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atlasraven31, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

But it doesn’t have to be a once in a decade thing. We can drop a great RPG or even a good shooter every couple years.

nyctre,

I meant … it’s not. There have been 3 larian games in the last 9 years, and all 3 have been great. And they’re not the only good games or RPGs. So the title is just the usual click bait crap

atlasraven31,

I played Divine Divinity some when it was released. It was interesting but clunky. It was no Neverwinter Nights.

I want to see us as gamers get away from sequelitis and get full games again without lock boxes or cash shops or battle passes. The excitement of Doom or Battlefield 2 or Elden Ring.

verysoft,

Wont happen. Average consumer consumes without thought for the larger picture, theres a reason we got to this point, people are suckers and buy it all, the most recent trap they willingly jump into is "pre order for X days early access", I will never understand.

atlasraven31,

Some games like Factorio and BattleBit are worth buying in early access

verysoft,

Early access as in still in development, sure some are, but that is not what I was talking about. It's preorder our finished game (and/or buy a 'deluxe' edition) and get the game 'early' before its release date. Reality is, its just a delayed release for smarter consumers.

Lojcs,

And that’s bad, how? If other people were able to play it early you know it wasn’t finished the day before release and can read reviews before buying.

verysoft,

How is that not bad? It's preying on people to soak up more money. If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development vs spending extra to play a game a few days early, then the sun might as well be the moon.
I wouldnt recommend buying games in early access either, especially if they are not discounted. If done properly theres no malice in a company asking for funds as you join the development process of a game. Whereas asking for more money to simply play a game 3 days before its official release with no other differences to the game is just predatory, abusing people excitement and hype to squeeze every last penny out where they can. Keep in mind its the multimillion or multibillion dollar companies pulling this, not your indie studios who are the ones who usually use the in dev early access program.

Lojcs,

If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development

I didn’t say anything about development.

If people want to spend money to play a game early that’s their choice. Just because it’s not something you wouldn’t do doesn’t mean it has no value to anyone. If anything it provides value to the people who aren’t going to buy the game blind on release date (unless the company postpones the release date to make room for early access I guess). Plus the dev has a chance to find and fix bugs before most people start playing.

Also is there a specific game you’re talking about? I’ve only seen games get more expensive after early access, not less.

verysoft,

I imagine the term Early Access is causing confusion here.

I am not talking about the Steam Early Access program, where developers can get some early funding of their game and community feedback on the game during development. I have no issue with this program if it used correctly, which it is mostly. Games generally do get more expensive when leaving yes, as most developers recognise that charging people full price for an unfinished game is unfair.

What I was referring to is different, the early access I am referring to is a recent marketing strategy, generally used to make people spend more money on 'deluxe' editions of video games.
The most recent example would be Starfield, Bethesda are offering a 'Premium Edition' which costs almost 50% more than the base game, it contains some art and soundtrack along with some skins (I won't rant about that right now, but come on...), but it's main selling point being the '5 days early access' to the game. The game releases officially on 6th September, but if you purchase this 'Premium Edition' you can play the game on the 1st September instead.
This is what I have issue with and it is a horrible new practice that many of these multi-billion dollar companies are pulling to try and get more money from people. I understand it's ultimately the choice of the consumer to buy this, but it is preying on their hype and excitement for a game to make them fork over more money that they otherwise would not do.

It's sad to see. Games used to just have a standard price, you paid it got a full game and off you went, now there's all these special editions with extra bullshit attached in an attempt to milk consumers. You should absolutely be against these practices.

srecko,

New harry potter is one example, where if you had deluxe version, you could play the game 3 days before the official release.

Bluescluestoothpaste,

I think they meant DOS 1 & 2

deweydecibel, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

I said it once before but this is exactly the game that needed to come out after Final Fantasy 16, and Dragon Age Dreadwolf’s bullshit is going to look even worse in this game’s shadow. Just to shut up the think pieces and comment sections that claim RPGs becoming God of War clones is somehow the only “modern” direction to take them.

tallwookie, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

because it’s a good game, or because they didnt go the DLC route?

Kichae,

Because they sold a whole bunch of copies.

utopianrevolt,

all of the above

sugar_in_your_tea,

It turns out, if you make a good game, it’ll probably sell well.

shrugal,

Yes

people_are_cute,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Because people don’t currently have many options among new games.

verysoft, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

Well DOS2 came out 6 years ago, so hardly once in a decade.

nicktron,
@nicktron@kbin.social avatar

What’s DOS2?

Elegast,
@Elegast@lemmy.ca avatar

Divinity original sin 2 id assume. Great game as well by Larian.

scottywh,

Interesting that it didn’t gain similar notoriety then.

theragu40,

I think the Baldurs Gate name/brand carries a ton of weight still. Lots of people are nostalgic for it because it was a formative game of the 90s.

Bandananaan,

I think bg3 is also a lot easier to get into than dos 1 and 2. Having actual cut scenes and voice acting for everything goes a long way in making the game immersive. I also feel its easier to get into the combat (though that may just be me having got used to dos beforehand)

theragu40,

I’m really looking forward to playing it (I’ve promised myself to fully beat TotK before I pick it up). I played a ton of BG 1 and 2 when I was a kid and even for me they are hard to pick back up now. A slightly more accessible version of that sounds amazing.

