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XM34, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?

Either Subnautica or AC Black Flag. Odyssey’s water gameplay sucks balls compared to Black Flag.

Alternatively, Raft is quite nice

tal,
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I really wanted to like Raft, but the game just felt kind of shallow and on-rails in actual gameplay compared to Subnautica.

XM34,

Raft only truly shines when you play it with friends. Otherwise it gets old real fast. But with a crew of 3-4 chaotic people on board it’s a ton of fun!

ampersandrew, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #10
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I watched two Jobst videos, and the second one didn’t sit right with me, so it’s no surprise he played fast and loose with facts that might see him lose a court case.

As for what I’ve been playing, I just beat Borderlands 2 the other day, and now I’m working my way through the DLC before I move on to the Pre-Sequel and 3. It’s mostly a huge improvement over the first game, but they definitely unflattened the progression compared to the first game, which is something a lot of RPGs and adjacent games do. It’s never been my preference, and it comes with its own design problems, like how the game refused to give me some decent guns toward the end of the game and then suddenly gave me guns that trivialized the next part of the game.

I’m still in the middle of Kingdom Come: Deliverance as well, but I’ve only inched forward in it since the last of these posts.

And I’m always playing fighting games like Skullgirls, so that’s the free space on my Bingo card.

warm, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?

Subnautica is one of the best games out there, I highly recommend it to everyone.

Sea of Thieves has the best ocean physics, the water is absolutely gorgeous, but gameplay is shallow as the game is trying to appeal to as many people as possible.

Bahnd,

Seconding Sea of Thieves, its a fantastic family game or thing to bring everyone along for. There is no “leveling”, the only thing playing does is give you more fancy pirate drip. Game knowlege goes a decent way, but people just being handed a controler and told to act like a pirate will not feel overwelmed.

Buddahriffic,

In jealous of anyone who hasn’t played Subnautica yet because they can still experience it for the first time.

warm,

Yessss, I would love to experience that again

tal,
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There’s a sequel https://store.steampowered.com/app/848450/Subnautica_Below_Zero/, and apparently https://store.steampowered.com/app/1962700/Subnautica_2/ is in the works and headed for Early Access.

warm,

Below Zero is just not the same. I hope the new one returns to the original formula, even with it's co-op.

Rai,

It’s the dialogue for me. Some of it was just kinda ok. But having other characters to interact with really took away the loneliness aspect that made the first game so good.

Plus fuck the on-land section.

warm,

Yep exactly. I also didn't like the hand-holdy waypoints, being told somewhere 1000m down there's a facility is all I needed.

All the monsters are so easy to avoid with orchestrated attacks. The biggest baddest reapers of that game are just on rails and they give you a seatruck perimeter defense upgrade, which just makes every enemy extra harmless.

Also the story...

spoiler-titleyou are sent down to find out what happened to your sister, then you just end up fucking off with a random alien and you dont even need to find anything out about your sister...

Rai,

Oh I could not agree more with all of your points hahaha. I did like the seatruck more than the giant sea base in the first game (I never really used that…) but I also modded my seatruck so it wouldn’t go slower with more cars attached.

I gave the original Subnautica an 8/10 (on a real rating system, where 5/10 is an average game, not trash lawl) and I gave BZ a 6/10. It was good, but the original was amazing.

warm,

That's exactly how I rate too! Doesn't make sense a 7 is just an okay game and there's no such thing as a 10 aha

Rai,

Oh hell yeah! I like you. One of my biggest peeves is reviewers rating something a 6/10 as “okay but kinda bad.” For me, a 5/10 is a serviceable game that I enjoyed, but has some flaws. Not until like 4/10 do I rate “really flawed and needs much work”. I have tons of 5/10 games I really enjoyed.

I think I have three or four 10/10 games period, reviewers throw that out like parade candy!

Buddahriffic,

I enjoyed below zero but found the big moments weren’t as big. Like I’d categorize Subnautica as an exploration horror survival crafting game for the first playthrough but then drop the horror for subsequent ones. I didn’t really get the same sense of horror from below zero and don’t think 2 could do it either.

The way the original dripped the information was an experience on its own, you know, the whole reason I’m being vague to not spoil it while being OK with using quotes like “Multiple Leviathan class life forms detected. Are you sure what you’re doing is worth it?”

The second one didn’t have that, even though they really expanded on a lot of things and did a great job at making a successor exploration survival crafting game, it didn’t make me reel or feel like a hopeless situation just entered a whole new level of hopelessness. That experience is what I wish I could go back to but can’t.

BossDj, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #10

This is great! Such solid content.

I am also so incredibly disappointed in switch 2 news. We have a steam deck, so it won’t be too missed. I don’t think I’d be able to resist, though, if it were in my face every day like that. Good luck!

I picked up death stranding free giveaway recently and am waiting for the summer to dive in. Pretty stoked for it.

