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dreadbeef, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

Linux doesnt have games that install kernel-level spyware under the guise of anti-cheat. Hopefully never will, but I don’t underestimate gamers who love think spyware is a good idea. Stay away from linux if you want kernel anti cheat please, its ruining computers

ohshit604,
@ohshit604@sh.itjust.works avatar

Breaking News:

This just in new game requires sudoers access to play!

dreadbeef,

What’s hilarious is that is par the course on windows to run Steam as an admin. In fact that fixes a ton of bugs for people, so any executable the steam process spawns, like game executables, has admin rights as well.

Colonel_Panic,

You are not in the sudoers file, this incident WILL BE REPORTED. ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ

atcorebcor,

I’m confused, first you say that Linux doesn’t have anti-cheat, and then you say you should stay away from Linux if you want anti cheat.

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Kernel level anticheat. There’s very effective anticheat that is not kernel level and therefore works fine on Linux.

practical-tips.com/…/what-are-kernel-level-anti-c…

atcorebcor,

Ah thanks!

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

No worries buddy 👍

dellish, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

That’s great and all but the two things that hold me back from going 100% Linux are kernel-level anticheat, and lack of graphics card acceleration in virtual environments. Once we have those I’ll be happy.

Visual Basic added to Libre Office would be really nice too, but I get that it’s not particularly feasible.

bookmeat,

Shut your mouth about VB… 😁

dellish,

Why? I have written a lot of custom macros and created forms to assist filling data fields in large spreadsheets. I have written macros that can open a CSV, comb through the contents and pick out the data I need to fill workbooks.

I’m not saying I’m especially tied to VB itself, I actually find it to be a pretty stupid language, but I do miss being able to write my own functions and effectly use Excel as a pre built GUI for whatever I’m trying to do. If there’s an alternative in Libre Office that I’m missing please point it out.

bookmeat,

LibreOffice supports python, JavaScript, and beanshell, as well as LibreOffice basic. The latter is similar to VBA and some VB scripts can even run unmodified.

help.libreoffice.org/latest/…/scripting.html

dellish,

Oh cool. Thanks, I’ll check it out.

PurpleClouds, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

A bit sceptical of this number. Most popular games have some form of anti cheat which the game not run on Linux. Some other games sometimes have weird bugs that do not occur on windows. - source: I am on Linux 😩

dil, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

The thing is I swapped, whenever I start using something and I dont want it to become popular because everything somehow gets ruined when it gets popular, it ends up getting popular. Im usually a late “early” adopter.

themagzuz, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

i wonder how these numbers change if you weight by active players. like sure, Shooty Guns 2 (2008) running on linux is a good thing, but if it has a grand total of 5 people in the world playing it, it won’t really do much for linux adoption as long as games like league of legends, apex legends and fortnite still don’t work

(for the record i don’t play any of those games and i’ve been happily daily-driving linux with no windows intervention for the last 4 year)

Gonzako,

I seem unable to find this Shooty Guns 2 (2008) you speak of.

Peruvian_Skies,

It’s the sequel to Shooty Guns (1992), one of the first games to come in two separate floppy disks.

Gonzako,

Can’t seem to find it all I get is either the LA shootings of 1992 or knock off games from itchio. Mind sending me an Internet archive page/ pointer to this franchise?

sunbytes,

I’ve yet to find a game that I couldn’t play (though knowing me I probably forgot one or two). It’s mainly mods that I’ve not been able to implement, as some of them require running an exe file.

However I’ve had very helpful people tell me I can do all that in a wine instance or something similar so mainly it’s just my own laziness (and lack of understanding about how to “do it in a wine instance”) that’s holding me back from installing fancy modpacks or playing the latest Stalker gamma version.

Also i don’t play multiplayer stuff so the anti-cheat thing issues don’t usually apply to me. So there’s that.

themusicman,

Lutris for mods. You can point it at the game exe downloaded by steam in many cases (not all), and then run arbitrary exes inside the same wine prefix.

