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Sterile_Technique, (edited ) do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Iirc (edit - apparently incorrect) Halo was the first to use left joystick as forward/backward and left/right strafe; and right joystick as look up/down and pivot left/right.

I even recall articles counting it as a point against the game due to its ‘awkward controls’ …but apparently after a tiny learning curve, the entire community/industry got on board.

acosmichippo, (edited )
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

I thought goldeneye had that basic controls concept a few years before. and Turok was pretty close before that.

edit: ah forgot n64 only had one joystick. but basically the same with the left d-pad and middle joystick.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I think you are right, but the N64 controls used the C buttons as analog inputs for camera movement.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

If we're talking Goldeneye, I believe the C-button aiming was an alternate control scheme. IIRC, the default controls had the stick control both your forward/backward motion, but also your left/right turning, instead of left/right strafing, so your aim was controlled horizontally by the stick, but vertically was pretty much locked on the horizon at all times. To do fine-tuned aiming, or to aim vertically at all, required holding R to bring up the crosshairs which you could then move with the stick, while standing still.

In hindsight, it's amazing that we ever tolerated that.

faercol,
@faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You’re correct. In addition you could strafe using left/right C buttons, and you could look up/down using up/down C buttons, but that was awkward and not really designed to aim.

But we also must remember that those games had an auto lock system. Your character would actually target the ennemies by himself, you would only use the crosshair to dona headshot when you have time to aim, or to aim at a specific object in the game.

But yeah, that seems so clunky compared to what we have today

AsakuraMao,

One of my friends still owns an N64 and wants to play Goldeneye and Perfect Dark sometimes. This control scheme raises my blood pressure so much lol.

Denjin,

They have options to switch to a more “traditional” control scheme.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I got anxiety just reading your post. Ugh.

catloaf,

Tank controls.

Metroid Prime used them too, and it worked fine. The game was designed around it, so enemies were either already on your level, or were slow enough to react that you could stop and aim.

The remake has other control schemes, but I don’t use them because I like the one the game was made for.

tigeruppercut,

Tbf it was always gonna be hard to make good fps controls on the N64 controller. The movement itself was fine once you got used to it (including strafing etc), but the real sticking point as you mentioned is the shoulder button aiming. It pretty much forced you to stop dead to aim accurately. So you really had to pick your time to hold position and take a few shots before running again.

I still had a lot of fun with it despite knowing there were better options out there with mouse and keyboard (although come to think of it when I was first playing wolfenstein and Doom I think I played with keyboard only back then).

Denjin,

Goldeneye scheme was forward and back on the joystick moved forward and back but left and right on the stick turned the camera in that direction. The opposite movements were on the c buttons (strafe left and right and look up and down).

It was incredibly disorientating going from that to Turok which used the strafe on the c buttons and looking on the stick. It’s the same feeling I now get when I try to go back to Goldeneye now that the other orientation has been made universal.

On a side note, the goldeneye controls allowed for a unique way of moving around the map with circle strafing that you can’t really replicate in other games.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

If not GoldenEye, then I believe Perfect Dark would let you plug in two controllers for a dual analog control scheme.

LordTrychon,

Goldeneye did allow this. Crazy. Hard to use other buttons though.

Katana314,

Goldeneye got it functional, but it was janky. Try playing 4p with the old N64 controllers and you’d sorta struggle to move and aim.

Halo updated the standard with something usable in modern games. I think a few games in that genre also set the expectation that weapons should have no aim penalty while strafing, since console players would use small strafing motions to do light aim correction.

mememuseum, (edited )

The original Medal of Honor for the Playstation 1 had an alternate control scheme that let you move in the modern dual stick manner.

GetOffMyLan,

escapistmagazine.com/alien-resurrection-playstati…

Alien resurrection was the first and got panned by critics for it

some_guy, do astronomy w Size Comparison: Pluto and Australia

No shit? Wow, it’s amazing that we were even able to find it.

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Even more amazing that it was found in the era it was. People were pouring over the skies looking for the next big planet, and instead they found this little guy.

