This is an odd place to put this complaint. You clicked on a post about the Switch. Make a post about struggling with money and the discussion should focus on that instead.
And there are those who have it even harder than YOU. Everyone’s station in life is different. They are allowed to experience that.
If they are being insensitive to your concerns, then maybe they are not a good friend, but it sounds like you’re the one insensitive to their concerns. You can both have different concerns.
Also this is literally a Switch post in a gaming community amd you self selected this complaint in here. It’s telling.
And there are those who have it even harder than YOU. Everyone’s station in life is different. They are allowed to experience that.
I’ve never understand the logic of the people who espouse that line of thinking. Is only the one single person alive who has it the literal worst out of all the billions of living human beings allowed to feel bad, and everyone else is obliged to look at them and say “well it could technically be worse so I guess I’m not allowed to feel bad”?
I think you’re taking the meaning too far. It’s not that someone in a bad position is not allowed to feel bad. Rather, you have to consider the context in each case. A friend could be having a hard time, and even if your situation is technically worse, that doesn’t invalidate theirs. Because if you are willing to invalidate your friend’s difficulties, by that same token you could say your own are invalidated by those in an even worse position than yours.
Essentially I’m saying that everyone’s life is different and their worries are valid. Yes, perhaps it can be a touch tone-deaf for one person in a privileged position to complain about something relatively trivial. But for someone to assert that their situation is infinitely more important, and that their friend shouldn’t be allowed to complain about their own experiences… it reeks of envy and narcissism.
Noone is disagreeing with your concerns. They are disagreeing with your selfrighteous stance that your problems are the most important.
Using a switch gaming thread for self pity is some major narcissism red flag.
And if you go to Ukraine, Gaza, Sudan, Congo, people are worried about losing limbs, life and actual stage 1 Maslow survival. They probably envy your problems right now. They keep focused on shit that actually matters, like not dying.
Yeah, people care about different things related to their circumstances. That’s life.
I’m in Australia and my spouse has been on the waiting list for surgery for nearly 3 years - unable to walk more than 20 metres, unable to work. I’m the sole earner for our household.
So yeah I get there are differences in privilege. What I’m saying is that I envy people who don’t have to worry about their survival. I am not sorry I came off harsh about it, I am hurting right now and the responses I’ve received have only affirmed that I am right to be angry about it.
I get it and yeah, it does sound like you have other things to worry about. Not everyone does though. Most people who are hurt by the pricing of a video game console are probably in a better position where their more basic needs are already met.
I’ve also seen this specific news story on multiple websites and on TV in the past 24 hours. I’m sure it was shared on Lemmy in goodwill, but the original news story is most likely from a marketing press release that was made to get us talking about the cost of the Nintendo Switch 2.
If Nintendo don’t like buzz this story creates, they will adjust the pricing accordingly. We’re all just cogs in a machine. I’m just a part that couldn’t take the stress and made a noise.
I think the takeaway is “The Nintendo Switch 2 isn’t the thing you should be pissed about when these tariffs are going to cause a lot more problems for way more people.”
I’m sorry to hear about your situation - I’m in a somewhat similar financial position myself - but people are people, and in any income bracket there are things to be concerned about.
For you and me, it’s getting enough money to eat. For someone else, it is affording a Switch. For others, it’s the rise in the price of caviar forcing them into cheaper options.
Interestingly enough, all of this causes a significant amount of stress, and should you eventually get more money to spare, then after a brief euphoria you’ll have the same worries about Switch prices and other things you don’t seem to care about now.
In any case, I wish you all the best and hope you’ll find your way out of a situation. Hope your spouse gets the surgery and becomes able to work, you have your teeth, and everyone lives a bit happier going forward.
Then why are you getting angry while checking this sub and this post? Seems like you’re also getting worked up over it.
I’m sorry you’re in a bad situation, I get it, I’m also not in a situation where I could even buy the switch 2 even if I wanted to. But this is a big deal, the USA have fucked themselves up in the ass so hard that people outside of it might get hit with it. The price of the switch 2 is just one of the tips of this iceberg, the price of the PS5 is another, but in a short while the same thing will start to happen to lots of electronics, including hospital ones, which could increase the price for everyone depending on how this plays out.
Unfortunately for the rest of us the US is a BIG extremely consumer market, and if they get taken off the picture the profit margin decreases and prices need to hike to keep up.
Then why are you getting angry while checking this sub and this post? Seems like you’re also getting worked up over it.
To be clear - this story came up in my feed because I have an interest in gaming, I wasn’t checking the sub directly nor looking to talk about the Nintendo Switch 2.
