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echodot, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Nintendo never makes high power consoles that’s not really their area. So I’d be surprised if this is true.

And what does PS5 equivalent graphics even mean? We just talking screen resolution or are we saying it can push the same poly count. I’d be prepared to accept it might get 1080p maybe 4k on a good day, but that’ll only be on low poly assets.

Psythik, (edited )

Both the N64 and the GameCube were built and marketed with performance in mind (especially the N64). Maybe you’re just too young to remember the ads.

Sethayy,

Today’s consoles are pretty different than the n64 or GameCube tho

km3k,

yeah, Project Reality

Phen,

Apparently the ps5 comparison is because they ran the same tech demo that the ps5 did 2 years ago. But that doesn’t really mean anything. At this point Nintendo may still be working with a wide range of specs on prototypes before finalizing a decision about what the console will be.

WintLizard, w Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince details new battle and monster recruiting systems
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I’ve never played a monsters game but I am a huge DQ fan so I am very excited for this one. I wonder if you can catch big name bad guys like Zoma.

samus12345, w Super Mario Bros. Wonder Fire flower
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If the Toads have no problem with Mario literally consuming one of their heads as a power up, why would the flowers?

Xylight,
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Good point.

Cyberwitch_7493, w Nintendo’s Genius Plan To Sell More Switches Depends On Kids Fighting

I mean honestly, I wouldn’t give my kid a switch, not unless it was hacked. Have you SEEN how pushy Nintendo is for users to spend money on subscriptions and new eshop games?

philomory,

Or you could just… disable the eshop on a regular, unmodded switch through parental controls? I mean, nothing against modding but you hardly need a modded switch to block “pushy” sales and subscriptions.

anyhow2503,

Honestly, I have not. That might be because I haven’t clicked on that notifications button since I bought the thing. I’d be way more worried about a smartphone.

Hazdaz, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I don’t doubt it… Nintendo is always years behind.

The PS5 came out in 2020 and this Switch2 is probably a year away. So that would make their hardware be roughly 4 years old in terms of power. Plus if this is roughly the size of the current Switch, it won’t be pushing more than HD-resolutions (current Switch is only a 720 display), so getting PS5-level graphics on a 1080 screen these days is not particularly complicated or expensive.

Vathsade,

Current switch does 1080 docked already , so while I hope it’ll have at least 4k menus and 4k light games, I’d settled for 1080 again with some sorta more advanced AA for first party games

Hazdaz,

it’s screen is 720. I would not expect Nintendo to go above 1080 on the screen and maybe output a scaled-up 4K when docked.

Psyduck_world,

God of war 2016 PS 4 original setting at 720p on steam deck is about 30 fps. On ROG Ally afew frames less if you run it at 15 watts, at 45 watts Ally can probably do 720p at 50ish fps but less than an hour of battery. Ally is the top of line 2023 AMD tech apu and cost $700. Mobile technology is amazing right now, but it’s just not at a level where it can do 3 years old desktop graphics at a reasonable cost/power consumption.

hydrashok, w Video message from Shigeru Miyamoto and Charles Martinet regarding the change of Mario’s voice actor, announced on 21/08.

Had to happen sometime. Sad to see it come, but Charles has had a hell of a run. He will continue to be the template for Mario, Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi for the rest of the characters’ existence.

Very much, in my mind, like any new Looney Tunes voice actors are just trying to sound like Mel Blanc.

It’ll be great to hear Charles’ influence for years to come, even if he’s not doing (or doing less of) the performances anymore.

kadu,
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He basically invented Luigi’s personality on the fly.

Luigi was just green Mario, right until they put Martinet with a live 3D face animation rig at an event and “talk to Luigi!” was one of the options.

He then came up with Luigi as the slightly cowardly, not as confident, but good spirited and kind, companion to Mario. The voice tone, the mannerisms, he just made it all up and Nintendo loved it.

Without that, no Luigi’s Mansion and the green Mario dude would still have no personality.

Wooster,
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Nah. Luigi had a personality prior to the 3D era. His modern portrayal is, at bare minimum, inspired by the Super Mario Adventure comics, where he was portrayed as the more cowardly of the two brothers. And that’s not even looking into things like the Super Show, which created Toad’s modern voice or the CYOA novels.

He put a voice to that persona, but he didn’t create it whole cloth.

kadu,
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Martinet himself explains how he made up the “cowardly” trait because at first, when people asked about Luigi, his way of dealing with it was replying that “my brother is too shy! Too scared! He can’t show up”.

CarlsIII, (edited ) w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

Like WWE?

alienanimals, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

I sure wish journalism would “evolve” so that every article wasn’t some brain dead take.

SgtAStrawberry,

Well they used to be that way so maybe journalism is in more need of devolving.

Graphine, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I find this hard to believe. At this point Switch 2 “rumors” have just been used for clickbait now.

I think they’re working on it but it won’t be for awhile.