Sauvandu60, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

This is great but my MSI laptop wasn’t very compatible with Linux.

fin,

Like how? You may need some proprietary firmwares.

Treczoks, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

Some shitty games will hold out, but as long as the majority works better under Linux, I’m fine with it.

Drbreen,

I’m trying to get into Linux atm. Working at the kinks and work flow. I will dual boot for the exception that I really want to play that doesn’t run on Linux.

MrScottyTay,

Be careful, windows can fuck up some dual boot setups and make the Linux side worse

addie,
@addie@feddit.uk avatar

Strangely enough, “Windows always fucking up my dual boot setup” is what caused me to drop Windows for good about a decade ago. And Linux gaming has come on absolutely leaps and bounds since then.

imetators, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

The only ones that wouldn’t work are probably the ones with kernel level anti cheat. Maybe if I would be much younger, I might have had different opinion, but, as of today, I believe that all these games that wont run on Linux due to anti-cheat are cancer anyway.

Rekorse,

You can run them alternative ways usually. Fortnite works with mouse and keyboard through gamepass, although gamepass is a shit deal just for fortnite.

I know a lot of people dual boot or use a virtual machine with windows on it too.

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

Kernel level anti-cheat is what’s probably going to keep me on Windows for a while. I get those games aren’t for everyone, but I like them well enough, and that’s what my friend group plays. Warzone, DMZ, and going to try RedSec tomorrow. Kind of a shame. Otherwise I’d love to make the jump. As it is I’ll probably see about dual booting when I get my next PC in a year or two.

brachiosaurus,

You have thousand of other games you can play that don’t require kernel level anti cheat, don’t be a fool

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

I respect where you’re coming from, but a) “fool” is literally in my name. And b) you’re saying “there are other good games, leave those games you’re enjoying.” But you’re also saying “there are other people, leave your friends and family that you play with.” And that’s a little different.

GreatRam,

More like Jeffcool

brachiosaurus,

You should try to strengthen your relationship so that they don’t spin around a specific videogame. What happens if you get banned or the requirements for playing the game becomes even more stupid?

Aceticon,

In my experience AAA games from around 2000s and early 2010s often have problems running in Linux, especially if they have DRM.

In some cases a pirated version will run just fine whilst the official one won’t.

desertdruid,

in my experience it’s the exact same situation on Windows

Aceticon,

Funnilly enough plenty (if not most) games which won’t at all run in a more recent Windows like Windows 10 and Windows 11 run just fine in Linux via Wine.

All in all if we consider the full or near full timeframe for “windows games” (say, all the way back to Win95) I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out that a present day Linux distro can run more “windows games” as Windows 11.

One of the more entertaining (though hardly unexpected) discoveries for me when I moved from Windows to Linux on my gaming machine was that several of the games I owned which I could not get to run in Windows, worked fine in Linux.

Bunbury, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

Can confirm the viable gaming. Some need fairly annoying workarounds that require some regular fiddling to adjust (looking at you EA/Origin with your silly launcher), but in the end it’s definitely playable.

spirinolas, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

There are still lots of reasons that stop people from jumping 100% into Linux. Gaming is less and less one of them.

addie,
@addie@feddit.uk avatar

True, but network effects are important to that.

There were huge numbers of people that wouldn’t move to Linux because it didn’t support all of their games. Now it does, and lots of people are moving.

There are lots of people that won’t move to Linux because they have a random bit of hardware that’s not supported, or a highly-specific bit of software they need to do their job that only runs on Windows. The manufacturers wouldn’t support Linux because not enough people used it. Ah, but now we have all the gamers, so there are quite a lot of people using it.

