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shneancy, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds

one of my top favourite games of all time! And one of the two narrative experiences on that list that I can’t talk about with the “uninitiated” (other is Inscryption)

if you like space, and you like thinking - don’t look up anything about this game. Watch maybe 5 minutes of some gameplay if you’re hesitant.

Though a word of warning, this is a game that’ll take all of your focus, it’s very hard to play it with a YouTube video or a movie in playing the background. And yes the ship movement can feel clunky at first, you’ll get used to it don’t worry - the story is worth it

MurrayL, (edited )

In my experience, if people are going to bounce off the game it’ll come down to one (or more) of three reasons:

  • They hate the flight controls
  • They hate the feeling of being on a constant timer
  • They hate the lack of explicit direction in what to do next

It’s one of my favourite games of all time, and it has good reasons for all of the above, but it’s definitely not for everyone!

And for anyone wondering, my counterpoints to the above would be:

  • Learn to use the autopilot but don’t trust it; learning to manoeuvre precisely will come over time
  • Don’t overthink the timer element; pick just one thing to investigate and focus on that, anything else is a bonus
  • Use the ship’s computer and follow the unknowns; avoid walkthroughs unless you’re absolutely 100% stumped on what to do next
shneancy, (edited )

in my experience as a impatient person you simply need to make peace with the timer, it stings at first but then- i think thanks to Outer Wilds i can play souls likes now ::: spoiler because it shows clearly how death is simply a part of the learning experience, it’s not a failure :::

i have no idea if this spoiler is working

Skua,

It is working for me, at least. The spoilered text is a good summary of the idea too

Katana314,

Whether or not it’s a failure, it’s a waste of time. Imagine if a relaxed open world game constantly interrupted you with cutscenes of your character falling over, slowly waking up, and trudging back to where they fell.

shneancy,

it’s not supposed to be a relaxing open world game though?

it’s the mystery of the entire game, why is this happening? how do i stop it? It’s also the basis of all main mechanics in the game, the entire world is on the clock, some things aren’t available at the start or become unavailable as the clock ticks. It’s not a pointless gimmick, it serves both a narrative and a mechanical purpose

Katana314,

But there HAVE been other games based around time loops that manage to avoid that frustration, for instance by letting you manually restart the loop yourself in a quick way, or giving other starting points.

Famous examples include Majora’s Mask, The Sexy Brutale, and others. I understand Outer Wilds tries to hold the trappings of its story around the loop being more sci-fi than magic/fantasy in nature, but that’s still a goal of the writers to wrap the rules of the world around mechanics that are fun to play.

I can even think of many games that gave themselves minor plotholes and odd exceptions to the “world rules” just so that the player could get through it more conveniently.

MurrayL,

You can manually restart in OW - it’s an ability you can learn from one of the characters you meet.

JigglySackles,

I have a friend who stopped for a whole other reason. But I can’t talk about it without revealing too much. But basically had to do with bramble and deep, things that don’t bother most people much, triggering some actual phobias.

SimplyTadpole,
@SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I dealt with that too, sadly. Thankfully there is a mod that can alleviate it. (I’d link it but it’d also reveal spoilers…)

JigglySackles,

Nice, I’ll have to look those up for him. I keep trying to talk him into trying again.

MvPts, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds

This game is a Masterpiece!

LMagicalus, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds
@LMagicalus@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I had the solution to the main game spoiled for me YEARS ago. I have the game sitting on an external hard drive, just waiting for my brain to forget.

kksgandhi,

The game is magical even with that one spoiler. Hell, I’d go so far as to say the puzzles aren’t even as important as the themes and story.

You should definitely play it!

Joelk111,

I have beat the game. I remember the gist of the solution, but I have no idea how to pull it off any more. I can’t wait to play it again, possibly with the VR mod.

Klanky, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds
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I played this game and loved it but never finished it. I feel like I was either too dumb to figure out what to do next, or I could tell what I needed to do but couldn’t maneuver my ship/character well enough. Total skill issue on my part, though I intend to dive back in at some point.

Voroxpete,

Read a walkthrough if you have to. The ending is 10,000% worth experiencing, even if you need a little help to get there.

In fact, getting to the end with help from strangers actually feels more in keeping with the themes of the game.

ThunderWhiskers,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Definitely this. It’s pretty easy to lookup exactly where you are and find mostly spoiler free walkthroughs or sometimes even hints. IIRC there are a few spots that a lot of people got hung up on.

This game is too good not to finish.

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

Your ship computer shows hints and places you haven’t fully explored. Alternatively you could say where you are and helpful internet people can give you a nudge.

