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Yokozuna, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

As someone who wanted to love Elite Dangerous but couldn’t get behind the grind and monotony of it, would this game be worth getting now?

Lesrid,

One thing I loved about Elite was the collection of mini games. Navigating through the space station to your landing pad, finding a suitable patch of surface to touchdown on a planet, having to fight or yield to a supercruise interdiction, they all came together to make Elite feel like a driving game where your vehicle happens to be a spaceship.

In No Man’s Sky landing and takeoff are achieved with a singular button press. And the ship combat is there to check a box. The game is mostly about taking pics of flora and fauna and digging trenches in planets for minerals.

Yokozuna,
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

Yea, I would have to agree wholeheartedly that the ship flying is awesome in Elite. The ambiance is great, such as the creaking of the ship when in hyper drive. I guess the games are two different kind of space Sims. If what you’re telling me is accurate about NMS then Elite is probably better for me in the long run, I just wish I had a friend who would actually play it with me and make space a little less lonely - I guess I would have the same problem in either title come to think of it.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, for the most part ship flying is better in Elite. Especially travelling long distances. But I still enjoy it in NMS for the most part.

undergroundoverground,

Each to their own. I’ve played both and I found elite to be very “space truck driver…ey”. Personally, I want to spend my time exploring solar systems and not decelerating to space stations. NMS also has rich and meaningful planetary exploration and not a hollow imitation afterthought.

Due to the depth of NMS, I wouldn’t even put them as comparable. One is an award winning best seller that’s having yet another huge free update just to make the fans happy, the other is free on playstation plus because no one will buy it.

Yokozuna,
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

Yea that’s kinda what I was getting at in my comments on here, maybe not necessarily this comment you replied to, but elite definitely had the ship aspect of the game down, it feels so good to fly around, bur you’re totally right in how you called it a space trucking feel. That’s where I get tired of it even if you can get out of your ship with the expansion now. With all of the comments here I think I’ll wind up buying it here soon and giving it a whirl.

deur,

Yeah!

johannesvanderwhales,

Ehhh, maybe. While the game is so much better than it was at launch, it’s still pretty sandboxy and repetitive. I found myself dropping it after I realized I was trying to build bases to get better at gathering resources to make money to buy bigger ships to make more money to… What exactly?

Yokozuna,
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

Yea Elite Dangeous is kind of the same, you have to make your own objectives or you’re just running missions to make money to buy ships to be more efficient at those runs and eventually even bigger ships to make more money.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

There is at least a couple of core storyline loops that I think are fairly engaging, besides just setting your own goals.

jjjalljs,

Yeah once I had a fleet and some bases mining resources for a ton of money , and a ship I liked, I kind of lost interest.

It’s a good game but it doesn’t go on forever.

Moneo,

Unrelated but this is why I stopped play BotW after the first boss temple thingy.

SaintWacko,

Isn’t that most games, though?

Klanky,
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

I came to a realization a few years ago that I am too boring to play sandbox games. I need a tightly crafted narrative, I cannot be left to my own devices. After a long time of trying to get into every sandbox game that looked cool, it was such a relief to finally realize that about myself.

theangryseal,

I’m the same way and I hate it.

I really really want to enjoy those games.

redcalcium,

There are a lot of things to do in nms now after years of updates. Right now it’s 50% off so I say it’s worth it

BluesF,

If you don’t like grindy monotony it is not the game for you.

Yokozuna,
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

I would say I do to an extent, but elite dangerous solo is pretty egregious i just feel really confined even though you can get out of your ship now. If there were a few more things to do it would check all of the boxes such as things you could do in NMS like build bases, etc. And plus the ship customization is strictly internals and you don’t have the ability to change the overall look of your ship besides skins.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I felt the same way about E:D, and I also enjoyed No Man’s Sky quite a bit.

Xanis,

I’ve on/off played this game for way too long. If you can get past the initial slow start, and I’m talking at least two hours of gameplay, then you’ll find things begin opening up. This expanding of the gameplay applies to equipment, ships, battles, exploration, and mechanics in general. It’s a game that has become a fantastic experience and yet along the way sort of forgot about that initial experience, which could be expedited significantly without much loss.

That said, if you struggle to make challenges for yourself and often end up aimlessly wandering til you get bored without some direction, I would hesitate to grab NMS. Go watch a recent Let’s Play may be the best idea to get a handle on whether it fits your preferences.

pimento64,

So you’re saying it’s the perfect game to get for playing while AFKing redwoods in old school runescape

Deconceptualist, (edited )

No. Every single gameplay mechanic in NMS is shallow and made by someone incompetent on game design.

The engine runs well and it’s a weird giant sandbox and it gets tons of grindy cosmetic content updates. But the actual game aspects are terrible.

EDIT: Disagree? Name one game mechanic that’s designed well compared to other games.

person420,

Though, flying a ship in VR is pretty dope.

Deconceptualist,

That’s cool, but isn’t it also true of Elite?

Also I felt like halfway into the game there was nowhere good to go in my cool ships. I mostly went between my settlement and freighter.

person420,

I’m not sure about Elite, but I think I was saying that more to your point than against it.