Each domino that falls encourages the rest. Steam Linux users are more than 3x Steam macOS users, and we’re not that far from overtaking it for general desktop usage. In some regions, that’s already the case, and while the Windows 10 exodus can move to Linux easily, they’d need to buy new hardware fo use the Mac operating system. Not many companies would question providing Apple support; once Linux has a comparable share, it would be foolish to leave that out of consideration as well.

heyWhatsay, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever
@heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net avatar

Rip Microsoft

Tollana1234567, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

trying to force AI into windows 11 isnt helping MS.

Aggravationstation,

I can not understand why they made that decision.

AmbiguousProps,
@AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today avatar

They think line won’t go up if they don’t shove it down every user’s throat. They’ve put most of their eggs in that basket.

SCmSTR,

–> $ <–

bampop,
@bampop@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair it’s not just Microsoft doing that. I was looking at gym equipment the other day and some idiots were trying to sell a fucking home gym with AI. Everyone wants to sell it, nobody wants to buy it.

drmoose, (edited ) do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

I’ve converted all my gaming to linux including vr and couldn’t be happier! Even hardware works flawlessly these days with the exception of VR at times. I’m still struggling to get No Man’s Sky to work on my quest 3 and linux VR and thats really the only thing I’m missing but it seems close to working just needs more fiddling.

Highly recommend Bazzite for people looking for a linux gaming distribution. It’s immutable which can complicate some things but it’s mostly plug and play and impossible to ruin due to immutable nature.

Holytimes,

Cachy does everything bazzite does but better less complicated and more friendly to new users coming from windows.

Immutable distros just add endless headache for new users and are a pain in the ass to look things up for if you don’t explicitly understand what your os is.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

I use cachy on my laptop but I wouldn’t call friendly an arch based distro that during setup asks the user “which of those 19 desktop environment do you want? Choose wisely only one”

It doesn’t even have a gui to install new software (at least, I am not an expert, I chose hyprland and it didn’t install that, and when I manually installed KDE Discover and the GNOME software manager, they only show and install flatpak apps - but because I’m not an expert I might have messed something up)

Drbreen,

I’ve installed Bazzite myself. What do you mean by immutable? I ran into an issue trying to install VPN the other night. Something about the fs being read only. I’m still yet to look into it.

AmbiguousProps,
@AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today avatar

That’s what immutable means in this case. You can’t modify outside of your user directory, at least not directly, on immutable distros. The files outside of your ~ home path are read-only. You can override that a few different ways, however. If your VPN has a flatpak, that’s the easiest way to get it up and running. If you don’t care about more space (minimal, if you only do it for your VPN) being used, you may be able to follow your VPN’s fedora instructions, replacing dnf with rpm-ostree. That will likely allow you to install as you can in other distros.

Feel free to ask any questions if you have any, I’m happy to help.

Drbreen,

Thanks mate. I’m very new to Linux and still have the 101’s to learn. I’m going to see if I can find a CLI cheat sheet somewhere to memorise 😜 Oh and it was a run file that I downloaded for the VPN.

j_0t, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

In my opinion this the unique milestone linux has to achive to be declared as a total winner vs windows, in the near future I would like to see non tech industries using linux instead of microsoft spyware.

InTheTreetop,

If we could get just one of the big tech suites to support it, I think that would help to finally break the dam and get some serious migration.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Mechanical/civil engineering software, music production, and digital art. Those are the big ones.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a chance it will happen outside the USA.

Deciding to send to the landfill every PC sold after 2018 is a decision that they saw analyzing only numbers from big American corporations. “Anyway they lease the computers and have a refresh every 3-5 years”

But the rest of the world?

Here in Italy I still see people on Windows 7

When I traveled in southeast Asia I saw people using windows XP

Or Brazil, where the import taxes make a windows 11 compatible PC ultra expensive

Regular people and small businesses , especially outside the USA won’t simply buy a new PC just because Microsoft and Intel needed the line to go up.

Invisius, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

2026 will be the year of the Linux desktop!

j_0t,

The time is near

fin,

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