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Sterile_Technique, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games
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capt_wolf,
Weirdfish, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games

When I bought the switch I called it my $500 zelda machine.

I also have factorio now.

If a new mario, zelda, or factorio is available on switch 2, I’ll buy one.

adarza,

one summer back in ‘the day’ i was staying at a house that had a snes. guess what the one and only game we played all that summer was.

Sturgist,
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Factorio?

CarbonatedPastaSauce,

I am cringing in horror at how poorly my factories would run on a Switch. Do you find playing it to be an acceptable experience?

Weirdfish,

It’s the only platform I have to play it on, and switch doesn’t support the new space age expansion.

It did get many of the 2.0 updates, like the extended belt reader, free circuit wires, and all inserters are filters.

As far as acceptable, I love it. I’m sure I can’t build the crazy 10k science per minute monstrosities I’ve seen on youtube, but I’ve never really run into an lag issues with the bases I’ve built.

Zedstrian,

I imagine it’ll run much better on the Switch 2, given how well it runs on my Steam Deck, though I imagine that it would take a lot of adjustment to get used to using joystick controls versus the touchpad controls of the Steam Deck. Perhaps however the new ‘mouse-like controls’ work will be more helpful in that regard, but I can’t imagine even that would match the precision of a trackpad.

Don’t intend on supporting Nintendo’s crazy price increases myself, and will only get a Switch 2 if a way to hardware mod it becomes available, but I think it’s a bit ironic that the one non-first party game someone would specifically want to play on the Switch is also the one that not only never goes on sale, but also got a price increase.

CarbonatedPastaSauce,

And even with the increase it’s still a freakin’ bargain. Such a good game!

IHeartBadCode, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games
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I guess I don't play Mario then. It's a pretty simple concept.

Eldritch,

I got a Wii for Christmas years ago. Never used it much. The last Nintendo console I bought was a game cube. You can easily live without Nintendo. They’re definitely decent games. Just not for that price.

samus12345,

They do fill a “good for all ages” niche that not many other games do nowadays. Which makes the exorbitant pricing especially strange.

huquad,

Its much better than that. There’s plenty of Mario content to emulate.

ImplyingImplications,

You underestimate how many people literally cannot stop themselves from playing Mario. I’d hope it’s mostly children begging their parents, but I have a feeling there’s a decent amount of 30 year olds with disposable income and zero impulse control in there.

thermal_shock,

I introduced mine to undertale and other stuff like cuphead, old school sonic games and SNES emulators. We dont care about latest Mario’s, but he does have odyssey.

nickhammes,

The Switch was the generation where I really started to have adult money, and while a lot of the games I got were lower-priced indie titles, I did get pretty much all of the big 1st party titles.

There’s a reasonable chance I get a Switch 2, but I’m not gonna be buying a lot of games over $70, and the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off. I suspect I’ll be buying fewer games this generation, and I’m okay with that.

samus12345,

the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off

Which is almost never.

nickhammes,

It’s uncommon, absolutely. But I bought Super Mario Odyssey around the third time I got an alert that it was on sale, for $50 or so. This took a couple years, so it’s reasonably rare, but if the future looks like the past, it will happen

samus12345,

The fact that you have to have alerts to be able to get the games at a discount is pretty bad, but you’re doing it the right way!

Zahille7,

Streamers.

Streamers and YouTubers are mostly who I blame for this. They are influencers who showcase the games and it makes their fans want to buy it.

I can’t count how many times I’ve read online that so many people refuse to buy some game, then I go on YouTube and see like 5 YouTubers playing it day one, because they (or maybe even a fan) bought it.

Alk,
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I’m going to try very hard not to be, but I’m definitely the type of person you’re describing. That Nintendo direct had me drooling at the new Mario kart and donkey Kong games, and nothing hits like a zelda. Super mario wonder was a delight.

I only hope I can emulate this system relatively quickly. I am not a man of strong willpower.

