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Heavybell, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

Geforce Experience had a non-zero percent influence on my choice to go radeon this time around. I doubt this replacement would fare any better, by the sounds of things.

cyberpunk007,

I don’t even use this app on my windows install. As soon as it made me log in I just uninstalled it. Why the fuck would I need to enable data collection to tweak the video card I bought off them? It’s bullshit.

Lemonparty,

Nvidia experience has gotten so bad that I actually download drivers manually from the site again. It should not take 3+ minutes to start a program that does virtually nothing and THEN make me login to even fucking use it - just to update the driver.

miss_brainfarts,

I’m using NVCleanstall, it let’s let’s you configure exactly what components you want installed or not. Can even choose not to install the HDMI audio driver if you don’t have a need for it.

Owljfien,

Their normal installer allows the hdmi to be removed too, was so happy when I discovered that because I want my monitor to act as speakers exactly never

miss_brainfarts,

Huh, didn’t know that, pretty cool

Owljfien,

It’s easy to miss, the checkbox is like one shade of grey different to the things you can’t deselect

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Using the Radeon software is such a good experience. I never had any issues with it or the driver, they are looking clean, are responsive and actually helpful.

Hope that you get a similar experience, for how expensive Nvidia is it should be mandatory to have a good software…

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I went the other way, I do miss the control radeon had, now I have to use afterburner to do the fan control stuff.

Pinecone,

It’s completely optional. All the real driver options are in the control panel.

lorkano,

For now they are, when they are happy with new software they will remove old panel, because otherwise they would have to keep updating two apps with same new changes.

tb_,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

Given how atrocious it is to download drivers from their website…

You’re mostly right but damn, their offerings aren’t pretty.

gerbler,

I haven’t used NVIDIA for drivers in years. You can use NVCleanstall to install them without all the crap.

tb_,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

That is good knowledge

1984, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

This reminds me of when I used to run windows.

Linux doesnt do this shit. :)

WarmSoda,

No one cares

DudeImMacGyver, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

How about just let us download our fucking drivers through a regular package manager like all our other updates you privacy raping shit gibbons?

Kbobabob,

Does this not work for you? Seems simple enough.

www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx

DudeImMacGyver,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Definitely better than GeForce Experience but not exactly what I’m talking about either.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

Damn, who shit in your cornflakes this morning?

Their drivers have always been available directly from their website.

This app is just for Windows, I’m not sure why you’re blabbing on about package managers

fushuan,

Windows has 3 package managers. Chocolatey and scoop are third party while winget ia supported by Microsoft. There’s even a 3rd party made winget gui that interacts with all package managers. BTW, you can download windows store apps through the package manager, and shocker, it installs faster then from the store.

So yeah, having nvidia drivers through any of the package managers would be cool.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

I’m well aware of these. Winget is a disaster of a package manager. All of them just download and run conventional installers with none of the tidiness you get with real package managers on systems actually designed for them. It’s fun watching winget update an app that already updated itself. Do any other GPU vendors typically distribute their drivers through winget?

But the real answer here is Windows Update, which Nvidia does publish drivers through. But not game ready versions, only WHQL certified builds.

Miaou,

Not really nvidia’s fault no one bothered doing it for windows users. I mean it sucks for gamers but nvidia hasn’t cared about this market segment for a while now

DudeImMacGyver, (edited )
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nvidia shit in my cornflakes, obviously.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

by….not putting their driver on winget?

DudeImMacGyver,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Let’s not pretend like they aren’t pushing people to use their data harvesting app.

Trollception,

I haven’t used it since it was released. It’s literally unchecked by default in the driver installer.

Sanctus, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine if your GPU drivers just updated through your package manager. We could have so much automated shit but Nvidia needs tk collect your personal data so heres a web page disguised ss an app. I fucken hate this shit.

SomethingBurger,

To be fair, they do on Windows.

bfg9k,
@bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

Only WHQL drivers though and it’s slow to get onto the WSUS catalog

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

Because they require extra certification from Microsoft.

TheGrandNagus, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge

Fucking finally. Their current one is trash.

