OK. Never played SC so honest question here; What is wrong if the game is technically not complete? I mean the way I thought is that this means that it keeps evolving and expanding so new content and features become available as the game development progresses. What am I missing? Is this a similar situation to the Eve Online BitterVets?
They consistently make promises for things that will exist in the future, which then takes them years beyond their expected timeframe to achieve, or just never do them because some other past promise or promise they will make later makes an original promise either totally unworkable or wildly different.
So, so many missed deadlines, which uh, actually were just aspirational.
And… this is a game that sells you ships, gear, for hundreds, thousands or even tens of thousands of real world dollars.
Some crazy promise will be made and oh, turns out that means we have to rework something like half the game’s systems to support that, but also they’re adding new content constantly that is always in some limbo state between following the old system’s paradigms and attempting to follow the new system’s paradigm.
What you end up with is a constant state of everything being a bit broken, and a lot of stuff being completely broken.
Its less like a released game getting DLCs and more like an alpha test that just never ends.
Which, again, costs hundreds or thousands of dollars.
SC is a scam. They sell ships for real money that only half work. The game is riddled with bugs, quests don’t complete. Users state is regularly wiped so there’s no point on progressing in it and instead of finishing the game they ask players for much more money to work on tiny niche technical problems that sound super important on presentations but don’t move the needle even a little bit towards a finished game. At best, it is video game history most expensive physics toy. In reality, when you scrutinize their finances executives have pocketed most of the money raised and devs have been paid poor wages and overworked to a constantly moving target. They have never finished a single roadmap item, but they have announced to fanfare at least 5 different development roadmaps that are the very definition of scope creep. Lots of announcements but never a release. Any competent studio would’ve delivered at least three completed games in the same timeframe for that amount of money. They’re an online asset store that sometimes let’s you fiddle with the digital models, not a video game.
It was kickstarted a decade ago with release dates which they’ve never kept thanks to a constant modification of what a release looks like - namely splitting the MMO-like Star Citizen out from the single-player blockbuster Squadron 42 - as well as scope bloat. A lot of people originally kickstarted the game (mostly for what we now call Squadron 42 + some multiplayer thing) but now a decade on, the MMO-like Star Citizen is seemingly the priority project and most of the people who are currently funding the game are primarily interested in that.
After hundreds of millions of dollars of funding, it seems clear that Squadron 42 in particular is in development hell as it still can’t seem to make it to market. Star Citizen, while playable, teeters back and forth from basically unplayable to playable and all “progress” is subject to wipes.
Just some context: from 2017 until last year they had the majority of the development staff working on SQ42, which they declared feature complete last year and now we have a planned release of 2026. Most of the development staff has been moved back to Star Citizen which is finally seeing a lot of tech come online that was promised years ago. Definitely has a ton of scope creep, and it’ll probably never have an official release, but it’s definitely a cool tech demo that you can play.
Long story short, they severely fail to deliver on their promises and also mismanaged their development incentives so that they are not financially interested to ever release, or even make the game fully playable.
Instead of focussing on getting the core of the game finished and THEN expanding it they do it the other way around.
For example the mining loop now is broken again, people bought mining ships and vehicles with $$ and they are completely unusable. Not to mention all the bugs and instability. I hope they succeed but right now things are not pointing to something enjoyable within the foreseeable future at all.
Don’t listen anyone here, positive or negative. Try the next free fly and see for yourself. Too many feelings for an honest answer.
But here’s my 2 cents anyway, ha ha: I enjoy it, they are pushing out regular massive updates that make it more and more fun every quarter. They grew a studio from 8 people to over 1000, which takes years to do, so complaints that they have taken 10 years of full scale development are incorrect. Some people don’t like the idea it may never be the full game they set out to make, which is fair, it’s possibly the most ambitious game to date. But it’s being made in good faith, reports of a scam are about as reliable as moon landing conspiracy theories for many of the same reasons. In the meantime, what they do have is already a lot of fun. You only need to spend $50 to get in, people spending more are doing so voluntarily and generally without regrets. They have more players and revenue every year than the year before, this wouldn’t happen if it wasn’t already a fun game for many.
Gameplay is like a second life in space. It’s very spaceship centric, but there’s lots to do besides pilot. It’s slow paced, the design does prefer immersion over convenience a lot of the time.