FooBarrington,

That’s why I’m just not looking at these new games. It would be interesting to know how they’re tackling an “open world” Mario Kart! But I already know it’s too expensive for what I’ll get out of it, so taking a look will only be bad for me in the long run.

smort,
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Sounds like they’re doing a Forza Horizon kind of setup, where you drive around the open world to get from one structured race to another.

It’s kinda cool in that it keeps you in the world, but also annoying if you just wanna bang through races

Walican132,

Don’t feel bad for liking things. Your post kinda bums me out. Don’t let all this negative hype impact what will make you happy. If you can afford it. Do it. If you can’t then yeah don’t, but we as people are allowed to enjoy things.

Cethin,

Do you play many indie games? I feel like they’ve taken most of these formulas and really expanded on them, way more than Nintendo will do.

Alk,
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I do! Many of my favorites are indie games, I’d say more than not. But I guess there’s some things that you can’t do without a massive budget or many many years in development, because many nintendo core franchises just aren’t beat in quality in my opinion, at least for some entries.

big_slap,

me! I’m that guy pre ordering the switch as soon as I can lol

p03locke,
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Imagine going back to exclusivity with gaming consoles. PCs, and by extension, Steam won the console wars, and Nintendo is just trying its damnest to hold on to the last gasp of gaming exclusivity.

nuko147,
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Yeah, Switch 1 was a nice break from playing games on my PC.

solsangraal, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games

nope. they might be counting dumptruckloads of cash, but $0.00 of it will have come from me

Gibibit, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games
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If Mario is 100x more expensive than it needs to be, and there are millions of games that are just as good for a dime, you don’t buy Mario.

leave_it_blank,

Gamers, be it on console or PC, are dumb. Time has shown this over and over again. Horse armour, overpriced micro transactions, golden cage launchers, games as a service, the list goes on.

There will always be people who buy overpriced stuff or don’t think about what will be in ten years.

inclementimmigrant,

Yeah, just prepare for 100 dollar games across the board WITH all of the shitty monetization at this point, gamers are going to buy their circus, consequences be damned.

ampersandrew,
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I doubt it. Maybe Grand Theft Auto and Mario Kart can get away with charging more, but a lot of games asking $70 aren’t finding many customers willing to pay that price right now.

Kirp123,

Not to mention that other publishers will be watching this closely. If Nintendo gets away with it they will make this the new normal.

Sturgist, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games
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Except it’s totally not. Maybe the only 100% legal in every single country way, but not the only way by half. Fuck Nintendo. Fuck $80+ for a game. And fuck the switch 2.

TheDemonBuer,
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What other legal way is there that doesn’t require you to pay full price for the game?

Sturgist, (edited )
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In the case of them rereleasing old games without doing a remaster, in Canada at least, it is legal to have a digital back up for any game you own, and running it in an emulator is legal.

(Edit: I’m implying here that classic games are $80 on the Nintendo store, they are not. Still legal to have digital backups of modern games, still legal to emulate them as long as you own a physical copy.)

missingno,
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But then you still have to buy the game.

Sturgist, (edited )
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Sure, but it wouldn’t be $80 for most of them. (Edit: classic games on the Nintendo store are not $80, statement retracted. The general sentiment stands.)

Game deals is in New Westminster. Not necessarily great prices, but you can get Super Mario Cart for $60. And that’s a proper reseller, definitely get a better deal for a loose cart online…it doesn’t even have to be working. Get a better deal on one that isn’t functional, physical media degradation is one of the reasons why you’re able to keep digital copies.

missingno,
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I thought we were talking about Switch 2 games?

Sturgist, (edited )
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You think they’re going to sell repackaged SNES and N64 games for less than that?(Edit: incorrect, they are in fact less than $80) How bout switch 1 games? Those are “modern” so significantly cheaper, still legal to have a backup, still legal to emulate…and will be run in an emulator on the switch 2, no native backwards compatibility.
As for switch 2 games…just waiting for a while getting them 2nd hand means they’ll be cheaper, if you can actually get a hardcopy, and all the things I just said still apply…

missingno,
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They do not sell SNES and N64 games for $80, no. You know those are on the NSO app already, right?

