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driving_crooner, do gaming w TIL about Bomba Patch, a series of Brazilian mods for Pro Evolution Soccer for the PS2 that, for a number of years, were more popular than the official FIFA games.
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In Colombia we had a version of PES that had the colombian teams. It was just the international teams, but with the skin colors of ther uniforms and names of the players changed.

theangriestbird,

I wonder why PES specifically is so popular for this? I think it has something to do with PS2’s being able to play burned discs without needing a hardware mod, but i’m not 100% sure.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Playstation gained a lot of popularity on latinamerica for being able to be pirated, and PES and Winning Eleven before it, were way better football games than Fifa. I remember the first time playing them after years of Fifa and feeling the field huge, but then you would back to Fifa to feel like your playing mini football. And that huge field made it more about passing the ball to advance, while in Fifa you could rush from the center of the field and easily took a shoot and mark, more alike a basketball game.

thingsiplay,

They were much more tactical and had better controls too, visually and audio better and just more polished. The PES series (before they renamed it from ISS) were just the better games back then. I started with International Superstar Soccer Deluxe on the SNES and wasn’t even a big sports fan. But got obsessed (well not that extreme maybe) with this game. And then the Nintendo 64 followup International Superstar Soccer 64 was phenomenal! Everyone compared it to FIFA 64 and it was clear and cut which game was better for the majority. I’ve played PES98 on original PSX too.

Today, people can’t understand how good these games were back then compared to any other football/soccer game at that time.

CaptainBasculin,

Many people including me consider PES 2007 as the best football game ever released. Even current new football games doesn’t give the same vibes as playing that game.

CrypticCoffee, (edited )

That era was peak Pro Evo.

lupec,

As a Brazilian who grew up in a not too remote area, modchipped PS2s were everywhere growing up, as it was the only realistic option to game for the vast majority. Things have shifted a bit these days, but it did use to be like that.

As a result, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legit PS2 game or an og Xbox/GameCube for that matter lol.

Candelestine, do kbinMeta w You can be the one to create the kbin page on wikipedia

There wasn’t a lot of good source material to use a couple months ago. I’m unsure if that has changed, but it might’ve. It’s a prerequisite for writing a good wikipedia article, at any rate, as opposed to a shitty one.

You’re not allowed to write your own telling of the story on there, you have to copy other people’s and cite them. So a lot of other people need to have written on it, from a position of being a reliable source, before a quality wikipedia article can be written.

Though a small, mediocre article can be better than no article, if you’re giving someone a good framework to improve on later, as more sources develop.

JackbyDev,

There’s been a lot of articles about the recent Reddit drama or whatever you want to call it. I’m sure some of them have mentioned Lemmy and Kbin!

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

And also bear in mind that if someone writes a crappy enough kbin article now and it gets deleted, that's going to make it harder to get a kbin article started again in the future. I know that's not how it's supposed to work in principle but unfortunately it's how it works in practice.

0x1C3B00DA,
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Pleroma still doesn't have a wikipedia article because of this, despite being one of the oldest AP-enabled fediverse services. It's been deleted twice because some moderator didn't like the quality or number of sources.

density,
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@FaceDeer oh that's interesting. do you know why?

magic_lobster_party,

Wikipedia doesn’t like articles that are basically ads. Articles should be written from an unbiased standpoint using independent sources. If an article has been removed because it’s basically self promotion, then mods will be more careful about reopening it again.

euphoria, do kbinMeta w You can be the one to create the kbin page on wikipedia
@euphoria@kbin.social avatar

i just took a look at what it takes to write a wiki article, and it is extensive (rightfully so). anyone who plans on trying this, please be prepared to have sources prepared, be unbiased, be a good writer, and more.

fartsinger,

Let's just have ChatGPT do it.

Pamasich,

ChatGPT is going to get you rejected for made up sources for sure.

some_guy, do scifi w John Jacob Astor IV, lost in the Titanic, wrote 'A Journey in Other Worlds' - a scifi novel in 1894

A True Story was written in the second century.

