It was an unfortunate reminder that Konami clearly doesn't see Silent Hill 2 (or any of its beloved properties, really) with the same eyes that its audience has seen it for years.
The fact that they thought that this is an appropriate level of quality for what is considered by many to be either the best or at least one of the best horror games of all time is incredibly disappointing, but ultimately not surprising. My reaction to this this has been mostly "sigh, of course".
I've seen some people throw blame in Bloober's direction, but the responsability of choosing a developer that was not way over their head with the project lays on Konami, as does the responsability of providing enough time and resources for the project.
Konami clearly wants to have their cake and eat it by intending to get the results that Capcom has gotten out of their RE revival while putting one third of the effort and the care, and at this point all I can say is that I hope it doesn't work out for them.
It really sucks when the owner of the thing is the one that cares the least about it, what else can you say really.
It’s definitely disappointing. Everything about this trailer looks serviceable, but it’s not the type of quality I expect when I hear “PS5 remake”. The lighting looks good… Sometimes… Most of the trailer looked like a PS3 game, especially in terms of animations and janky combat.
It doesn’t help that there’s been a huge resurgence of amazing survival horror games. The RE4 remake is awesome, and I played Dead Space and Alan Wake 2 last year and they were amazing. I don’t think the world needs an okay remake when there are too many good options already.
I was kind of wondering what everyone was upset about. Now, I was never a big gamer. I’ve always been a sort of edge-of-the-field game player. In my adult life (I grew up with Nintendo, then N64, then Xbox 360, and in the past couple years got an Xbox…S? Apparently whichever is the cheaper/shittier one. Because I wanted to try the resident evil 4 remake and I couldn’t get it because I needed the OTHER X|S version. Dumb.), I’ve really only played GTA IV, fifa, and then rdr2. I love all of those games and still replay them when I want to game.
So, that’s where I’m coming from. But watching this trailer, I just thought it looked maybe a little stiff and the graphics just okay—but with all the remakes and everything, are they looking better than rdr2? That’s one of the—no, scratch that. That’s the best looking game I’ve ever played. When I first started playing it last year, I was literally playing for hours and hours because it felt like…I was actually out in nature. I got lost in that game. Loved it. Still love it. My favorite game, for sure. Even though I’ve been playing fifa for a long time with friends.
Where am I even going with this at this point. I guess the question is how much better have games gotten since rdr2? What is the standard of quality for these remakes? I really loved The Suffering back on 360. That would be a cool remake.
Do you think it’s worth upgrading to a PS5 or an Xbox…x…or s…whichever is the higher quality one that would allow me to play RE4. Or at this point should I just wait for the next gen so I can play the NEW gta when it comes out next year? I’m basically a n00b and the gaming world is so complex these days. I love horror games and stuff like that, so how worth it is the new RE4?
It really depends on what you’re looking for. Is it worth upgrading for the new graphics? Maybe not, but if you have a lot of games you’d like to play on them then it’s totally worth the upgrade. RE4 is really awesome, but I’d just suggest looking at reviews on youtube and seeing if it’s worth getting.
If you do pick one up I suggest getting Alan Wake 2 as well, the horror atmosphere and graphics are amazing.
Most of the trailer looked like a PS3 game, especially in terms of animations and janky combat.
Honestly, combat and animation wise, I'd say that suggesting the idea that it is comparable to PS3 era games actually does a disservice to many of the games of that era (TLoU, Dead Space Series, the REs of that era, etc etc).
I might even go as far as saying that in some aspects it may even be outdone by the Silent Hill games of that era, Homecoming and Downpour, but that is probably reaching a tad too much.
I have ~140 hours on the first game, but I’m not particularly interested in most of the content shown in this trailer. I find Kojima’s writing to be eye-rolling horrendous and cringe-worthy (I still remember this quote from the first game: “I’m fragile but not that fragile” HUH). That being said, I’m looking forward to this sequel because of the possibility of new gameplay mechanics (like that flood that wrecked the ramp). I’m excited about new weapons, vehicles, enemies and mechs! I wish the trailer has more of that instead.
Not really sure how you can roll your eyes at the dialogue from the trailer, but not from Death Stranding 1 or the Metal Gear games. This isn’t any more ridiculous than any other game he’s made.
Edit: for the record, I very much enjoy kojima games. I liked MGS games and Death Stranding 1. But there is no denying that his games are all weird as absolute fuck.
I personally don’t care a lot about Kojima’s games but I still think it’s absolutely great he gets to make whatever he makes because he is a unique voice in gaming! In a sea of games as a service, mindless franchise milking and countless copycats someone like him is needed to make outlandish stuff, whether I like the games or not. Tons of people do and that’s great!