Hope they also add overclocking and stuff too, like in AMD’s control panel. And remove the telemetry bs.

chakan2, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

Great…now I need an account just to set my display resolution. How long until the 4k setting costs 5$ a month?

just_change_it,

Please drink verification can to continue.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

The new app has fewer account requirements than the one it is replacing. With GFE, you needed an account just to get automatic driver updates. With the new app, you can do just about anything except redeem free bundled games without an account.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

That a lot of doom and gloom for someone that obviously doesn’t even know what it does.

Carighan, (edited ) do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, cool, they’re finally replacing Geforce Experience, one of the worst pieces of software ever made.

But they’re replacing it with shit that commits all the same crimes. Locally run webserver hosting web interfaces and a website running in a packaged Chrome accesses. Instead of something utterly wild like oh I don’t know, actually building a piece of software not a web page!

Also it still commits the cardinal crime of letting 11y old me do the design and what I thought was “COOOOOL!”, instead of just, you know, looking like an app. In the design language of the OS. Which would be wild, I know.

xyguy,

Hey at least you won’t have to sign in anymore just to get automatic driver update checking.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

That is true. I will say, even with all the features dropped, this is a step in the right direction.

It’s a small one overall, but credit where credit is due, this shows promise. Just wish the underlying architecture were better, it’s still based on the packaged chrome thing.

hperrin,

But being forced to create an account for basic software features is my favorite part!

Quetzalcutlass,

You need an account for update checks? Yet another stupid NVidia antifeature that NVCleanstall saves me from, I guess…

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

you don’t anymore

Katana314,

I fucking work in web development, and I’d rather a UI for a desktop app be built in a native coding framework.

It doesn’t even connect well to all the system level shit it needs to do. EA’s app had a million issues with this.

kindenough,
@kindenough@kbin.social avatar

one of the worst pieces of software ever made

That's kind of an understatement.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

If they’re replacing GeForce experience… Is that going to break moonlight?

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

By itself, yes. GameStream is EOL. And this is said end, it seems.

Your replacement option is Sunshine, or switching to using a steam link setup.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Shit that what I meant to put. Will this affect Sunshine?

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Not for me, no. Sunshine is already the open re-implementation of the gamestream component of Geforce Experience.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Oh perfect thanks

FeelzGoodMan420,

Agreed. They are planning to take away the control panel so we’ll be stuck with this dogshit. Hopefully someone makes something similar to nvidia profile inspector to simulate the old drivers so we remove this new app bullshit.

SquigglyEmpire,

Ughhh. I don’t want the GeForce Experience bloatware anywhere near my machine so this does not bode well.

tgxn,
@tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net avatar

Hey, Logitech G-Hub is bad too!!

BloodSlut, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge

if nvidia spent as much time on their drivers as they do on their failed software attempts the drivers might actually work

Rooki, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

At least you can still download just the driver. Its literally just bloatware from your graphics card manufacture.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Good, I’ve unchecked movies experience so many times

DudeImMacGyver,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can try, but those assholes will keep trying to get your data

Rooki,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

Just on install, the legal stuff you need to accept is just creepy af. Next time i will get a AMD graphics card, it has a lot more open drivers ( especially because i am a linux user )

rustyredox, do games w Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge

Any recommendations for fine tuning Sunshine to match Nvidia’s local Gamestream? I haven’t had much luck in getting Sunshine to run as smoothly at 4K 120Hz HDR 150Mbps via LAN as Nvidia’s deprecated streaming server software, so have to slow to migrate over.

codemichael,

Have you tried the AV1 codec?

rustyredox,

Aside from my PC, the newest device I own is only a snapdragon 8 gen 1 soc device, which I think sadly doesn’t have a hardware AV1 decider. Definitely a consideration for later upgrades.

neatchee,

Uh sunshine is usually MORE performant, not less. I would suggest heading to the Moonlight/Sunshine discord server and requesting help there.

Personally I have no issues streaming 4k@60 150mbps on a wired connection with moonlight and sunshine. Would try @120 if I had a display that supported it lol

rustyredox,

I’m surprised I couldn’t yet find a dummy HDMI plug to spoof a 4K@120Hz capable display. All the ones I’ve found thus far only support 120Hz at 1080p, and never any HDR support at all. I have an OLED android device with 2K screen and matching refresh rate, but the without a physical monitor to stream capturing from. Emulating such display resolutions and colored depths also seems just as formidably challenging.

neatchee,

Why not use one of the EDID cloning ones? All you need is access to a display with the features you need.