When I first got the game I had about 50-60 hours into it before I started getting bored. I spent most of that time farming eggs to sell and hanging out in space ports waiting for cool ships to arrive. I’ve come back a few times after updates but it always felt monotonous. All that’s really left is it’s a cool VR tech demo, as long as you only want to fly ships (which is pretty cool, but gets old fast).

undergroundoverground,

For me, yes. Its an award winning best seller. Its also dirt cheap and a labour of love for all the scifi they enjoy. They listened to what their players wanted and just … did it, like a bunch of psychopaths.

It also has one of the most meta storylines I’ve ever seen in a game. For me, its a very special game and as close as anyones come to the space game I always wanted growing up.

Its not for everyone of course. But, if its your kind of thing, it’ll really work for you. Honestly, if anyone choses to play it, id recommend getting a buzz going on whatever poison you’re into, don’t Google any of it fot a bit and let it unfold as you play. Part of the game is figuring out the game.

redcalcium, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul

Wtf I thought the previous update was the last update?

Cqrd,

So far they’ve literally ended every update video with something like “And there’s more to come!”, including this one.

Turious, do gaming w Critically acclaimed Dragon's Dogma 2 hits "mostly negative" on Steam after players raze it for microtransactions

This is what I was afraid of 15 years ago. I couldn’t tell you the last time I bought a AAA game. This release is so disgusting.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They expect you to spend $60 on a game plus microtransactions?

I put away 50 to 100+ hours into games that cost me $15. Why doesn’t everybody else do this? Does high-end 3D graphics actually matter that much to people?

Xenxs,

It does, unsurprisingly.

TwoBeeSan,

$70 nowadays.

Get fucked Capcom. Can always dig through backlog until it’s reasonably priced and not a buggy mess.

Japanese company and poor business decisions are a match made in heaven. After success its almost like they race to shoot themselves in the foot.

zeroAhead,

EA, Activision blizzard, Ubisoft, 2k games and many more. I think you meant “AAA gaming companies and poor business decisions are a match made in heaven”.

Gabu,

We’ll watch From Software’s career with great interest.

mineralfellow,

Chess is free. No DLC. I have never stopped playing.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Chess is free to play now, but for centuries it was more like shareware.

Welt,

What do you mean?

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

You can play online and there are tons of free apps, but it used to be that someone had to purchase a set to be able to share it with their friends. Though since making copies would have been difficult I guess it would have been more like Mario Party than the first nine levels of Doom.

Gabu,

The issue was never having the set, you can make one in an afternoon with scrap wood. The problem is having other people who want to play whenever you want to play.

Welt,

But doesn’t shareware refer to software that is distributed freely, playable (maybe with limitations on how far you can play into the game, or how long you can play it for free) but it’s generally a proprietary game that is distributed through this model? I may not have a perfect grasp on the precise meaning of shareware.

I see chess more like abandonware - if someone developed a proto-chess game and didn’t assert their ownership over the IP (recognising that this happened before copyright and IP were understood concepts), doesn’t that make it effectively free to play, noting you of course need a board to play?

Maybe an ancient and highly modded board game doesn’t translate that well to a software/copyright analogy. Also you lost me on your comparison between Mario Party (I think you mean only one person needs to own the game) and the first levels of Doom (which are more like a demo). I don’t see either of these as shareware, though I guess a freely playable demo is a form of shareware with my understanding of the term above!

Grass,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/85939096-8cf5-4b49-90ec-992bd4e2e403.jpegI feel like there used to be a time where we didn’t pay the canada tax on games

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

I couldn’t tell you the last time I bought a AAA game.

BG3

hexabs,

It’s kind of telling that when I play BG3 I can never label it a AAA game. My heart just doesn’t accept it.

MyNamesNotRobert, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul

That was the only thing left keeping me from being interested in the game. Finally, ship customization. Finally.

crawancon, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul

this game came out in 2016 btw

kudos HG! grah!

Decoy321,

GRAH!!

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

…Interloper

bizzle, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Well, with ship customization this game is finished enough for me to play it again.

BallShapedMan, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve played through the game a few times and am at it again in VR. A good use of the $60 I probably spent for it.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social avatar

My last foray into NMS ended when I found a little town and was promptly attacked by sentinels that could heal each other through walls.

Zahille7, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul

I might try this again when I get home

maniacal_gaff, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul

Playing this on the playstation vr2 is mind blowing.

kinkles, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@kinkles@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wow finally!

mp3, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Honestly I’m really thrilled to play the update tonight.

Sneptaur, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

Common Hello Games W

Sigh_Bafanada, do gaming w Critically acclaimed Dragon's Dogma 2 hits "mostly negative" on Steam after players raze it for microtransactions

I was thinking that Horizon Forbidden West had fucked up again and set their PC release for the same day as Dragon’s Dogma 2.

But for once it actually worked out in their favour. Dragon’s Dogma 2 has an awful PC port, while HFW is running very well.

Mako_Bunny,

Except that it runs like shit on consoles too

Aatube, do games w Social MMO Sky: Children Of The Light is heading to Steam early access in April

Not sure how exactly it's a live service game

Social multiplayer is like the core of the game, plus seasons

one and done

There's also a prestige system

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