JowlesMcGee, do scifi w John Jacob Astor IV, lost in the Titanic, wrote 'A Journey in Other Worlds' - a scifi novel in 1894
@JowlesMcGee@kbin.social avatar

John Jacob Astor IV (July 13, 1864 – April 15, 1912) was an American business magnate, real estate developer, investor, writer, lieutenant colonel in the Spanish–American War, and a prominent member of the Astor family.

Probably explains why the description of the book sounds like American power fantasy. Interesting to hear of sci-fi from so long ago though.

Xariphon, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

I have wanted to play in a game of this since I first heard about it, but I've never managed to find a group for it.

HotChickenFeet,

I’ve only just started looking myself, but theres agora online

agoranomic.org/index.html (the hamburger menu has a how to play option)

Also: blognomic.com

bh11235, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

Back in high school we played a game of this on the occasional Thursday night, as well as one long term game that took months and had its own dedicated wiki. It got pretty surreal pretty quick. The one set day a month you got penalized for each time you used a foreign loanword was brutal.

ICastFist,
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The one set day a month you got penalized for each time you used a foreign loanword was brutal.

Sounds like the perfect way to get all your friends rippling with muscles

averyminya, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

That’s interesting, Disgaea has a similar mechanic present in its game called the Dark Assembly, where you basically either bribe or kill the senators to make them vote with you.

navigatron, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

The game of Mao begins now.

Even more unusual variants include […] a game which, instead of allowing voting on rules, splits into two sub-games, one with the rule, and one without it.

This sounds insane and delightful

aMockTie, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

This seems super interesting and I’ve never heard of it before. Thanks for sharing!

Is this more of a table top game? I’d be interested to see it as a kind of MMO.

jarfil,

It’s more of a mailing list or forum game, where you can check on the state of the rules at any time.

It can be played as tabletop, but that involves a lot of handwriting, and who’s got time for that in 2023?

ICastFist,
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Someone to act as the writer while the rest of the group debates and votes should work. Imagine people then fighting over to make rules such that the writer may never type in specific words!

jarfil,

That’s doable… if you make it a rule!

In my experience, the game tends to get very “meta” very quickly. Someone could add a rule that “nobody write down the rules”, unless you had the “person X writes down the rules” as an immutable rule, so the moment someone wants to make it mutable… beware!

BudgieMania, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

This sounds like something that would be played on The Genius, I'm all for it

Jinxyface, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

That concept immediately makes me think of the card game Fluxx.

Xariphon, (edited )

I learned to play Fluxx from Andy Loony years ago. Awesome guy, funny as hell. Now I wanna find my old decks...

Edit: You ever make any Fluxx Blanks?

Alleywurds, do gaming w Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen
@Alleywurds@kbin.social avatar

Yeah! Without knowing of Nomic, I designed a TTRPG about gods creating the universe by writing the rules of the game they're playing.

It's kinda like nomic as an RPG. Free here if you'd like to take a peek: https://alleywurds.itch.io/eroding-the-outside-a-game-of-gods

emeralddawn45, do gaming w Hook an old FPS gamer up. Anyone else fondly miss "assassin mode" from Soldier of Fortune (2000)?

Didn’t halo 2 have an assassin mode? It’s been a long time since I’ve played but I think I remember it being similar to what you described.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

That's in the category of "new" titles that I missed. (Loved the first Halo though) Anyone still playing 2? I may have too check it out if so.

Gargleblaster, do gaming w Hook an old FPS gamer up. Anyone else fondly miss "assassin mode" from Soldier of Fortune (2000)?
@Gargleblaster@kbin.social avatar

That game...had brutal hit boxes. You could blow people's legs off. I played a lotta pvp but not that mode.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I do remember the gore being substantial, but I feel like the gore was a bigger focus back then than in many of the modern games.

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