PHLAK,
@PHLAK@lemmy.world avatar

Sunshine/Moonlight should perform better than Gamestream at the default settings.Try turning down your bitrate. 4K will work fine at 100Mbps.

Dalek_Thal, do gaming w You should play Splatoon with your family: Why touch grass alone when you can pretend to be squids together?
@Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone avatar

Sure, if Splatoon 3 were actually good. It’s a game designed from the ground up to be frustrating, between terrible matchmaking, peer-to-peer multiplayer, and stage design that forces players into very lopsided combat.

Play something good with your family, not Splatoon 3.

GammaGames,

How dare someone else like something you don’t!!! And with their family?! The sick fuck

SteleTrovilo,

Pretty much nothing you said is true, it was not “designed from the ground up to be frustrating” and the other statements are too vague to even bother attacking. “Not even wrong” is the phrase that comes to mind.

You didn’t even mention an example of a game which would count as “something good”.

PonyOfWar, do gaming w You should play Splatoon with your family: Why touch grass alone when you can pretend to be squids together?

I’d love to play it with my niece and nephew if the game had a split screen mode. Not going to happen if they need a Switch and a copy of the game each.

SteleTrovilo,

Splatoon 1 actually had local multiplayer - it was 2-player only, but for those of us with kids, it was good enough. Split screen multiplayer in Splatoon 2/3 would’ve been great.

lemmyseizethemeans, do gaming w Microsoft’s recent layoffs contradict what the company promised of its merger, the FTC says.

Sure we will honor the terms set in the acquisition filing

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/eb3ad051-d510-46f0-94ee-2f8d5a0943cb.gif

Treczoks, do gaming w Microsoft’s recent layoffs contradict what the company promised of its merger, the FTC says.

As if they would care. What is the FTC going to do about it? Most likely do nothing, or issue a stern warning.

bitcrafter,

This news story is literally about the FTC actively suing for injunctive relief; the “complaint” in question is actually a formal legal letter addressed to the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court.

Edit: fixed typo

Treczoks,

Yes, of course they have complained to the courts. That's not the point. This simply will go nowhere, or do you expect that the court will somehow separate Activision out of Microsofts hands again to fix this? Or punish the managers at Microsoft and make them withdraw the execution plan to remove redundant jobs?

At the end of it, Microsoft will eventually pay a small, symbolic sum which they consider "cost of conducting business". Nothing more.

GrundlButter,

As pessimistic as it sounds, I think you’re right. There’s likely some back pay they will have to give to the workforce they fired, which is a pittance compared to what they stand to earn as they milk their purchase dry.

bitcrafter,

If the appellate court is unhappy with the lower court’s ruling, then there is no reason for it not to reverse it and tell Microsoft to stop the process of merging with Activision until the proceedings have completed. Admittedly this outcome might be inconvenient for Microsoft and Activison, but it is not the job of the court to care about this.

bitcrafter,

Yes, of course they have complained to the courts. That’s not the point.

That is moving the goalposts. In your other comment, you said, “What is the FTC going to do about it? Most likely do nothing, or issue a stern warning.” I have demonstrated that they are doing neither of these things but instead are going through the courts to get injunctive relief.

This simply will go nowhere, or do you expect that the court will somehow separate Activision out of Microsofts hands again to fix this?

If the appellate court decides that the lower court erred in its reasoning, then there is no reason why it could not issue such an order. It is not like this would be the first time that the government broke up a company.

Or punish the managers at Microsoft and make them withdraw the execution plan to remove redundant jobs?

There is no reason why the court could not issue an injunction preventing it from executing this plan until the proceeding concludes.

At the end of it, Microsoft will eventually pay a small, symbolic sum which they consider “cost of conducting business”. Nothing more.

If the FTC considered this to be a sufficient remedy then they probably would have settled with Microsoft by now rather than taking this to the courts.

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