If I didn’t have my life’s struggles right now, I would still not be excited by the Nintendo Switch 2 because I think it’s a lacklustre upgrade. I’ve never been one to buy on launch and I know I will be able to afford the Switch 2 one day, it’s just a matter of figuring out how to save up or waiting for the price to drop…
I shared a story of how one of my longest friends ignores real problems myself and another friend live through because he’s sorted for life’s problems and doesn’t have to worry about anything other than buying himself a Switch 2. I said I envy people who have it that easy - and people decided to start personally attacking me before I decided to share my side. I’ve done my best to only reply to genuine people and not react, and I think I’ve done alright in that regard…
As for the economic angle - I really think that while a technically correct example, the Nintendo Switch 2 just doesn’t hold up because it’s not a necessary device for life. The iPhone is a far better example of necessary goods, that will suffer greatly etc. As I mentioned in another comment, this Switch 2 price story has been blasted across multiple channels so it seems to me like a stitch up by a marketing company - increasing my sense of cynicism about people discussing console launch prices like they’re a vital life problem.
Sony: we’ll let the whole world pay astronomical amounts of money because it makes us rich! And if someone calls us on it, we’ll say it’s all because of the US!
Sony: we‘ll make it a little more expensive for everyone else, so no one feels left out
Let me fix that for you:
Sony: We‘ll make it a little more expensive for everyone else so our US sales don’t sink harder than a brick in a pond.
Companies really don’t care about people feeling left out. Company’s fear loss of sales. And that Trumps senseless antics by proxy of Sony make the PlayStation more expensive in my end of the world low key aggravates me, even if it’s only 50 bucks.
It would be worth it if it cost $50. Of course it never would cost $50.
It would be worth it if it cost the same as the first switch and if the games weren’t so expensive. There is a price point at which it is actually a good value product, but it’s so far beyond that price point now, even without tariffs.
I mean, hating on Nintendo is a good idea, but their games distinctly do not suck (at least most of them). They only suck in so far as you have to pay Nintendo in some form to legally acquire and play them.
Probably gamers put him in office in the first place. Steve Bannon capitalized on Gamergate and started latching on to it to recruit young white male gamers to the far right. Then these GamerGate proponents became manosphere followers.
This article about a gaming console was posted in a gaming community and you’re complaining that the term “gamers” is being used too much? Which term would you prefer, game enthusiasts?
The company has a price for the product, importers import the product at that price (sometimes the importer will also be the manufacturer, but that doesn’t actually make a difference as far as the calculation is concerned), then some official shows up and demands an import tariff, the important pays the tariff.
The shelf price is calculated as the total cost to the importer + a profit margin + sales tax. The tariff just gets lumped into the cost for the importer. Sales tax doesn’t make a distinction about how the price is arrived at.
Yes, technically correct and I am not disputing your points.
But, we all know the cost of the tariff the local importer will need to pay the local government will be passed on to local consumers.
My distinction and argument is if the government said “we will increase taxes on all products at your local grocery store by 145℅” people would flip. But when the wording become we will tariff “other countries” people forget who actually pays that tariff.
I don’t even want to imagine what is going to be the price for it here in Brazil. After the ps4 launched for nearly $2000 I haven’t even looked at any console retail prices here again.
Yeah I didn’t wanna pay that for a PS5. And the PS5 GPU alone is likely 5 times more power then what’s rumored to be in the switch 2… no way I’m paying that for a switch.
I wasn’t going to get one even if it was £20, but how? Trump set the tariffs. Obviously it’s going to cost a shitload more if there is a 145% tariff in the US.
I will buy a Switch 2 for however much it costs and when Nintendo first party titles start costing a whole week of work plus overtime I will still buy them. I will take out a mortgage for the eventual $49,999.99 console and $4,999.99 games. I will sell individual organs directly to Nintendo for whatever they want. I will singlehandedly commit genocide with my bare hands for Nintendo. I will gladly die for Nintendo. I live to serve my angel of salvation.
No offence to folks who like Mario games, but I don’t personally feel good playing them. They have a working class protagonist who works to maintain monarchic status quo (fighting evil kingdom to defend another kingdom). Also the games encourage violence toward turtles. Not cool in my books.
Anyway, jokes aside, I’m not getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, will probably get a Steam Deck before that.
Everyone knows Mario is cool as f–k. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.
Interested too see how piracy works for the switch 2. I will not buy one, as much as I enjoy Nintendo’s games I cannot stand their software experience (UI, shovelware) or their eco system…how many peripherals do you need!?
He’s 100% right. Gamers buy terrible overpriced content all the time. Basically all of my friends that play WoW bought a 90$ a mount because it has an auction house on it. That’s more than the actual game costs.
Let’s say Switch 2 emulation doesn’t get good for a few years (which is totally possible, depending on how well Nintendo locked it up). He’s saying that if it’s the only way to play NEW Mario games, people will buy it at $80. He’s right, millions will, but there are some like me who are huge Mario fans who will refuse to support such naked greed. Enough to matter to them? Probably not.
But I hope Switch 2 emulation does get to a playable state sooner rather than later.
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