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solsangraal, do games w Deus Ex devs say they weren't trying to make a statement when they made one of the most political games of all time: 'What I think is the right future for humanity is irrelevant. It's all about...'

in my late teens/early 20s this game made me aware of more conspiracy theories than i even imagined possible, and i loved it. amazing game. pretty cutting edge at the time, but it aged poorly gameplay-wise. none of the sequels came close for me. i’d buy a well-done faithful remake of this in a heartbeat

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I am just curious, what makes you say it has aged poorly in terms of gameplay? I would argue it holds up pretty well, but I am also a PC/KB+M only player. I strongly dislike UI/UX that has been compromised (from my perspective) for consoles/controllers.

Agreed regarding the sequels (haven’t played the fourth one, just the 2nd and 3rd sequel); they are OK, but not that special.

Coelacanth,
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I just finished Mankind Divided earlier this month. I think it has higher highs than Human Revolution but suffers from being the planned “middle game” in the trilogy. It has better gameplay than HR, some great levels and some really good side quests. Also a really well executed apartheid theme that played out really well.

I definitely recommend you playing it. It’s not gonna be OG Deus Ex, but it’s a good game.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I really need to play it. I am sure I would enjoy it. I thought Human Revolution and even Invisible War (with mods) were decent. Invisible War is fundamentally flawed due to the small maps though.

darthelmet,

A while ago I tried it out and I can concur on it feeling clunky. To each their own, but I just have a fairly low tolerance for games not feeling smooth to play. There are a lot of games I’ve dropped in less than an hour because it just didn’t feel good to play even if I might have liked some of the ideas or systems.

Agent_Karyo, (edited )
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

That’s totally fair.

I’ve played Deus Ex enough times that I sort of enjoy the clunky and RPG progression gunplay.

mbfalzar,

I played Deus Ex for the first time like, 6 months ago and it didn’t feel particularly clunky. It’s not great, but it’s perfectly okay, and I’m someone who plays with a controller at every possible opportunity and I think BG3 is a better experience on a controller, having tried it both ways

solsangraal, (edited )

i’m also a KB/M player, and to be honest it’s been several (many…? i don’t remember when) years since i’ve tried OG deus ex 1, and remember thinking damn this seems like a chore.

i might just need to give it another shot, with full awareness i’ll never get the same experience of playing through for the first time on windows 98.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I can see what you mean by saying guns are chore, it takes some time for them to be effective.

Try one of the mods, they greatly improve things compared for he baseline game (I haven’t played the baseline version in 15 years).

ProdigalFrog,

I’ve made multiple attempts to finish Deus Ex over the years after giving up each time due to aspects of the gameplay. I would normally never give a game so many shots, but I love so many aspects of Deus Ex, I want to finish it, but I just can’t push myself to continue at certain points.

I think the biggest blockers for me is I love stealth games (thief 1 & 2 are all time favorites), and since Deus Ex does have a stealth system (though primitive), I tried to play it like a stealth game. a vanilla install means that tranq darts make enemies run around like headless chickens for a minute, and knocking people out with the baton is unreliable. Combined, stealthing is both visually comical, and realistically very frustrating to play.

I could deal with that, and I’ve tried switching it up by going more guns blazing, but the gunplay of Deus Ex is just as clunky, with slow firing weapons that deal little damage on fairly bullet spongy enemies. Combat just doesn’t feel good.

I tried mods and overhauls to see if I could rectify either of those points, which do sorta work as a bandaid. GMDX makes stealth WAY more fun by making headshots with darts work instantly, and baton-ing more reliable. With it, I was able to get all the way to France without quitting, but I think due to GMDX, I hit a massive difficulty spike where my stealth build became much less viable, and it once again just became frustrating. Perhaps a gun-build with GMDX would’ve been the winning combo.

I think my best experience was with the Revision overhaul, but by then I had started the game over so many times over so many years, I just didn’t have the appetite to get all the way back to France.

It’s a truly spectacular game in terms of story and open-ended level design, but the mechanics really are a turn-off. I wish my first playthrough had been with the Revision overhaul (though I wish it didn’t radically change the level design so much), but even still, I think it would benefit from a Nightdive style remake.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I see. Yes, stealth is in a strange position where it’s difficult to use it full time. There are multiple missions/maps where you will eventually not be able to use stealth.

I can see what you mean regarding guns being clunky. They do get more effective as you level up and get better weapons. Early game gunplay is very iffy.

But I actually like the RPG approach to gunplay and how it forces you to try and avoid direct confrontation and use a mixture of stealth and combat.

That being said, these are all fair points.

I’ve actually never tried Revision. I only use GMDX. Should try it for next play through. i feel like I need to reinstall once I clear out a major deliverable for work. :)

ProdigalFrog, (edited )

I didn’t mind the RPG elements of the gunplay either, it was how lame all the guns felt to use even with higher skill levels.

The shotguns take way too many rounds to down people, the smgs are pea shooters, and pistols can work ‘okay’ with headshots, but still just feel meh. I assume the sniper rifle is more effective, but I never used it much.

I wish they had made it to where low skill makes reloading and accuracy suffer greatly, but if you do manage to score a hit, it hits hard. That would make shotguns in the early game super valuable, but they could’ve still encouraged stealth and more thoughtful tactics by limiting ammo availability.

Basically the RPG and story elements combined with Tarkov style gunplay and thief-style stealth would be heaven for me.

I’d be curious of your thoughts on revision, if you ever feel like coming back to this comment section by the time you finish it!

Agent_Karyo, (edited )
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I am a big user of sniper rifle + pistol combos. It works pretty well.

Will need to post a mini-review of Revision the next time I get to replay Deus Ex.

Coskii, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ah yes, young men. That notoriously healthcare obsesses group of individuals that do all they can to drain the system of all its funding. That’s the problem.