Bandananaan,

I tried playing bg 1 and 2 about 10 years ago. I put about 40 hours in between them and enjoyed it, but I found it tough going. I’ve found bg3 way easier to get into and have already far surpassed the hours I put into the original games. On top of what I’ve already mentioned, the change to fully turn based is a huge improvement on that weird pausable real time used in the previous games

theragu40,

I’m really excited to hear that. The real time but actually not combat I think is what really killed me when I played them. I was only like 15 years old but I think I just didn’t “get” it and tried to just go for it in real time which made many encounters incredibly difficult.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

IMO it didn’t have an engaging start. The joke/parody concept also scratches s different itch.

RegularGoose,

6 years ago was a different decade.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

I found that game wasn’t 8% as engaging or interesting to.me

verysoft,

As BG3? Its the same formula, just different lore and combat.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

I just didn’t like it

qwertyWarlord, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

Hey if we can have several one in a decade world events happening in a short timespan, surely we can get some good games too

Bishma, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It scratches the same itch that has led me to buy Skyrim at least 3 times (PS3, PC, and Switch)

thrashpipe, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

This game has taken me back to my Mass Effect days. I’m so glad I checked this game out, and I’ve enjoyed almost every minute I’ve played.

kalistia,

You should try divinity next :D

thrashpipe,

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll add it to my list.

misterfenskers, do games w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

First story driven game to fully immerse me since New Vegas. I’m about 15 hours deep and I’m not even scratching the surface.

Durotar,
@Durotar@lemmy.ml avatar

That sounds like I should take a look.

theywilleatthestars, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”

Hell yeah

arudesalad, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”

This is the best thing nintendo have ever said

qooqie,

They’ve also said “wahoo” and that’s been a general hit I think

SuckMyWang,

Hell yeah

DragonTypeWyvern,

Hyaa!

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

“Said” being the operative word. Talk is just talk. I predict that if any union-forming attempt is made, Bowser’s opinion will change with frame perfect accuracy and this statement will be memory holed. (Although unionization of Nintendo employees is unlikely to happen in Japan anyway. If it does, it will more probably be within their American or European subsidiaries.)

We should remember that Nintendo is a privately held, for-profit company run by Japanese people. They have their own ethic, the company belongs to them, and profit comes first. They might make video games and franchises we like, but they are not good guys. There is tons of well documented past behavior on their part that illustrates this in many ways.

LethargyTheGhost,

Why? It’s obligatory, it’s literally the law. It’s also against the law to say the opposite. The best thing they’ve ever said is a bunch of nothing?

WoahWoah,

Well, no, it’s not obligatory to freely state it in an interview. That being said, I understand what you mean.

arudesalad,

I meant that this is something that not many other companies would say. And it doesn’t matter if it’s the law, big companies still prevent it from happening.

altima_neo, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Bowsers not such a bad guy after all!

SeaJ,

I swear they picked that guy because of his name.

c0mbatbag3l, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

You are, however, NOT allowed to emulate Pokemon Red/Blue on your Android phone. That’s “frowned upon.”

GrayBoltWolf,
@GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world avatar

“Now buy our games running in an emulator from the online Switch store”

kautau,

No, subscribe to our monthly service to play our games

hakase,

This is why I play multiplayer games exclusively on PC nowadays.

Sidewayshighways,

Yeah my cousin got me into emulation back in like 2002 and it opened up the whole world of games I could never get my hands on.

Though I do be hackin stuff too tho.

EvolvedTurtle,

Cries in Splatoon Fr tho what’s up with it’s servers Or more specifically the lack of

Perroboc,

That you will only be able to play in one console generation

alphapuggle, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”
@alphapuggle@programming.dev avatar

The large Mario thumbnail prevents me from reading the quote in anything but his voice

HobbitFoot,

No, you should say it in Bowser’s voice. After all, Bowser led a revolution to throw off the yoke of a monarchy only to be thwarted by an army of foreign nationals.

False,

Apparently I’m not up on my Mario lore

shasta,

Peach is a princess. Mario is Italian.

SeaJ,

Bowser is also a monarchist. He is Bowser, King of the Koopas.

moosetwin, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Everyone has a right to form a union, but if you do you’re fired.

mojo, do games w Nintendo of America President: “Everyone Has the Right To Form a Union”

It’s literally against the law to state otherwise.

zaphod,
@zaphod@lemmy.ca avatar

Beat me to it. Here’s the quote in context:

I think we’re on the right path in terms of ensuring we’ve got a work environment and culture that allows people to be productive, to have balance in their lives, and to grow within the company. Everyone has the right to form a union, and certainly in the future, wherever it takes us, we’ll respect that. But we’re very much focused right now on how to create the best work culture and environment we possibly can.

We’re always listening to our workers and we want to make sure we have both formal and informal ways of getting worker feedback and understanding the needs of our employees and where we can improve. And we always act on that feedback. And, as I said earlier, there is always a right to form unions and we respect that.

Well, yeah, congrats, he basically just stated the law: yes, everyone (in the US and many other countries) has the right to form unions. To “respect that” is to acknowledge that right.

I know the bar is damn low for good corporate behaviour, but man, it’s apparently way lower than I realized…

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