There usually aren’t many complaints of something being woke if the product is actually good. I think the main takeaway is that nobody wants to be lectured, and told they are wrong for having a different opinion, and amateurish writing can easily come across as preachy or being a self-insert.
If that childish word salad sounds “preachy” to you, you need to go to a different preacher! Yours can’t even english.
How can this sound preachy to anybody? Has the fascist right lowered their own standard of education enough to where they think Marvel-style dialogue is normal?!
I will likely get downvoted into oblivion for saying this (as usual), and I will prelude by saying that I generally never care if there are gay, trans or whatever stuff in games. But transgenders and pronouns were never ever a thing in the Dragon Age franchise, and now they suddenly feature these so prominently. They just handled this very badly.
The fact that writing is generally just plain bad for this game, these inclusive options also seems to affect the rest of the game as well. And it indeed makes it look like they focused on the wrong narrative so much. The way Skill Up reviewed the game was perfect, his best summary was “it’s as if HR is standing in every room” or something along those lines. Like nobody is allowed to insult, or be insulted, in this franchise that used to be pretty dark and grim.
Every Dragon Age game has had pronouns because that’s how fucking language works. Your brain has just been poisoned by right-wing outrage over “pronouns”.
Also, “transgenders” isn’t a word. “Transgender” is an adjective, not a noun, not that I expect that to mean anything to someone who freaks out about “pronouns”.
I picked up Veilguard because I enjoyed Origins and Inquisition. The second game… at this point, I don’t think I took it right and its my problem and I need to give it another chance.
I’m still very early into the game, but the only “woke” thing I’ve seen so far is variable gender identity during character creation.
You want to play a “woman” who looks masculine, with atypical male traits, even a penis, and a deep voice? You know what, I’m glad the option is open to people. It doesn’t vibe with me personally, but I’m glad that people I care about can make a character that is “them,” because who hasn’t made themselves in an RPG at some point in their life, best they were able.
Again, I’m early to it, but that is all of the “woke” shit I’ve seen.
For the record, I have friends and family in the LGTBQ+(whatever, doesn’t matter) that I support.
I don’t want hate in my heart, and I’ve worked very hard to overcome some biases that came from my more “southern” upbringing. Hell, one of those biased views from the past is now openly trans, and I was the only family member they talked to because they couldn’t talk to anyone else.
I’m imperfect, as all humans are, but it isn’t hard to fucking TRY, just a little, to realize that someone else’s self image and happiness doesn’t affect mine other than what pronouns I use to refer to them. Fuck, its not hard. Just don’t be a dick.
Imho it’s marketing. The game is bad, writing is bad, gameplay is boring after a while, it seems (except for technical optimization) the game itself is a big mobile game. The “woke criticism” is exploited by ea to sell more, since it create engagement and hide the real flaws of the game
Never heard of this. It took me some time to even figure what their comments meant.
It’s almost comical to see how obsessed people are about this stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, the commercialization of minority themes and the preachy attitude can get annoying, but it’s hardly a dealbreaker if the gameplay and/or story are good.
Games are full of extremely stupid and lazy tropes.
That’s it. The Alan Wake 2 “race change” actually allows for some interesting links between Quantum Leap and the Alan Wake stories, but it was seen as a DEI situation. If a game is bad, it’s generally bad for reasons beyond DEI or wokeness.
Fextralife also mentions they host the most widely used DA:I wiki, they went through the effort of preserving the original Dragon Age forum threads from the Bioware forums prior to EA’s closure of them. They have a long history of being one of the central hosts of the largest community of Dragon Age enthusiasts, and longtime proponents of the Dragon Age series overall. When they expressed cautious optimism after the reveal trailer, their press contacts at EA went silent and they were not selected for an advance review code due to the risk of them being critical or not giving a high enough score to the game and dragging down the initial metacritic score.
Either way, if the company is worried about the perceived quality of the game, they wouldn’t have cherry picked favorable reviewers. It looks bad.
Can someone give me a rundown on why there‘s so much negativity revolving around this? I saw the review thread and it seemed to have scored quite a few good reviews. I‘m not informed regarding the matter at all, the last Bioware game I‘ve played was Dragon Age 2, so I‘m genuinely clueless.
Can someone give me a rundown on why there‘s so much negativity revolving around this?
First five minutes of SkillUp’s review is a good rundown. It seems like a mindless action clickathon with imitation of gameplay seen in better games, a safe sterile story and a large chunk of world design repurposed leftovers from someone’s abandoned Overwatch-but-DA ambitions.
edit: also, I note how reviews that peg this as a “return to form” are written and SkillUp’s has video to back his opinions and it looks pretty damning.
I don’t really know what to say about it at this point, but as I loved inquisition I’ll probably love this one. The best thing to do is wait for release and make your own opinion.
Never seen mortismal and I’ve only seen SkillUp a few times. I don’t really follow or need any review at release time, I’m not touching any game that’s 50€ or more until two years have passed and it’s in the vicinity of 75% off.
Massive drop off in sales shortly after release due to word of mouth about game being shit.
The game will sell well enough for Bioware, Reddit, Twitter, and ResetERA to say that the negative buzz around the game was just from incel chuds, but not well enough to be a massive success.
There will be very little DLC for the game, probably just cosmetic microtransactions and a small quest chain due to lack of sales.
Bioware once again limps away just barely escaping death due to mediocracy and a slow release month.
In recent years I’ve had mixed performance from Supermassive titles. The Quarry didn’t run well. The Devil In Me ran very well. I haven’t played the new companion game they made to Dead by Daylight, but the demo ran perfectly.
I got it for free in 2021 when they were doing the Play at Home initiative. Unfortunately, I’ve never liked it. I hate having to be sneaky and use ranged for combat. I just wanna run up and hit stuff with my stick.
I actually have it on my wishlist. One of those games I wanted to play eventually. Had it on my wishlist now. Certain actions by companies make me lose interest.
There’s enough good games out there. Can skip some based on company actions just fine.
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