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flamingmongoose, do gaming w China announces rules to reduce spending on video games

Actually good regulations targeting the most manipulative of game designs.

FlashMobOfOne,
!deleted7243 avatar

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Kbin_space_program,

You missed the bit that game companies have to have their servers physically located in China.

Exec,
@Exec@pawb.social avatar

Hasn’t it been like that for decades now?

smeg,

Absolutely mental that it takes a full-on authoritarian government directive to sort out wildly exploitative practices in video games

Blapoo, do gaming w Microsoft closes $69 billion Activision Blizzard deal after Britain's nod

Fuck Activision

CommanderCloon,

Fuck Bobby kotick

Fiivemacs, do games w Microsoft to release next 'Call of Duty' game on subscription service, source says

LuL

Buy console

Subscribe to internet

Subscribe to Xbox whatever

Subscribe to game

Buy in-game content

havokdj,

Pretty soon it will be subscribe to console as well

zelifcam,
@zelifcam@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t they do that already? I thought Microsoft offered low end Xbox with a subscription when they first launched gamepass?

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe you’re thinking of Xbox All-access, which allowed users to buy Xbox + Game Pass Ultimate and pay them all over one year (or three, can’t remember).

muse, (edited )
@muse@fedia.io avatar

Two years, I got a series s and game pass ultimate for the cost of game pass ultimate.

It now is a lovely media machine for my living room after being paid off and the gamepass expired

NoneYa,

They’re kind of working on one device that is basically smaller than an Apple TV and will connect to your TV and is thought to be strictly for streaming games and nothing more. Essentially would be this since you have no storage or resources for locally stored game playing.

This small device was seen on a shelf in a live stream a few years ago and there were some other rumors surrounding it.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Not quite.

Buy Xbox and then either subscribe to gamepass ultimate or buy the game and then subscribe to gamepass core (just renamed XBL gold) to play online. Its still dumb that you have to pay to play online but you still have the option to outright buy any MS published games.

RightHandOfIkaros,

The point of paying to play online is to pay for the features and infrastructure to support it.

Otherwise you end up with PS2 Online or Nintendo WFC. Both rampant with horrible lag and cheaters.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Now those online services are supported by digital sales, like on PC storefronts. Digital makes up the majority of console purchases now too, but they still continue to charge for online, so it’s no wonder PC market share grew in the interim.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Steam exists

mark3748,

Well, it just says they’re including it with Game Pass. So you have the option of not actually purchasing the game for $70 (every year!) but you still get to play. There’s a lot of good games for both Xbox and PC so it’s a decent value proposition for a lot of people.

I don’t buy AAA games, so it’s kind of nice to have the option to play some of them without a big upfront investment. The real stars are the smaller and indie games.

It’s not for everyone, but for the cost of a Netflix subscription I can play a shitload of games on my PC and my kids get a huge library on the console.

CharlesReed,

This is why I like GamePass. There's a bunch of games on there that I probably wouldn't play otherwise. And yeah, they're not all great, but I've found some that I really enjoy.

maynarkh,

GamePass is still early in the enshittification cycle. It will get worse.

secret300,

Can’t wait for game pass games to show an ad on each death

BruceTwarzen,

Cod players be like: noice

redcalcium,

How long until we get Microsoft teams up with Mountain Dew to release xbox verification cans 2FA devices?

Matriks404, do games w Cozy video games can quell stress and anxiety

You know what gives me stress? Websites that reinvent scrolling.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

This^

It’s the most frustrating thing that I encountered today

brsrklf,

Oh shit. I probably would have thought that site didn’t work and I would have given up immediately if I hadn’t read that comment.

I think I both love and hate that.

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

I spent a couple of minutes on that website, but I still don’t understand what it wanted me to do

fmstrat,

That page was made for Firefox’s Reader Mode. Sheash.

altima_neo, do gaming w China announces rules to reduce spending on video games
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Man do I hate daily log in rewards. I wonder if this will affect tencents games that are released in the west?