TPushic,
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@Graphine @nintendo If they work on it too long it’ll be obsolete upon release

paultimate14,

Nintendo is of course famous for never releasing obsolete hardware

Kolanaki,
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Judging from this article, it’s already obsolete.

echodot,

As per for Nintendo

Nioxic, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Compared to does not mean equal to… lol

ZoopZeZoop,

True, but it does suggest they are in the same league. Not saying it is, but able to be compared suggests that it may be as good in some aspects.

Patches,

I compared my wealth to Bill Gates and turns out he makes more money just existing for 1 minute than I will make in my entire life. But we are comparable.

kattenluik,

You are comparable, and what they said was not anywhere near over the top or outrageous.

Your disbelief in a product existing and making a joke out of what otherwise would be a proper conversation is honestly very sad.

legion,
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And even if some prototype device is, that doesn’t mean the production device will be, once things like heat and power usage have to really be accounted for.

conciselyverbose,

It doesn't even matter a lot if it does have really good graphics capability. Nvidia is good at that (though whether they'd price that where Nintendo wants is questionable). The question is what Nvidia can give in a CPU, because the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

eltimablo,

the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

No it's not

conciselyverbose,

That is not a gaming capable chip. It is a server chip where the entire value proposition is the core count and connectivity.

Nvidia doesn't make anything and hasn't shown any capability to make anything that isn't a massive liability for gaming.

eltimablo,

There's no such thing as a "gaming chip" when it comes to CPUs. Are you trying to tell me that you can't plug a GPU into the PCIe slot of an Ampere Altra? Do you honestly believe that a game compiled for ARM magically won't run on a server chip due to some kind of hardware block that detects games and says "nope, not gonna run that?"

Also, Nvidia makes the processor in the Nintendo Switch, and I linked chips from two other manufacturers in my comment.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

There are performance traits you have to have to be even in the vicinity of functional for gaming, and they're the opposite of what you need for a server. Yes, I'm saying that if you put a gaming GPU into any of those chips, the performance would be fucking terrible. You need fast clocks and IPC with low latency, not lots of cores and high bandwidth. High "Performance per core" in terms of server parts does not mean that it can do anywhere close to the same work per core a consumer, gaming focused chip can do. The design parameters are completely different.

The processor in the Switch chip is the reason the Switch has such a limited AAA library. It's not mediocre. It's not serviceable. It's fucking terrible.

sebinspace,

Exactly. Oranges are comparable to apples, doesn’t mean they share much in common

Taringano,

Honestly the swtcih is so far off in performance that if the new switch performs like the ps4 it’s already a win.

TowerofPimps, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
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Doubt.

Wussy, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

Breaking news: The company that created the Nintendo Entertainment System and Super Nintendo Entertainment System is evolving into an entertainment company!

arefx,

Funny, but I think he means they want to take on the likes of Disney. Not necessarily be known for movies; but games, movies, shows, maybe even theme parks.

If any company has the ability to do it, it’s Nintendo.

cryptiod137,

Don’t they effectively do all of those things already? Maybe they have someone else produce or run them, but they already seem to make all of those.

DrPop, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

Evolving? They’ve always been an entertainment focused company. They’ve been around for ages, and got their start making cards, then later electronic games and toys. Nintendo is basically Hasbro.

MonkCanatella, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

lol, 3 years into the current gen and switch 2 only competes. Seriously

maxprime,

Aside from possibly the N64 and GameCube, Nintendo has never tried to push technology in that way.

xyzzy, (edited )

And it’s been true since the very first console. The Master System was more powerful than the NES, and the Genesis/Mega Drive was more powerful than the Super NES (arguably; the Sega CPU was far more powerful than Nintendo’s). Same is true for its portables.

They’ve always prioritized per-unit margins. It’s a conservative approach, but it means profit on every console sold.

So there’s a 0% chance this console is actually as powerful as a PS5. However, there’s a good chance there are hardware and software techniques being used to upscale a lower resolution image.

dinckelman, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

We all get what that means, and don’t think otherwise for a minute. It’ll be unfinished 70€ titles, requiring 3 30€ dlcs to feel mostly complete, requiring a paid 15€ subscription on top of that. We’ve seen this a dozen times too many by now. Nintendo are just always late to everything

HobbitFoot,

Or it just means Nintendo isn’t going to rely on video games for growth.

The idea of paying anything for video games is already going away, with free to play games doing well in the youth market. And while the Switch is their best selling console, it is effectively a tablet with Bluetooth controllers and standard hardware. I don’t see Nintendo being able to maintain selling hardware after this next generation.

But Nintendo has a lot of IP that it hasn’t really tapped outside of video games. I expect that to change.

Jabbawacky,

No, as that’s fully against their philosophy. They ship complete games, on time, with limited if any bugs and with no microtransactions and large DLC expansions for most games.

He is clearly talking about their expansion into film, theme parks and other entertainment avenues other than games consoles or anything really done prior (Pokémon movies are TPC, rather than Nintendo).

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