Klanky,
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

I know, like I said I was too dumb to figure out exactly what to do when I got there :-). I definitely plan on diving back in, though.

lazycouchpotato,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

On the same boat.

I definitely want to go back and complete it some day.

kksgandhi,

The Outer Wilds community is very helpful. Just post where you’re stuck and people will give you hints without spoilers!

boaratio, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds

When I got echoes of the eye, I was confused as to how to play it. Once I figured it out, my mind was blown for a second time. I wish, as others have said, I could re-experience this game.

domi,
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I still remember how confused I was when story DLC was announced for a game which I considered to be complete story wise.

Turns out the story was not complete.

Thorry84, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds

If I could erase any game from my mind and experience it again for the first time, it would be this game. One of my favorites of all time.

Voroxpete,

When you do, please leave yourself a note reminding you to send me the mind eraser afterwards.

samus12345,
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TheDemonBuer, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds
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One of the many games just sitting in my steam library, waiting to be played.

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

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  • EddoWagt,

    I still wish I didn’t watch a playthrough

    UnfairUtan,

    My condolences

    Nibodhika,

    Someone told me the same thing, I started playing it but forgot about it, would need to restart it.

    calabast,

    I’ll give you $10,000 to swap brains with you so I can play it for the first time again 😄

    naticus,

    A friend begged me to play this and I just didn’t for a couple years despite owning it. Once I finally did it quickly became an all-time favorite. You should fix this yourself.

    dinckelman,

    This is one of the best games I have ever played. I know this phrase goes around every day, but I wholeheartedly mean it.

    This is the type of game you can only place once, and the experience is incomparable to much of anything else

    Voroxpete,

    At first, the game will not make sense. But somewhere around the 20 minute mark (it varies depending on what you do) you will encounter The Event. It will happen. You will know it has happened. It will be, unmistakably, The Event. Nothing else could be The Event. Nothing else could possibly be as momentous as The Event. And then you will have your first real understanding of what the game is about, and it will be very, very exciting.

    After that happens, look at the computer in the back of your ship (to the right as you enter). For the rest of the game this will be your most important tool. You’ll understand why. Once it happens.

    Have fun.

    EddoWagt,

    But somewhere around the 20 minute mark (it varies depending on what you do) you will encounter The Event. It will happen. You will know it has happened. It will be, unmistakably, The Event. Nothing else could be The Event.

    I love explanations like this, at first you don’t know what it might be, so anything could be the event, is this the event? No, is that the event? Also no. And then you come across the event and you just know, yes, that’s the event

    growsomethinggood,

    If you’re particularly clever, you might see something before the event that makes you go, huh, that seems weird, I wonder why that is. And then the event happens and you’re like, ohh, it was the event! It was telling me the whole time!

    8000gnat, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds

    yuuuus

    Setiyeti93, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds

    My favourite lets player has finally picked this up. I will neverbe able to experience it fresh ever again… So watching others is the closest I’ll ever get.

    tekila,

    After playing this game I watched so many streams and let’s play of it. I enjoyed seeing how people did it differently than me.

    I also convinced my partner to play it on Christmas as my gift for me to watch. (They were instantly hooked)

    This is one on my favorite games ever

    sylveon,

    It’s so much fun to watch other people figure things out. It’s the closest we can get to playing the game again.

    Setiyeti93,

    My partner tried to play…

    But sadly they struggle with that"platforming" mostly Brittle Hollow

    tekila,

    I personally brute forced it with my space ship!

    recursive_recursion, (edited )
    @recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

    vicariously watching others play is our only solution now unfortunately

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    Which Let’s Player? I’m always looking for new ones I’ll like.

    Setiyeti93,

    A YouTuber by the name of Kikoskia. Just started

    I have previously really enjoyed a play through by a YouTuber by the name of Welomz which is long complete.

    Let me know if you try either

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    Welonz is one of the best Let’s Players out there so you have good taste. I’ll check out Kikoskia.

    PaupersSerenade, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds
    @PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works avatar

    There’s a really well done VR mod for this game. It’s actually the only way I’ve played it so far. If you can run Steam VR I highly recommend it! I had to do a reinstall of some stuff so haven’t finished the game yet, but it’s been high on my ‘to-do list’.

    Wrufieotnak,

    Yes it is wonderful, especially floating in space and just drifting. But be aware, certain parts are… intense in VR.

    Cocodapuf,

    Yeah, I bet there are some fishy sequences.

    subignition,
    @subignition@piefed.social avatar

    Oh shit. I'm bookmarking this. I might have to set up my Vive Pro again after so many years...