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Yea they will have more shit to compensate for the losses in the Chinese market.

walter_wiggles,

China wants to remove the adverse affects of gambling/addiction from it’s populace, not the world. This is just another facet like their social media restrictions.

kick_out_the_jams, (edited )

a word for such things is 'dark patterns'
it's not designed to be liked but to keep the player returning habitually and upping so called "retention."

sculd, do gaming w China announces rules to reduce spending on video games

Banning login bonus is such a good idea. When I am busy I simply don’t have time or remember to login once per day and then I miss out on some items.

johntash,

I’m alright with the games that give you daily rewards but they don’t have to be consecutive days. It still benefits people who log in everyday, but you at least aren’t entirely missing out

weew,

or they get around it by not making it a “login” bonus but “do this really quick and easy daily quest” bonus.

not_that_guy05, do games w Electronic Arts to lay off 5% of workforce, reduce office spaces

You know, work from home would help clear that office space, but we can’t have that. Too much power to the employees, why would they.

henfredemars,

A lot of those executives own real estate and need to keep those numbers up. I wonder how long before we pay people to sit in offices just so they can inflate their value.

Wait a minute…

ObamaBinLaden,

It’s not about office space. They built a new office which somehow doesn’t have enough capacity for everyone but it’s still mandatory two days a week. It’s just micromanagement at this point.

CarbonatedPastaSauce, do games w Reuters: New research backs up that video games can be an antidote to stress and anxiety [interactive article]

As a lifelong gamer and and an almost lifelong enjoyer of the despair of watching humanity defile our one and only home… duh.

Video games are weapons grade copium for smart people.

simple,

Video games are weapons grade copium

Using this from now on.

I agree it’s really obvious to anyone who plays games, but it’s always nice to be backed up with proper research.

SteveNashFan,

It’s not just about dopamine/cope either. Knowing that people saw the state of the world they lived in, and came together to make good art anyway, is good for the soul. It reminds us that there is still good in the world worth fighting for.

It’s easy to forget that when algorithms show us the worst and stupidest of humanity every day for peak engagement.

GhiLA, do games w Exclusive: Sony is in talks to buy Kadokawa, the media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring'
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nice while it lasted…

MelodiousFunk, do gaming w Microsoft closes $69 billion Activision Blizzard deal after Britain's nod
@MelodiousFunk@kbin.social avatar

Til all are one.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

You will have Game Pass. You will only have Game Pass.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Or just don’t buy it. 🤷‍♂️

Not that difficult to say no to an abusive company.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Not that difficult to say no to an abusive company.

It is very hard to say no to an abusive company. I guarantee you purchase something from an abusive company. You’re not going to consumerism your way our of consumerism.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

lol. Mister why bother with anything over here.

You can make decisions on what you support. You don’t have to be perfect and boycott literally every company to make a difference.

People don’t have control over every choice but enough to matter. Especially in regards to entertainment.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

There is extremely limited entertainment that is not based on abuse. It gets worse obviously outside of entertainment but I think you’d have a hard time naming any entertainment company of scale that isn’t abusive.

Then there’s the fact that you’d be using a device built on abuse to play the entertainment.

This is always just some corporate propaganda so entrenched that you think you can not buy a product to make change. Yet companies like Nestle can be well known for seeing water as a luxury and using literal child saves to harvest cocoa while being profitable year after year.

Game studios like Blizzard need labor rights and unions not people saying they’ll hold them accountable online by not buying a video game while Diablo 4 becomes one of the fastest selling games of all time. You’re just spending lip service to the corporate elite and chasing after a solution that doesn’t hold them accountable.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Yes literally every screen, console and movie player is built on abuse, so let’s not do anything about the companies that do openly abuse their employees and customers. It’s all bad anyways so might as well do nothing with your thumb up your ass.

Nestle does horrible things and literally has killed children but let’s do nothing and buy their products anyways. Not like there are multiple nestle boycott groups all over the internet spreading awareness. No they are just wasting their time.

You can stand up against abuse from one company while being unable to do much about another.

