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TWeaK, do games w Here are the patents Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are suing Palworld over

5 mil yen is about $32k. In total they’re suing for about $100k.

I would imagine the 3rd patent at the very least should be invalidated - riding characters in video games predates Pokemon (MegaMan riding Rush comes to mind, as well as World of Warcraft [although I don’t know if the patent predates WOW mounts]). However the nature of patents is that once they’re granted they are very difficult to dismiss.

The other two are more tricky. Throwing balls at something us a uniquely Pokémon idea, I think, and the aiming one would come down to the technicalities of the patent itself, which is all Japanese to me.

MrScottyTay,

I’m pretty certain these patents are actually relatively new, keep that in mind too

TWeaK,

Yeah the newer they are, the more frivolous they are - especially since you could argue the release of games using those patents amounts to public disclosure.

However, you’re still left in the situation where an established patent is very solid and difficult to challenge, even when it should never have been granted in the first place.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

They also filled these in Japanese court where Nintendos success affects their economy greatly

Remember how apple won every fucking lawsuit against Samsung back in the day because they filled them in California?

The court is going to be pressured by outside forces to rule in Nintendo’s favor to avoid the stock market having issues there

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Inb4 Palworld has Pal Polygon instead of Sphere

Agent_Karyo, do games w Here are the patents Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are suing Palworld over
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From the translation of the claims, they appear to describe Pokémon-style activities, with ‘191 focused on the act of throwing a ball at characters in a field, ‘117 tied to aiming, and ‘390 on riding characters.

If this is indeed the case, the lawsuit is clearly illegitimate (in the real sense, can’t speak for legal nuances). Not surprising.

simple,

That’s not exactly it. I read the description of '191 and it seems to be more like “throwing a ball to capture a character and place it in the player’s possession or throwing it to release a captured character”. You can see the patent drawings also depecting that, so it’s basically a patent of the Pokeball.

Not a lawyer so I have no idea how it’ll go in court but it does sound like Palworld infringes on this. It’s kinda funny that they could’ve avoided this by being a bit more legally distinct, like how TemTem throws cards instead of balls.

Agent_Karyo, (edited )
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Interesting. Yes, that is a bit more specific.

I personally do not support game design patents because that’s not how gaming works (and people who file such game design patents know this).

What are the other two patents like if you don’t mind me asking? Aiming in particular seems openly malicious (as do mounts to be honest).

simple,

The second one is an older application of the first patent (pokeball again). The third one is literally just being able to mount an object or creature with some caveats like a flying one having to come down and carry you up, that one is ridiculous and a lot of games do something similar all the time.

Agent_Karyo,
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Cheers!

LordGimp,

Skyrim did it first with dragons. Honestly I bought palworld specifically to spite shitendo and ended up pleasantly surprised by a very playable game. Shitendo is just mad that someone else did it better on a shoestring budget

Cocodapuf,

I’m pretty sure there were flying mounts even before Skyrim. Hell, go all the way back to joust.

Walican132,

Didn’t you know gaming started with Skyrim. 🤦

BakedCatboy,

It would be funny if a legal defense would have been using an n-sided 3d polygon that definitely isn’t a sphere. Is a tetrahedron legally distinct enough? How about a truncated isocohedron? Seems silly for the shape to matter.

brlemworld,

The patents were filed after Palworld was released

smeg,

The one thing about patent law I know is that you can’t patent something that already exists in the wild (“prior art”), so surely that can’t be the case, and if it is then it’s open-and-shut, right?

echodot, do games w Take-Two is selling its indie games label Private Division

What indie developer would deliberately sign up with take two?

Buddahriffic, do games w Take-Two is selling its indie games label Private Division

How do you sell an indie game studio? Doesn’t sound very independent even before the sale to me.

josefo,

It was a indie publisher, not developer, big difference. They published titles from indie studios. Publishing is the act of funding, supervision, sometimes giving advice, doing a launch marketing campaign, etc. In short, indie publishers are key for a indie game to make money, as tradicional publishers tend to avoid them because they are high risk.

Sylvartas, do games w Take-Two is selling its indie games label Private Division

Any IP escaping Take Two’s claws is good news

NRay7882,

Unknown buyer, what if it’s TenCent?

rockyracoon, do games w Take-Two is selling its indie games label Private Division

I really hope whoever buys it makes a true KSP2.

CameronDev,

Too soon, I’m still sad.

I suspect KSP2 has probably killed all the goodwill earnt by KSP, I certainly won’t buy anything else until I know its a finished game.

