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Fizz, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

People think Xbox is shit at the moment. Making things more like xbox isnt received as positively as it used to be. When I was a windows user and I saw anything Xbox related come up I knew I was about to deal with some clunky bullshit that was not wanted and poorly implemented.

Rooty,

I haven’t heard anything from MS on the subject of Xbox since the release of PS5. I think it’s dead in the water.

robdor, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

The best of windows? Windows 11 is shit. Is there some better windows they are hiding somewhere?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The best of Windows is running more than just games that got ported to Xbox, and at better settings.

Codilingus,

Actually, yes there is! Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC. massgrave.dev

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, it’s called Windows 7.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Windows 2000 Pro?

SnotFlickerman, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“Xbox” will just be Windows going forward, at least on handhelds.

We’ve come full circle, almost like a red ring of death.

bjoern_tantau,
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I just don’t get why they didn’t think of quickly porting the Xbox interface over to desktop Windows. Should have been an easy fix to make handheld gaming on Windows more appealing.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a lot more than that. SteamOS isn’t just Steam Big Picture Mode. There’s some special sauce in there to capture the active window so that you never lose focus of the game window and such. If you just run a Windows machine set to boot into Steam Big Picture on startup, you’ll find lots of times that you have to break out a keyboard to Alt+Tab for a variety of reasons that SteamOS never encounters. And given the other problems Windows has introduced over the past decade, that’s the least of their problems now.

MrScottyTay,

Just chiming in to confirm you’re correct. I use big picture mode on windows and I’ve got to keep an air mouse with me for moments like that.

LiveLM,

special sauce in there to capture the active window so that you never lose focus

All hail Gamescope!

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

RROD was actually 3/4ths of a circle. A full red circle was a different and less troubling error.

malloc, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

Anything Microsoft built lately is dogshit. They turned Windows into a steaming pile of shit over the past 20 years. When you think it can’t get any worse, they somehow raise the bar on disappointment.

No doubt it will be loaded with a shit ton of tracking/telemetry to build new datasets and train LLMs. Mining data from kids/teenagers and building those ad profiles early on is key.

Repairability will likely be shit as well.

MyOpinion, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

Pass.

bjoern_tantau, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I think the timing of this news coming so close after Valve announcing the SteamOS beta shows that Microsoft might actually be afraid.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The timing is because CES is happening right now. Microsoft has been eyeing this use case since at least the launch of the Steam Deck.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Ah, that makes more sense.

adarza,

probably started more around the switch. it takes microsoft forever to invent copy something.

Phen,

And to think that this all started because Gabe was afraid that microsoft’s “app store” would hurt Steam so he decided to fully embrace Linux to in preparation. I bet not even Gabe expected back then that the situation would be as it is today.

Nibodhika,

I am fairly sure Gabe expected this, in fact I think he expected more. See, back when Windows95 was first released people were skeptical that Windows would be a good platform for gaming, they cited non-existent technical issues (similar to how they do with Linux now) that drove the employees at Microsoft mad, so one particular employee had the idea to port the most advanced game at the time to Windows, they contacted ID software, and got in an agreement that they would write the Windows port of Doom and give them the code back, ID agreed and after Doom was released for Windows more and more people started to port their stuff over since it was clearly possible. So essentially Windows being a gaming platform was only possible thanks to that employee, who after working with games liked it so much that he quit Microsoft to create his own gaming company which he called Valve. Yup, Gabe Newell is responsible for both Windows and Linux being seen as a gaming platform.

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

I was hoping I’d fly under the radar will they have their heads deep in llm ass, but Gaben basically mortally wounded Windows and it’s bleeding out

FeelzGoodMan420, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

Zzzzzz

Tattorack, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

A Horizon movie could work, so long as it’s not going to adapt one of the game’s stories, and works instead as an expansion of the world rather than a retread.

Helldivers… I’m not seeing it. I’m not seeing it at all. It’ll simply be off-brand Starship Troopers. Besides, what story is there to tell? The game’s direction is partially, in some small part, driven by the way players react to alerts events. You’re not going to capture that in a movie.

hal_5700X, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

Helldivers is Starship Troopers (the movie version). So the movie is going to be more Starship Troopers?

Man, Sony is astroturfing the fuck out of Horizon. Look at that Lego game no one bought and that pointless remake of the first game.

So two pointless movies. Thanks, Sony.

SkyezOpen,

Starship troopers, the game (the movie).