Doing nothing gets you nowhere. I’m not saying choosing to support a company or not is the end all be all but it is the damn minimum you can do. Unions and laws against monopolies is what we need.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t understand if you misread or are just too upset here but I never advocated for doing nothing. I advocated for doing something while consumerism is doing nothing. It’s the same bullshit plastic companies sold us about recycling and now the whole planet is covered in plastic.

I also don’t understand what the hell you mean about laws against monopolies, those exist and those are literally why MS didn’t buy ABK like a year ago. Oligopolies are just as problematic if not more problematic than monopolies.

You keep “standing up against abuse” by not buying video game. I hope I am wrong and it fixes everything.

Katana314,

I can understand this comment for something like an abusive mineral miner in Africa selling electronics parts, or a food corporation that makes shared ingredients. Video games, though, are much more of a finished product, and easy to find competition for.

Tak, (edited )
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

All major game companies abuse their employees. I agree with not giving them money but it will do nothing. The way people fight abusive employers is with with unions and organizing not with giving money to the other company that abuses employees.

Diablo 4 made sales records amongst the most I have ever seen gamers saying they will boycott something. I want to be wrong, I want this to do something but I see absolutely no information to support that. Meanwhile I do see regulations and unions making change in the real world.

Katana314,

I was disappointed to hear allegations of toxic work environments in Moon Studios, the people who made indie darling Ori and the Blind Forest. So while abusive employers are certainly an important issue, it doesn’t appear to be one that’s specific to large companies. Furthermore, it was never going to get solved under the supervision of Bobby Kotick - a man who was never going to leave unless something like the Microsoft deal happened.

There’s lots of horrible companies in the world, and I salute anyone’s efforts to boycott the ones doing horrible shit. Part of the reason I’m ambivalent about the merger is, I don’t even buy (or care about the success of) Activision games. But I don’t see that as a topic directly relevant to corporate merging/growth. Two publishers merge, that hasn’t added to the amount of employee abuse going on in each of their studios.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

All of this in my eyes boils down to how capitalism is the problem and I don’t think we solve capitalism with boycotts but with strikes.

BroBot9000, (edited )
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Just stop buying their “games”

Oh I mean “live services” that are broken on release, designed to charge you for everything and will be taking offline the moment it’s no longer profitable.

How about gamers stop throwing money away and enabling this shit company to absorb everything around it and making worse and worse games. But that won’t happen. Y’all have the conviction of sliced bread when it comes to preordering.

Pick up some good indie games already.

SuiXi3D,
@SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

…there are a lot of good Indie games on GamePass.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

So you choose to give that money to a large corporation subscription instead of just buying the game from the indie devs?

You are exactly why these companies are getting away with whatever they want.

ChronosWing,

No one forced indie devs to put their games on gamepass, why is it my fault? I will pay for what I feel is worth my money, and gamepass has surpassed that ten fold. When they decide to go the way of netflix by jacking up prices and reducing offerings then I will stop paying for it just like I did with netflix.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

You are the frog slowly getting boiled.

I’ll give them money as long as they offer me a fair service. “Puts on clown makeup”

If they misbehave like Netflix I’ll stop paying them.

“Puts on clown nose”

I don’t mind that I have no other choice now because the console I bought is only subscription based.

“Puts on clown wig”

Nobody could have done anything right…

ChronosWing,

Not sure what you are even on about, I don’t even own an xbox. I use gamepass on PC. I have other choices, I also have a Steam account with over 1000 games on it. You just sound like a jaded asshole.

HughJanus,

When they decide to go the way of netflix by jacking up prices and reducing offerings then I will stop paying for it just like I did with netflix.

Then it will be too late.

ChronosWing,

No, I’ll just go back to my Steam account and not give a shit.

HughJanus,

You don’t seem to understand that you won’t have a Steam account to go back to.

Katana314,

2030: Microsoft sends mercenaries to burn down the offices of Valve Corporation. The act is legalized under the 2026 Monopoly Militarism Act.