There are still some orbital dynamics suggestions that something large and dark is lurking out there – an ice giant. But it’s still largely conjecture. It’d be interesting to see how they define it should they find something very large (say Neptune mass), but it hasn’t cleared its orbit. Is it a planet or not? :D

lugal,

Actually 🤓 it was James Cook who found Australia and he didn’t go there by ski but by ship and he didn’t find one little guy but exterminated a whole indigenous population

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Ah shit, a switcheroo!

Buddahriffic,

They only found it because it’s more like a binary dwarf planet system than a planet/moon system, so the telescopes were able to pick up light reflected from both Pluto and Charron, while Pluto alone might have not been bright enough.

SleepyWheel, do games w Balatro celebrates 2 million sales, will feature major gameplay update in 2025!

I’ve been playing it on mobile for months

github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker

glitches_brew, do games w Unsolvable epic store captcha

It’s becoming extremely frustrating.

Yup. That’ll happen when you touch anything related to epic.

Tywele, (edited ) do gaming w What are your favourite controllers?

My favourite controllers are still the official Xbox controllers because of Xbox Design Labs. I like to have my controller look the way I want. And also they seem to be the only controllers that can still be powered by 2 plain rechargable AA batteries.

Edit: Here is my design for anyone curious: Xbox Design Labs Screenshot

sleepybisexual,

Nice

Xbox ones are cool but I can’t wrap my head around the buttons being inverted compared to Nintendo. Also how’s the dpad?

Tywele,

For me it’s the other way around 😅

The D-pad is really nice. It’s very clicky.

sleepybisexual,

Nice, clicky dpad good

theskyisfalling, (edited )

I don’t care about colours or AA batteries, I’d rather have a cable personally, I do agree on the choice though.

Anything from the 360 onwards are my preferred controllers. A permanently wired 360 controller that does away with the massive battery compartment it my favourite but these days I use an “Xbox one” version with the USB C cable.

along_the_road,

You can use a typc-c to usb cable with the controller if using the controller with windows not sure about other platforms

theskyisfalling,

Yeah, as I said, I use an Xbox one controller with a USB C cable. My PC has a USB C port so I just use C to C. I just wish there was a permanently wired official version of the controller that did away with the huge battery compartment on the back :)

StereoTypo,
@StereoTypo@beehaw.org avatar

My design was on the front page a few years ago…

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/d586db51-d395-4fa9-95a9-072416cb546d.webp

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Is there no option to design a wired one? =/

theangriestbird,

Can’t believe I had to scroll this far for this. To my mind, the modern Xbox controller is the perfect controller for PC. Like you said, this the AA batteries and colorways are great, unique features. On top of this, it’s well-laid out, feels good in the hand, and every button, stick, and trigger feels great to use. And most importantly, it has the broadest compatibility. Every game recognizes the Xbox controller, and almost every game has Xbox button prompts built in.

The only thing missing is hall-effect sticks, but I’ve never experienced stick drift on an Xbox controller so it’s not like I would notice a difference.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

The Xbox controllers are too big for my small hands. For people like me the dualshock 4 is more adapted + it has better build quality and feels sturdier all around

theangriestbird,

DS4? As in the one for the PS4? It’s a bit of an unfair comparison bc they are different gens, but i would definitely argue that the current Xbox Series controllers are higher build-quality than the DS4. My Xbox One controller had creaky, rattly shoulders and an okay but not great d-pad. The newer ones fix that, fortunately.

All that said, I will not dispute that it’s probably less ideal for smaller hands. Sony has always gotten that part right.

MajorHavoc, do gaming w Why are arcade cabinets so expensive?

As someone who sometimes buys these, the price, when on sale, is often cheaper than buying wood and hardware to build my own outer cabinet, control deck and screen.

There’s trade-offs - the materials used aren’t quite as nice as I would pick, but then the included, already applied, art is very nice. And there’s the convenience of not having to plan out all the details like control layout, monitor, side art, top bezel.

To me, it’s really a piece of furniture, rather an affordable way to play the included games.

The CPU cores also only last about 5 years, for me. Which isn’t good, considering that a cheap modern computer will easily last 8-15 years.