Mobiledecay, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies
@Mobiledecay@lemmy.world avatar

The games already are movies. Nothing but cut scenes.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Well, not Helldivers.

Critical_Thinker, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

The far cry benchmark is the most telling. Looks like it’s around a 15% uplift based on that.

Subverb,

About two months ago I upgraded from 3090 to 4090. On my 1440p I basically couldn’t tell. I play mostly MMOs and ARPGs.

darthsid,

Shouldn’t have upgraded then….

Critical_Thinker,

Those genres aren’t really known for having brutal performance requirements. You have to play the bleeding edge stuff that adds prototype graphics postprocessing in their ultra or optional settings.

When you compare non RT performance the frame delta is tiny. When you compare RT it’s a lot bigger. I think most of the RT implementations are very flawed today and that it’s largely snake oil so far, but some people are obsessed.

I will say you can probably undervolt / underclock / power throttle that 4090 and get great frames per watt.

Paradachshund, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

I think both of these could be great movies, but could also be done extremely poorly (especially helldivers). I hope they get people who like and understand the IPs for these ones.

Maalus,

… All movies could be great or could be done very poorly.

B312,

Not really

bitjunkie, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

I’m sure these will be great options in 5 years when the dust finally settles on the scalper market and they’re about to roll out RTX 6xxx.

frezik,

Scalpers were basically non existent in the 4xxx series. They’re not some boogieman that always raises prices. They work under certain market conditions, conditions which don’t currently exist in the GPU space, and there’s no particular reason to think this generation will be much different than the last.

Maybe on the initial release, but not for long after.

Critical_Thinker,

The 4090 basically never went for MSRP until Q4 2024… and now it’s OOS everywhere.

nobody scalped the 4080 because it was shit price/perf. 75% of the price of a 4090 too… so why not just pay the extra 25% and get the best?

the 4070ti (aka base 4080) was too pricey to scalp given that once you start cranking up the price then why not pay the scalper fee for a 4090.

Things below that are not scalp worthy.

SaltySalamander,

The 4090 basically never went for MSRP until Q4 2024

This had nothing to do with scalpers though. Just pure corporate greed.

Critical_Thinker,

I’m not so sure. Companies were definitely buying many up, but they typically stick to business purchasing channels like CDW/Dell/HP etc.

Consumer boxed cards sold by retailers might have went to some small businesses/startups and independent developers but largely they were picked up by scalpers or gamers.

I work in IT and have never went to a store to buy a video card unless it was an emergency need to get a system functional again. It’s vastly preferred to buy things through a VAR where warranties and support are much more robust than consumer channels.

bitjunkie,

Scalpers were basically non existent in the 4xxx series.

Bull fucking shit. I was trying to buy a 4090 for like a year. Couldn’t find anything even approaching retail. Most were $2.3k+.

Blackmist, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

They’re not even pretending to be affordable any more.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately, that’s the anti-scalper countermeasure. Crippling their crypto mining potential didn’t impact scalping very much, so they increased the price with the RTX 40 series. The RTX 40s were much easier to find than the RTX 30s were, so here we are for the RTX 50s. They’re already on the edge of what people will pay, so they’re less attractive to scalpers. We’ll probably see an initial wave of scalped 3090s for $3500-$4000, then it will drop off after a few months and the market will mostly have un-scalped ones with fancy coolers for $2200-$2500 from Zotac, MSI, Gigabyte, etc.

MDCCCLV,

Not really a countermeasure, but the scalping certainly proved that there is a lot of people willing to buy their stuff at high prices.

nova_ad_vitum,

The existence of scalpers means demand exceeds supply. Pricing them this high is a countermeasures against scalpers…in that Nvidia wants to make the money that scalpers would have made .

SaltySalamander,

No, it's a direct result of observing the market during those periods and seeing the lemmings beating down doors to pay 600-1000 dollars over MSRP. They realized the market is stupid and will bear the extra cost.

b34k,

The switch from proof of work to proof of stake in ETH right before the 40 series launch was the primary driver of the increased availability.

werefreeatlast,

Buy 800 of those or buy a house. Pick.

Masamune,

I can’t do either of those. I chose Option C, a hospital visit.

neon_nova,

Look at money bags over here. He can go to the HoSpItAl.

merthyr1831,

Nvidia is just doing what every monopoly does, and AMD is just playing into it like they did on CPUs with Intel. They’ll keep competing for price performance for a few years then drop something that drops them back on top (or at least near it).

vane, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

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