ChronosWing,

This is some high level paranoia right here. 🤣

HughJanus,

You sound like a Blockbuster executive.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Look at how Epic was doing business. They threw around hundreds of millions of dollars to buy exclusivity. And Epic was small time compared to MS. What happens when they do the same but on a larger scale? They buy exclusivity to Game Pass forever? They're already buying gaming powerhouses, indie games are a drop in the bucket.

This merger should be opposed by everyone. It's a dark sign of things to come. They've already shown they WILL cut out all competition once they buy competitors.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Yup! They are trying to build their own walled garden like Apple.

This and all other massive company mergers need to be stopped and undone.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

They kind of can't buy any competitors at this point. They got through this acquisition by the skin of their teeth and have to cool it, and after all that, I doubt this leads to a future where they've got a larger market share than PlayStation. There's also just far too much competition in the gaming space for them to approach a monopoly. Epic couldn't will their store into superiority over Steam, especially when they're not doing anything to solve problems for their customers, and Microsoft still has to make good products to get you to buy them too.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Eh, I'm not that hopeful. the FTC asked them questions but it was never really going to stop them. MS has the capital to buy Sony, if it was feasible to do so. I expect them to continue to buy stuff up until they are actually denied. They have the lawyers to throw at the government in perpetuity.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

That's far more cynical than I can meet you at, and it's probably why the merger isn't "opposed by everyone". Microsoft is already dancing right up to the line of antitrust, though I suspect that if they're broken up, the video game division remains in one piece, not several.

SigloPseudoMundo,

Fuck Sony, they’re even worse with exclusivity to the point of making hardware that’s difficult to port to and hard to design games for.

Sivick314,
@Sivick314@universeodon.com avatar

@Neato @Shatur @MelodiousFunk @BroBot9000 @SuiXi3D I mean, I would oppose it... but it turns out I hate acti-blizz leadership more than I fear Microsoft.

Black616Angel,

2069 - Disney acquires Microsoft. Doomguy and the Master Chief are now Disney princesses.

oce, do games w Cozy video games can quell stress and anxiety
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Damn, I didn’t know Reuters produced this kind of graphical article, it is really cool.

i_am_not_a_robot,
@i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk avatar

Just as a point of interest, it doesn’t work properly in the Android version of Firefox. Use Chrome.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Also a bit buggy in Firefox desktop on Linux.

fmstrat,

I switched to Reader Mode. So annoying.

impudentmortal, do games w Reuters: New research backs up that video games can be an antidote to stress and anxiety [interactive article]

Unless you play competitive online team games. Then your stress and anxiety go up even higher.

marine_mustang, do games w Electronic Arts to lay off 5% of workforce, reduce office spaces

The US isn’t in a recession, but all these big companies seem to think it’s high time we had another.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Been saying it since last year. The companies are so terrified of a recession that they’re going to cause one. The funny thing is that this time the market is actually trending up again. This time they just want their bonuses.

dumpsterlid,

What we all have to keep this laser centered in our minds when we talk about this is that for the ruling class, recessions are an essential part of the process of increasing their chokehold on society.

Capitalists want everything to periodically catastrophically collapse and go up in flames, without it the easily exploitable field of workers would grow into a mature forest with unions and other mechanisms that gradually grew in power to ensure the fruits of worker’s labor were distributed in a remotely fair way.

Make no mistake, they WANT a recession and honestly I think they are probably confused they haven’t been able to instigate the early arrival of one yet.

CitricBase, do games w Exclusive: Sony is in talks to buy Kadokawa, the media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring'

This would be massive, Kadokawa is a hell of a lot more than just Elden Ring. They’re one of the biggest media publishers in Japan. Books, manga, anime, games, you name it.

ReeferPirate, do gaming w Microsoft closes $69 billion Activision Blizzard deal after Britain's nod

New obsidian fallout when?

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

god i hope not. they would not make it right

for reference, almost nobody that was at obsidian for new vegas is still there, so its not going to be magically good

it’ll be a bug filled mess though thats for sure

TheDarkKnight,

Meh let the new kids take a crack at it. Not like the old guys from Obsidian are coming back.

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