I, personally, don’t give a ton of consideration to the included games. I’m really just buying the outer shell and licensed artwork. That’s what I’ll be looking at when not playing.

I’ll replace the innards with a Raspberry Pi when it dies, if not sooner. So I’ll play whatever games I want that fit the control scheme.

I also replace all of the controls, about half the time. The included controls outlast the CPU core, but don’t feel as nice to play on as a set that’s reasonably easy to replace them with.

sleepybisexual,

So, they are just a fancy decoration?

MajorHavoc, (edited )

So, they are just a fancy decoration?

Exactly. There’s so many better ways to play these games:

  • Pandora’s Box
  • Batocera / Emulation Station / RetroPi on a Raspberry Pi
  • Various mini systems with a jailbreak (Sega Genesis Mini and PlayStation Classic are particularly good)
  • SteamDeck or PC with Emulation Station and RetroArch

So the price is really only justifiable, to me, by thinking of the cabinet being a piece of the decorated furniture.

sleepybisexual,

Yea, emulation is in general better. Tho what’s a Pandoras box?

MajorHavoc,

Pandora’s Box is a game machine, with games pre-loaded. It tends to have thousands of arcade games pre-loaded.

It’s a popular choice for restoring actual full size arcade machines, with dead motherboards. It’s also an option to upgrade (or just revive from motherboard death) an Arcade1Up.

With some effort, a cheap PC will do the same job, but some folks like that they’re premade and ready to use.

sleepybisexual,

Nice :3

I should find some romsets

Corvid, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

Alan Wake

Sunny,
@Sunny@slrpnk.net avatar

Didnt know this was set in Pacific Nortwest! Cool!

inb4_FoundTheVegan,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

The advertisements for the game didn’t mention it at all. But as soon as the game starts I was like “Wait is this Whidby Island”?

Which actually kind of backfired on me since for work I had to regularly drive through Whidby late at night. Some of the games monsters were hard not to think about alone at 3 AM. 😂

mynachmadarch,

Just bring a couple extra flashlights, and maybe a light switch and you'll be fine.

BowtiesAreCool,

Technically it’s set in Washington, but fictional Bright Falls is based on Snoqualmie WA, North Bend WA (similar to Twin Peaks) and then also Crater Lake OR

inb4_FoundTheVegan,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

If that’s what the devs said, sure. But the game does literally start with you taking a ferry to an island which always see very whidby/orcas/san juan.

But I’ll admit to my bias, I was driving through whidby at night on a regular basis when I played the game so they always seemed linked to me.

BowtiesAreCool,

Oh I’m sure that was a direct lift, there’s a ton of specific buildings and areas around that are straight outta twin peaks too.

luciole, do gaming w A personal argument for a benefit of gaming
@luciole@beehaw.org avatar

He chooses to beat Elden Ring in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of his energies and skills, because that challenge is one that he is willing to accept, one he is unwilling to postpone, and one he intends to win, and the others, too.

anton2492,

Lmao! We definitely need AI JFK to read this now

Grangle1, do games w The Sega Saturn

There were lots of things that impacted how the Saturn sold compared to the PS1. These include things such as its 2D vs 3D performance (it did 2D much better than 3D, which impacted the Japan vs Western sales since the Western market was all in on 3D whereas Japan still had an appetite for 2D games yet), its basis on squares vs triangles for rendering polygons (a major impact to that 3D performance), infighting between Sega of Japan vs Sega of America (the Saturn was developed in Japan to be Sega’s launch into that generation, while the Genesis was still selling well in America, leading to Sega of America pushing the 32X instead, and Sega of Japan forcing their hand on Sega of America and pulling a surprise Western launch of the Saturn, angering devs and retailers who weren’t ready, and leaving Sega of America holding the bag), and the cancelation of what was supposed to be that marquee Sonic game, Sonic X-treme.

Kolanaki, do gaming w Got a Switch today, need some recommendations.
!deleted6508 avatar

Switch games not also on PS5

Pretty much first-party Nintendo games and a handful of independent games. I had the same desires as you, so all I really had and played and liked was:

  • Animal Crossing
  • Tears of the Kingdom (Breath of the Wild was good but TOTK is basically the same game but 1000x better and after playing it I have no desire to go back to BOTW)
  • Super Mario Odyssey
  • Clubhouse Games

And if I had known it existed while I still had the thing, I would have gotten Switch Sports.