    ShinkanTrain,

    Sounds like the pukiest VR game yet. I’m in.

    recursive_recursion, do games w Today's featured article on Wikipedia: Outer Wilds
    @recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

    one of the best games of all time🙏

    if you haven’t played please don’t spoil yourself as The Outer Wilds is an incredible and enjoyable journey that many and I wish to experience for the first time again

    this is a game classified in the legendary status

    fellow mods; if possible I’d like to personally request a pin for silverchase’s post

    driving_crooner, do gaming w TIL about Bomba Patch, a series of Brazilian mods for Pro Evolution Soccer for the PS2 that, for a number of years, were more popular than the official FIFA games.
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    In Colombia we had a version of PES that had the colombian teams. It was just the international teams, but with the skin colors of ther uniforms and names of the players changed.

    theangriestbird,

    I wonder why PES specifically is so popular for this? I think it has something to do with PS2’s being able to play burned discs without needing a hardware mod, but i’m not 100% sure.

    driving_crooner,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    Playstation gained a lot of popularity on latinamerica for being able to be pirated, and PES and Winning Eleven before it, were way better football games than Fifa. I remember the first time playing them after years of Fifa and feeling the field huge, but then you would back to Fifa to feel like your playing mini football. And that huge field made it more about passing the ball to advance, while in Fifa you could rush from the center of the field and easily took a shoot and mark, more alike a basketball game.

    thingsiplay,

    They were much more tactical and had better controls too, visually and audio better and just more polished. The PES series (before they renamed it from ISS) were just the better games back then. I started with International Superstar Soccer Deluxe on the SNES and wasn’t even a big sports fan. But got obsessed (well not that extreme maybe) with this game. And then the Nintendo 64 followup International Superstar Soccer 64 was phenomenal! Everyone compared it to FIFA 64 and it was clear and cut which game was better for the majority. I’ve played PES98 on original PSX too.

    Today, people can’t understand how good these games were back then compared to any other football/soccer game at that time.

    CaptainBasculin,

    Many people including me consider PES 2007 as the best football game ever released. Even current new football games doesn’t give the same vibes as playing that game.

    CrypticCoffee, (edited )

    That era was peak Pro Evo.

    lupec,

    As a Brazilian who grew up in a not too remote area, modchipped PS2s were everywhere growing up, as it was the only realistic option to game for the vast majority. Things have shifted a bit these days, but it did use to be like that.

    As a result, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legit PS2 game or an og Xbox/GameCube for that matter lol.

    Candelestine, do kbinMeta w You can be the one to create the kbin page on wikipedia

    There wasn’t a lot of good source material to use a couple months ago. I’m unsure if that has changed, but it might’ve. It’s a prerequisite for writing a good wikipedia article, at any rate, as opposed to a shitty one.

    You’re not allowed to write your own telling of the story on there, you have to copy other people’s and cite them. So a lot of other people need to have written on it, from a position of being a reliable source, before a quality wikipedia article can be written.

    Though a small, mediocre article can be better than no article, if you’re giving someone a good framework to improve on later, as more sources develop.

    JackbyDev,

    There’s been a lot of articles about the recent Reddit drama or whatever you want to call it. I’m sure some of them have mentioned Lemmy and Kbin!

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    And also bear in mind that if someone writes a crappy enough kbin article now and it gets deleted, that's going to make it harder to get a kbin article started again in the future. I know that's not how it's supposed to work in principle but unfortunately it's how it works in practice.

    0x1C3B00DA,
    @0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social avatar

    Pleroma still doesn't have a wikipedia article because of this, despite being one of the oldest AP-enabled fediverse services. It's been deleted twice because some moderator didn't like the quality or number of sources.

    density,
    @density@kbin.social avatar

    @FaceDeer oh that's interesting. do you know why?

    magic_lobster_party,

    Wikipedia doesn’t like articles that are basically ads. Articles should be written from an unbiased standpoint using independent sources. If an article has been removed because it’s basically self promotion, then mods will be more careful about reopening it again.

    euphoria, do kbinMeta w You can be the one to create the kbin page on wikipedia
    @euphoria@kbin.social avatar

    i just took a look at what it takes to write a wiki article, and it is extensive (rightfully so). anyone who plans on trying this, please be prepared to have sources prepared, be unbiased, be a good writer, and more.

    fartsinger,

    Let's just have ChatGPT do it.

    Pamasich,

    ChatGPT is going to get you rejected for made up sources for sure.

    some_guy, do scifi w John Jacob Astor IV, lost in the Titanic, wrote 'A Journey in Other Worlds' - a scifi novel in 1894

    A True Story was written in the second century.

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