Look, if you wanna be mad that Mario Kart World is $80, that's fair to be mad at. But you don't gotta make up misinformation.

Sturgist,
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Wasn’t intentionally spreading misinformation. Classic games, as you said, are cheaper. However switch 1 games are still $80. And my point about legally being able to emulate them stands.
I’ll retract my statements on the cost of legacy games here and go back through my previous comments and change them to reflect this.

missingno,
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Switch 1 games are not $80.

Sturgist,
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missingno,
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That's CAD, the article in the OP was about USD.

Sturgist,
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Just nitpicking now.

missingno,
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I can't tell if you were intentionally trying to mislead, but you know that this discourse was never about CAD, right? You know that the article is discussing USD, right?

It's not nitpicking to say that you've been misleading, whether intentionally or not.

Sturgist,
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Fair enough. Not doing it intentionally. Just a dumbfuck 🤷

Quicky,

Being in receipt of a gift.

But yes, that pricing is bullshit.

mesamunefire,

Buying it used? That used to be the norm. Or getting it at the library for free.

I believe Nintendo (and other industry leaders) are going to find out that their old games are the going to be the competition to their new games. If it’s too expensive and the old games are fun…there’s enough of a backlog for people to play.

That and indies.

warmaster,

Fuck everyone! You cool Gabe.

Lembot_0001, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games

‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’

Can someone rephrase this sentence? I don’t understand it.

bjoern_tantau,
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People will buy the Switch 2 and its games despite the high price because of the exclusive Nintendo games you can only play on that console.

dormedas,

Which is amusingly also what Xbox and PlayStation had before everything started coming to PC.

0x01,

If you can only play mario on the switch, even if it costs a lot of money, people will generally buy the switch and the game.

Implying that people really like mario and that people are generally expected to do whatever it takes to play it.

catloaf,

What part is unclear? You want to play Mario, you buy a Nintendo console.

CarbonatedPastaSauce,

He’s basically saying “suck it up, buttercup”. They think people are going to have no choice but pay these prices, with all the crazy shit going on. Maybe the Switch 2 will be successful, but most of my adult video gamer friends have already said they are going to pass. Only the ones that still have small kids are considering it.

ragebutt,

He means “there are a ton of children with parents who cannot enforce boundaries and there are a ton of grown people who will make poor financial decisions”. Nintendo will exploit both

Hopefully someone will exploit Nintendo with a paper clip again

Katana314, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

“We are also pleased to announce that, next year, we will be adding support for Gamecube games other than Super Smash Bros. Melee.” /s

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

i C EMUlation is the way to go, huh doug?

SuperSpecialNickname, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

That makes no sense to me, it has ZL button from what I’ve seen and that leads me to believe that it’s more like a pro controller

shinratdr, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says
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I doubt it. Why wouldn’t it just be a modified Pro controller like every other classic controller they’ve released. My guess is they are just managing expectations that it won’t be automatically usable with every game and mapped correctly.

I doubt I’ll ever connect this to my Switch 2, it’s going to be a replacement for the aging used WaveBirds that are hooked up to my Wii. With BlueRetro as the receiver, my guess is they’ll work day 1 or shortly after. For that, they’re awesome options.

JigglySackles, do games w Hades 2 will be a Nintendo Switch 2 console exclusive at launch

Boo you whore.

Glad I have a PC. Again.

SplashJackson, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

Lol pathetic

JcbAzPx, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

I guess I’ll just skip this generation like with the WiiU.

WolfLink, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

Huh? My actual GameCube controller works with all games on the Switch 1, although it doesn’t have all the buttons used by some games.

In particular it would be absurd if this new GameCube controller doesn’t work with Smash Ultimate.

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