If you like big, slow (with moments of high intensity), immersive, cinematic games, or if you like sci fi it’s definitely worth a try. Lone wolf play is doable, but taking a role on a crew is more fun (at least for me).
This is what I'm worried about. I love Alan Wake 1 & 2 and Control, and I'm looking forward to the latter's sequel, but I just keep thinking, how far can this go before it's either way out in left field or rehashing the same plot points?
I don’t get that at all. Elden Ring was already painfully long. If you tried to do everything you ended up super OP. It became an absolute slug to get through. It was super repetitive. I can’t imagine anything they could add with a DLC that could improve that. I don’t get the hype for the DLC.
In majority of other games it would be a valid scaling complaint. Yes you don’t need to level, but it’s part of the game as well, it should be implemented correctly so everyone can enjoy all parts of the game.
On the contrary, it’s precisely because you can level at your own needed pace, ie go off and grind if you can’t beat a part of the game, or keep going if you over-level, that makes it more enjoyable for more people.
Exactly, that’s why people can set their own difficulty by leveling as they please. I’m not insinuating that choice is bad, I’m stating that the flexible system in ER accounts for player preference.
… so you have to be good enough at the game first, to be able to level up, to make the game easier. What a great system!…. You’re suggesting grinding to make the game easier, peoples biggest complaints about JRPGS….
The game lacks a difficulty option, that’s another valid complaint, but didn’t fit their vision.
The game isn’t hard to level up, there are numerous no-issue, fast grinding spots. It doesn’t take hours to level, it takes going to a quick position, swinging your weapon a few times, and then leveling up.
The lack of a difficulty option is a good thing, it prevents elitism and allows the game to be properly balanced without resorting to artificial difficulty increases like blanket damage changes.
All in all, I don’t see what your issue is. Are you arguing that ER shouldn’t have leveling at the pace the player chooses, and instead increases in level based on what area you have unlocked, or something?
Theres a comment that responded to me just saying they beat it at level 1.
It makes it worse lmfao.
The issue is scaling. You can’t do all the content in the game without being massively over leveled or have to intently go out of your to do stuff to make it fun. It’s a major issue with the game, I know you’re ignoring it, but it’s a valid complaint mate.
Yes, it prevents elitism. If you have difficulty sliders, rather than accessibility options, in a game known for difficulty, you will have endless numbers of elitists claiming only the hardest difficulty is valid.
Rather than having difficulty options, allow players to tailor the difficulty to their own preferences via leveling at their leisure.
You still haven’t explained what you actually want.
You did not. “Scaling” already exists in the game. What change to scaling do you want to make? Have the content match your level, regardless of location? That has numerous issues, not the least of which being a complete removal of player choice with regards to difficulty, or the absolute removal of any sense of progression.
Playing at level 1 vs a difficulty slider is a flexible choice. If there’s a difficulty slider, unless you have literally hundreds of options, you cannot fine tune difficulty. If you automatically level, you cannot maintain your chosen difficulty and match it to what you want.
You just don’t understand game design, that’s not my problem.
All there is here is a difference in perspectives on what good design should be.
You agree with Elden Rings marketing and I don’t since there’s other games that do things differently but better too. Different strokes for different folks.
But hey, insult me, that’ll make people want to accept your opinion lmfao.
You threw insults first, you said I fell for the marketing, rather than acknowledging that I had a different opinion.
You still never answered what you actually want, just a vague “scaling” desire despite the game already having scaling, and there being countless types and formulas for scaling. We can’t even discuss anything if you won’t say what you think can do it better, lol.
I directly asked you what you wanted. You said “scaling,” that’s nothing without specifying what you actually mean. That’s like saying “sword” would fix Elden Ring, lol.
You clearly don’t want to actually talk, just virtue signal.
Opposite for me completely. I spent 120hrs on it and it flew by completely, I was sad when it ended and found I got no satisfaction from ng+ and also, couldn’t bring myself to do a raw ng again with exploration of everything.
So new content is precisely what would entice me back to this and what I want.
I adored the game and also spent a little over 120h in it, but it’s commonly accepted that past the capital, the game kind of lose its pacing and starts iterating on the same ideas, just in different settings.
Same i only quit because i had tried every weapon, incantation, and spell over like 5 different characters using just about every build i could imagine enjoying
If you did all the content you would probably be max at everything by the time you finish a playthrough unless you lose lots of souls. Would there be an enemy or boss that would be significant hurdle for content to be fun at that point? Or would you intentionally need to do stuff to make it fun.