It’s a shame people actually fall for blatant lies like this.

BarneyPiccolo, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

The same old “welfare queen” argument again.

SocialMediaRefugee, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

What healthcare?

Imgonnatrythis,

I must have been playing too many video games cuz I totally missed out on the free Healthcare. Can I still get some of that?

SocialMediaRefugee,

Have you tried just eating food? Every time I do that in games it heals me. :P

gandalf_der_12te,

I heard golden carrots are the best at that, which you can get from the farmer for the low price of 1-2 emeralds.

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Instructions unclear, I smashed up all my walls but there was no food inside

technomad, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

What free healthcare because it sounds like I’ve been fucking doing it wrong this whole time holding down job after SHITTY job since I graduated high school and don’t have shit to show for it. Fuck all the way off attacking the one thing that brings joy to my life you disingenuous piece of shit.

jjjalljs, do games w RuneScape player pulls off a personal Shawshank Redemption: Grinds his way out of one-zone house arrest by grinding a raid 2,000 times over 10,000 hours: 'It was all worth it'

I guess everyone needs a hobby but this one sounds less rewarding to me than others.

PunnyName, do games w 10 years later, no one has replicated Rocket League's mojo

And I haven’t played it in 9 years either. Not going back.

pycorax, do games w Bungie confirms it stole art once again, will undertake a 'thorough review' of Marathon assets

Like they did so the past few times which still led to this happening again?

glitchdx, do games w Bungie confirms it stole art once again, will undertake a 'thorough review' of Marathon assets

Nobody has been able to explain to me how this new game has fucking anything to do with Marathon.

blargle,

Does it even have Pfhor in it…?

Duamerthrax,

This is just parading a corpse around. Glad I never got into Destiny.

funkless_eck, (edited )

I did. Luckily there were points where it was shit enough to be able to leave without looking back.

I beat The Black Heart, Atheon, Crota, Oryx, Siva, Xol, Ghaul, Calus, Riven, Nezerac, Savathun, and The Witness, plus AlakHul, Atraks, Sepiks, Taniks, the Forsaken Baron, a bunch of Vex Gatelords and Overminds… I rediscovered 3 Dark Subclasses plus a fourth Light one and then merged them, I became an Iron Lord, a Dregden and went to Osiris’ Lighthouse in D1 and D2, healed the Traveller (twice), I witnessed my own funeral in the Corridors of Time, bringing back Saint 14, I saved and killed Rasputin and Prince/Crow, became Taken and beat Sword Logic, Vex Simulations, and Nightmares themselves: including the real world that’s four entire realities I conquered and I communed with The Long Boi In The Soup. I saw the whole story through. Anything that happens now is of lesser concern, so I can leave.

For me the big mistake started with the Dreaming City: when the world first raid changed the game for other players- I wasn’t the main character any more and canonically all the raids and boss fights after that were done by other players, and mine (canonically even!) just fantasized about it pretending I was there. Even in the very last fight against the Witness, canonically, I was just one of hundreds of thousands in a faceless army that defeated it together.

FunkyElectro,
@FunkyElectro@pawb.social avatar

They’re just stripping copper from the walls.

grrgyle,

Fucking spot on analogy

RightHandOfIkaros,

Its attached to the name because:

  1. No creatives at Bungie can come up with an original idea apparently
  2. Bungie believes the name alone will carry it (it wont)
rickyrigatoni, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

Literally just No Man’s Sky but worse.

finitebanjo, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

According to SEC filings, Take Two Interactive studio made 2.241 Billion USD profit in 2024.

Squizzy,

Did they release anything of note in 2024? Presumably the annual slog2k sports.

finitebanjo,

Yes, in fact the report specifically mentions that NBA 2k24 outperformed expectations. Other than that they’re probably earning passively off of older titles and GTA V microtransactions.

LostWanderer, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

ROFL the more games go $80 to 90 dollars for a base game version, the more I wait for sales. 70 dollars was bad enough in my opinion, but this greed fueled jump is going to put off more potential buyers than it will bring in. It’s my genuine hope that this blows up in their face and will force them to price games reasonably again. Perhaps if the money they made in sales wasn’t mostly funneled into their overpaid CEOs and shareholders, perhaps they’d have more money to cover development costs and keep game prices stable. Sounds like a personal problem to me.

SweetCitrusBuzz, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

[sarcasm] Who could have ever seen it coming? [/sarcasm]

Honestly, the writing was on the wall for a long time, it had no clear business model and was a mess. It was always going to go this way and I tried pointing out that it was a bad platform but nobody either cared or believed me. Whelp, looks like I was a Cassandra yet again.

Hope Open Source people can make something to fill the gap, there really is nothing else (yet). Matrix really doesn’t have the features and that which it does have is often bad UX and doesn’t work everywhere. Not seen anything else which will fill the gap and I’ve been looking but I guess nobody thought discord would go down, go this way, or just don’t really know how to make something that would fill the gap, or didn’t want to.

hark, do games w 'Oh god': There's a buried Steam help page that shows how much money you've ever spent on the platform, and you may not want to know
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Seems some are confusing the third party estimator with the official page. This is the official page: help.steampowered.com/en/…/AccountSpend

Nalivai,

The official page shows the money you’ve spent, the estimator shows the current price of the games on your account, adjusted to everything. For me the difference is X4

timestatic,

No, the article specifically mentions on how to get to this site from the steam client.

Kazumara,

Yeah but the article links the steamdb calulator twice and the actual steam page not at all. Freaking weird.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Ex-PlayStation exec argues 'only the dog can hear' differences between consoles and gaming PCs: 'They're all quite similar'

Hahahahahahaha…ahh hahaha

… Oh wait he’s serious? Get f u c k Ed

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