Shadow is a cool character. Gotta wonder if they are going to be as daring about this one as they were in the Shadow game, but I see no guns so probably not.
I’d honestly be happier with no guns. Not sure if that was their greatest move, in their effort to make him ‘edgier’. He was perfect in SA2 and Sonic Heroes.
Sonic Adventure 2 is great but it hurts me every time someone says how good Sonic Heroes was. Sonic Heroes was the most paper-thin every character has been in the 3D era. They just took a couple stereotypical quotes for each character and called it a day. The scant little they did with Shadow was only the barest setup for Shadow the Hedgehog.
Shadow the Hedgehog was overly edgy but at least they tried to do some character exploration and what-ifs. I got some chuckles from how over the top the Dark paths went but some routes and the True ending seemed to fit his actual character just fine.
Character-wise I'd say Sonic Battle was one of the best entries, but the gameplay had nothing to do with anything Sonic.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I enjoyed Heroes for what it was.
I agree that Sonic Battle was one of, if not the best entries for character building. And SB is, in fact, my all-time favourite Sonic game. Breaks me that I may never see a sequel / reboot, and get to relive Emerl’s story.
It’s going to be interesting to see if this is more about the chase, and getting the other to admit their feelings, or contending with the challenges of a long term hedgehog relationship in a world that still exhibits homophobia.
Having not played the first game at all, this trailer looks even more ridiculous (in a bad way) than the first one did. The graphics certainly look amazing though.
I got burnt out on the first one. Pretty setting and some neat ideas aside, I do wonder how many people would be interested in a sequel to this. It wasn’t exactly gripping in story or gameplay to begin with. Though I’m happy it was made, it was something unique at least.
Man, I was looking forward to this and Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2, but after seeing both gameplay trailers today, I'm just... not anymore. Like wtf is this.
Kojima is the JJ Abrams equivalent in the game industry. Great visual execution, but absolutely horrendous story-telling that will make you wish were dumb as a piece of loaf so as to not notice it.
When Kojima made a comment that he didn’t fully understand the story himself… It sort of all made sense. It’s just connotations mashed together, beach, strand, hair, cord… A big pile of nothing to create intrigue with no payout, no mystery to reveal, just more layers of confusion. Sort of like Lost. I’m sure JJ and Kojima would get along great.
But oh boy are some of those moment exceptionally beautiful and spectacular in all its illogical absurdity. Mads Mikkelsen’s acting. Got goosebumps. But then it falls apart by revealing flaws through the fourth wall. Like did… part of this mystery hinge on the double meaning of words? Whatever the fuck was going on, it’s a little bit silly for synonyms to play an important part.
Kojima has a lot of other great tastes. Using music to create moments of excellent cinematography. Motion capture and character designs have always been fantastic. There are moments in Death Stranding that made me have to put down the controller and just. Enjoy. The same goes with Metal Gear games I grew up with. The flower field in MGS3, and forcing you to pull the trigger… The attention to detail on so many gameplay mechanics. It’s just brilliant. But, the illogical and meaningless complexity for the story and world building? That part has always been the weakest part and left a bad taste. In MGS it was confusing enough, but it had a certain charm. In DS, puuh, it’s rough.
JJ and Kojima should have nothing to do with writing storylines and plots. Imagine how much brilliant stuff we would be left with? And I never understood why. In JJs case, I suspect it’s simply decent return on investment for those who fund the movies. But from a craftsmanship perspective, it’s weird. The culmantion of work from hundreds of artists, all masters in their respective fields, and it shows, yet, it comes together to tell a story, surrounding a plot that a 14-year old might put together.
Abrams writes mystery box stories where everything hinges on resolving the box and ends up with an ultimately lackluster resolution.
Kojima stories are confusing webs within webs throughout. They exist on theme and vibe, while being simultaneously incredibly well researched, intentionally absurd, and with ill advised choices that surely mean something when they were made.
Since this entire thread is just people shitting on the first game i figured id be a little different and say something good about the game. I very much liked the first one. Super weird but intriguing story super well acted awesome visuals and stunning graphics. If you like weird unique sifi stories you’ll enjoy it. Its a slow relaxing game with some pretty intense stealth. I can’t wait for the second one. Tho i do wish kojima would move on and make something more akin to metal gear plus death standing. His recent announcement the other day seems to confirm he will be doing that game after ds 2.
For me at least, the first part was an absolute work of art. Apart from the crazy, not always entirely comprehensible story, it was simply beautiful. I’ll never forget the moment when I climbed through the vast landscapes for the first time and suddenly heard this phenomenal soundtrack. The amount of multiplayer influence was also just right; you got the impression that someone had been here before, but you never met anyone. Wonderful.
Didn’t expect a second part to be released, what a pleasant surprise!
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