ConstableJelly,

TOTK is basically the same game but 1000x better

I hear ya, but I think that’s why I’d like to try them both, in order. More game, without tarnishing the experience of the first.

I’ve never particularly cared for Mario, but in retrospect it’s always felt somehow alien when I’ve tried playing them, like they all have this particular identity, and I’m not in its clique. Maybe I should actually sit down with one on my own and give it a solid try (rather than just sampling at someone else’s place).

shnizmuffin,
@shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol avatar

100% do both in order. Can’t go backwards for both story and gameplay reasons.

mox, (edited )

Also, I think the matter of which game is better is pretty subjective. I loved BotW, but got bored of TotK less than halfway through.

Friendship,
@Friendship@kbin.social avatar

Same, although to be fair I think the reason TotK got boring was because it was so similar to BotW. Both of them are incredible games but there's such a thing as too much of a good thing.

mox,

Perhaps for some people. In my case, I went back and played BotW again, and enjoyed the replay all the way through.

chloyster,

Def agree with doing botw first if you want to do both. Though I suspect you’ll want a break in between the two. They’re both extremely meaty games

Flamangoman, do gaming w What are some games you find yourself frequently coming back to?

Civ V, every few months I decide to completely fuck up my sleep schedule playing later than I should

TimTheEnchanter,

One more turn…

…and it’s morning.

MxM111,

V?

Flamangoman,

V = 5, fancy roman numbers

MxM111,

Oh I understand that it is 5. But why you are not playing 6?

Vodulas,

Not OP, but I like both for different reasons. V doesn’t have the districts, which changes gameplay pretty significantly. I also prefer the art style of V. That being said, I like the districts and usually play VI, but go back to V almost as often

Nath,
@Nath@aussie.zone avatar

I actually love Civ IV, myself. I’m sure Leonard Nemoy is a huge part of why.

MxM111,

That reminds me about the music of Leonardo Workshop world’s miracle in Civ 2. I remember very little about Civ 2, but this wonder is with me forever:)

Flamangoman,

Oops, my b, misunderstood. I prefer civ V, and seems like a fair number of people do too. I like the art style, and game mechanics better in V. Admittedly though I could never really get into VI, but it seems like a lot of people prefer it too.

TexMexBazooka, do gaming w Couch Gaming setups

Yo I don’t have much to add yet but this post is fucking interesting so I will be checking back

VaultBoyNewVegas, do games w Dragon's Dogma 2: Review Thread

I really hope I get discharged from hospital tomorrow. This would be a nice pick me up after the months I’ve had.

dogslayeggs,

I hope you do, too. Good luck!

KingThrillgore,
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hope you feel better and make a full recovery!

PillowTalk420, do games w What are the best indie games you've ever played?
@PillowTalk420@lemmy.world avatar

Dwarf Fortress.

Not just best indie game, but best game period.

chunkystyles,

If DF never existed, we would’ve missed out on so many amazing games it directly and indirectly inspired.

cyberpunk007,

Still haven’t played it, seems like too much homework just to get started.

johsny,
@johsny@lemmy.world avatar

Try keeperRL, DF lite.

Kolanaki,
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The Steam version makes 90% of the learning curve (learning the UI) disappear because it is so, so much better than the legacy version lol

The game itself is really rather straightforward and easy to figure out. It was always the presentation and layout of the UI and hotkeys that made it a challenge to actually start playing since you could know what you needed to do, but not know how to reach the command for it.

ArmokGoB,

Dwarf Fortress is a very good game.

farcaster, do games w What are the best indie games you've ever played?

Outer Wilds, and its expansion, is one of the most innovative and interesting games I’ve played. Made by students!

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Most games are great because they provide something unique or are polished to perfection, so it’s wild that they’ve made something that manages to be both their first attempt. Really looking forward to whatever they decide to do next.

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