Because of the diminishing returns you would actually also hit that point far earlier than max level as well.
It’s bad though because it has too much stuff to do but in a way that makes it so there’s nothing to do at the same time. Lazy lazy Miyazaki. Had more fun with Tears of the Kingdom.
Idk what you’re on about, I platinum’d the game and I’m only RL200 in NG+3. RL200 is enough for a decently strong (but not OP at NG+3) battle mage class. I stopped leveling after hitting 200 at the end of my NG+2 playthrough and plan to play the DLC after NG+3 at the same RL.
It’s not too much to ask that a Soulsborne enthusiast who’s replayed the game multiple times and put in over 150hrs just decide when enough is enough regarding leveling. It’s been that way since Demon Souls. It’s an intentional part of the game design.
Why would you expect the game “scale” and retain its difficulty when you are 99 in every single stat? That’s ridiculous.
Why are you even here, the way you’ve said things clearly shows you havent played or if you had you probably dropped it because you couldnt clear the first boss.
What are you even talking about, do you understand the concept of new game plus? I cleared all content in a single playthrough at RL150 after 100 hours, NG+ is required to get all endings and platinum the game just like most RPGs.
Idk if things are different for play station, but on xbox i got all endings on my first playthrough with some cloud storage shit. Ive been waiting forever to play the dlc on my ng+.
Yeah, I think if you pay attention you can do it in a single playthrough, I went through blind the first time and didn’t start paying attention to guides until post game, so I’d missed a couple side quests and trophies. And then even paying attention on NG+ I missed one, so here I am at three playthroughs waiting for DLC.
Not even close. I 100%'d the game and you don't get anywhere close to max everything. Plus, my point was that max everything actually doesn't make a huge difference because you get diminishing returns from each stat. For example a 70 in a stat vs a 99 in a stat is almost nothing.
You control when you gain stats. You don’t have to level up. You can literally do 100% of the content and stay a level 1 Wretch the entire time. It’s one of the most common challenge runs.
ER did have a lot of reused assets and bosses in the tons of little dungeons. Those things were only interesting for the unique puzzles they sometimes had.
I have to expect the expansion will have all new content without much reuse. They've had as long as they need to make whatever they want. And traditionally Fromsoft expansions tend to be well received.
The games making over a million are the ones who can afford the new rates. This is so regressive. It should get more expensive as your sales go up, not down. Small devs should be charged less than big studios
The GPU has less than 10% the CUDA cores of a 4090, a GPU that can’t hit 120 FPS in most modern games @4K without DLSS. No way in hell will the Switch 2 hit 120 FPS @1080p, not without some extreme DLSS upscaling and some serious graphical compromises… Proper RT is completely out of the question.
This thing won’t even be able to keep up with the PS5, a 5 year old console. It will compete with the Steam Deck, however.
That said, I miss the days when Nintendo cared about graphics. But at this point it’s been over 25 years since those days. That’s almost as long as it’s been since I last enjoyed a Mario or Zelda game. Between all this and the fact that they sue their fans, I am so done with Nintendo. I feel like I’ve outgrown them anyway.
Hello, is this your first time finding out consoles blatantly lie about 4k since console gamers have no understanding how 4k is impossible to run with the best hardware.
Can we out spoiler tags on things that make me, someone who isn’t 30 yet, feel downright ancient please? It’s too early to be facing my mortality like that
I get the inherent value people attach to it, but after having it several times (I’d have it for a month or two and then drop it for like, a year), I would never go back to it even if it still seemed like a good deal.
For an app developed by Microsoft and working on a PC, it has some awful pathing, and I lost saves and had issues launching games on multiple occasions. Tried many fixes and it never worked out. Some games would work for me, others wouldn’t. So for me, since it felt like a toss up to get a game to work, it was pointless.
it WAS a good deal early on. Also when they introduced their partnership with RIOT and it would allow you to unlock all the characters in LoL that was a very good deal if you were a League player.
but the price increases and what have you…meh. it was good to get access to some games and not have to pay full retail for them. I’m thankful I didn’t pay full price for Starfield and just played it on gamepass but there would be months on end where there was nothing on there worth playing.
Probably this. TV does this all the time. There is not much actually filmed in UHD/12G, except maybe Premier League, F1 and other major sporting events.
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