Nilz,

They still haven’t formally announced that development on KSP2 has stopped right? They didnt even announce the studio shutdown. Yet it’s still on sale on Steam…

CameronDev,

The studio shutdown definitely did get announced, but no formal cancellation AFAIK. Selling a cancelled game is just wrong

Cornelius_Wangenheim,

In case you haven’t heard, a bunch of the original KSP developers are teaming up with the DayZ guy’s company to make a spiritual sequel: Kitten Space Agency.

CameronDev,

www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/…/luna2l5/

Initial version will be free, and DRM free, distributed by us and completely open. This will be so we can get feedback from modders and establish some confidence. When the project becomes more structured we will look at future options.

Consider me excited!

SkyeStarfall,

They are also incredibly transparent on their discord. Feel free to join it and look at what the devs are saying for more info!

PunchingWood,

Not sure how to feel about the company behind DayZ getting in on it though. It’s kinda ironic, because they (or the guy that is/was leading them) are quite notorious for abandoning active running projects for something new, and repeatedly doing so. They even did this with DayZ until after a long time they picked it up again (I think), but I’m not sure what state the DayZ is in now.

SkyeStarfall,

I see this myth everywhere, but what is it based on? They’re still actively updating Stationeers and ICARUS

Just look at their update history of you don’t believe me

PunchingWood,

It’s not a myth when it really happens. I specifically remember DayZ being the first game I even reviewed on Steam because they abandoned it to work on a new project before wrapping up DayZ.

It’s just bad business to let projects linger in early access while starting new ones, or even sell loads and loads of DLC for these games. Frankly Steam should do something about it and punish studios abusing the system.

SkyeStarfall,

The big difference is that the DayZ standalone title was controlled by Bohemia Interactive, Rocketwerkz meanwhile is Dean’s studio.

I mean, I get that I don’t have an insider view or anything, but Rocketwerkz has proven itself reliable

In addition, DayZ is like a decade or more old, even in the worst case things might just change

AlexisFR,
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If anything it’s more true for former KSP 2 dev Uber Entertainment.

SkyeStarfall,

What about the publisher take two tho

Lost_My_Mind, do games w Take-Two is selling its indie games label Private Division

I shall buy it for $1.

Ok. Everybody good? I got all the IPs? Ok. Now I release GTA6.

SHOULDA CHECKED THE CONTRACT, SUCKA!!! SHARK CARDS FOR EVERYBODY!!!

Scio,

I shall pay a tuppence, and not a ha’penny more.

HocEnimVeni, do games w Take-Two is selling its indie games label Private Division
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Does this mean news for KSP2?

Coelacanth, do gaming w Playdate is getting a second season of games in 2025
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Still feels a bit pricey but I’m happy to hear about another season. Some day I might get one just to play the Lucas Pope game.

GammaGames,

Mars After Midnight was fun!

zagaberoo,
umbrella, (edited ) do games w Apex Legends is taking away its support for the Steam Deck and Linux
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  • SlamWich,

    W take, The Finals is the best!

    B312,

    Man I’ve not heard about the finals in a while. I remember I played it every day for two week straight and got everything for my class. Is it better now than at launch?

    YeetPics, do games w Apex Legends is taking away its support for the Steam Deck and Linux
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    Block EA on your steam page and avoid all this bullshit.

    Emerica,

    Can you fully block a publisher? I’m sick of seeing Activision and EA games up there so it’d be great if you can.

    Maiq,
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    Steam allows you to ignore publishers.

    1. Go to the steam store page for publisher.
    2. Select the gear icon. Right of the “News” tab
    3. Select Ignore this creator.
    Emerica,

    Little late but, thank you! Got it done.

    InFerNo, do games w Apex Legends is taking away its support for the Steam Deck and Linux

    What a shame, my kid plays this on our Linux pc, he’s gonna be devastated.

    random_character_a, do games w Apex Legends is taking away its support for the Steam Deck and Linux
    @random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

    There was a time when my steam friend preasured me to get Apex Legends, but I refused because of piece of shit EA. Seems I made a right choice.

    But then again nobody plays that anymore, so nothing gained, nothing lost.

    deltapi,

    EA fucked us out of a TitanFall 3. And a 3rd Alice from American McGee

    secret300, do gaming w Playdate is getting a second season of games in 2025

    Holy shit I was just thinking about this thing at work and forgot what it was called

    criss_cross, do games w Apex Legends is taking away its support for the Steam Deck and Linux

    That sucks.

    Apex was the game I played with my friends to keep in touch long distance. Guess I gotta find something new now. Sure as he’ll ain’t installing Win11 for it.

    I guess it’s been a long time coming. The dev decisions and priorities the last few years have really made it feel like I’m the last person they want playing their game.

    Bruhh,

    If you are looking for a semi competitive shooter, I’d highly recommend The Finals. Tons of fun and solid gun play. Game isn’t officially supported but runs great on linux.

    exu,

    Deep Rock Galactic?

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