Right now, been playing marvel rivals with my kids. It’s a blast, and my daughter is a marvel nerd.

PerfectDark,
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Thank you!!!

My thoughts on the Switch 2 are…contradictory. I like what they’re doing, but it feels iterative. I love my Switch because it is so small and cute, but it makes sense that a bigger screen (and joy-cons for ergonomics?) is better for a gamer. Worst is Nintendo doing Nintendo things and being a bit too predatory for my liking! From what I can see…it’s better to get an OLED and get a chip installed (CFW is soooooo nice to customize everything!). At least until maybe some sales on hardware happen? IDK.

Please let me know what you think of Death Stranding! I love to hear people’s thoughts. It can be so polarizing.

BossDj,

Will do!

I have one of the hackable OG switch, no chip needed. Tried all the OS options. Pretty fun to tool around with. So cool that people spend that kind of energy making cfw and the like.

PerfectDark,
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I’ve had them all!

I had an original V1 which I had the jig/payload method for, and I’ve had a couple of OLEDs which I micro-soldered the chips onto. But after selling all mine off long ago (I preferred to emulate the games on my Steam Deck after getting it!), I picked up a cheap V2 and chipped it, too!

I love themezer (choosing themes are like a daily fun thing for me to do!)

tal, (edited ) do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?
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That’s a lot of different categories.

I like naval warfare games, but I tend towards the sim side, not the “experience being someone there” sort.

The naval warfare game that I have played the most of recently is https://store.steampowered.com/app/2008100/Rule_the_Waves_3/. That’s definitely not an eye candy game, but it models the design and development of warships from 1880 into the Cold War, the construction of fleets, and the tactics when they meet, has a lot of flexibility to simulate different stuff.

The game that I’m most looking forward to being completed is https://store.steampowered.com/app/1286220/Sea_Power__Naval_Combat_in_the_Missile_Age/, which is presently still in Early Access and last time I played it still had a lot of unfinished work. Sort of a spiritual successor to https://store.steampowered.com/app/2910/Fleet_Command//Jane’s Fleet Command. Modern air and naval warfare.

It doesn’t work on Linux, so I can’t play it, but https://store.steampowered.com/app/1076160/Command_Modern_Operations/ is probably the most sim-oriented contemporary air/naval warfare program you can get.

Two other naval warfare games that I enjoy playing:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/541210/Cold_Waters/, which is a Cold War sub warfare game. It abstracts out a lot of the manual stuff that some other sub sims do. Covers the “hide, gather data, strike” bit.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1489630/Carrier_Command_2/. This is not a real-world oriented sim. You command an amphibious assault ship which can capture islands to gain resources, capture technology, and buy munitions, air and amphibious vehicles, and fight against another similar amphibious assault ship approaching you. I really like the untextured polygon aesthetic – they make stuff look pretty even with just that. Need to manage a ton of vehicles and aircraft and production and logistics vessels and support craft concurrently; as the game continues on, the load increases. If you’ve played https://store.steampowered.com/app/267980/Hostile_Waters_Antaeus_Rising/, sort of similar idea — both are based on Carrier Command. Not mission-oriented the way Hostile Waters is. It’s really intended to be played multiplayer, which I’ve no interest in, but you can play single-player if you can handle the load of doing all the tasks. I had a surprising amount of fun banging away with this one. I really think that this game would have benefited from some rebalancing and further development — some gear just isn’t all that useful, and I think that the game would make a magnificent base for a more-sophisticated-dynamic-campaign single-player-oriented game.

You mention https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/. I enjoyed that, though unlike the other games here, that’s not really a naval warfare game, but it’s certainly got a sea theme. I think I own the sequel, https://store.steampowered.com/app/848450/Subnautica_Below_Zero/, but haven’t played it, but given that you don’t mention it, I thought I would, as I’d assume that if you like the first game, you’d also enjoy the second.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/304650/SUNLESS_SEA/ and its sequel https://store.steampowered.com/app/452530/Sunless_Sea__Zubmariner/ is…hard to describe, more about providing a dark British Empire fantasy naval-themed game. Not naval warfare, but exploring a subterranean world…but it’s got sea theming. Not much like everything else on here. Mostly about creating a mood — the gameplay isn’t terribly deep.

It’s not, strictly-speaking, a sea-based game, but https://store.steampowered.com/app/887570/NEBULOUS_Fleet_Command/ is a sci-fi space-based fleet warfare game. A lot of the elements that you might want in a sea-based fleet naval warfare game are there, sensors, electronic warfare, weapons and countermeasures and such.

I think that those are the sea- or sea-associated games that I’d probably most recommend, myself.

EDIT: I have not yet gotten around to playing https://store.steampowered.com/app/1562430/DREDGE/, but I’ve read enough positive comments on it that I’d suggest at least looking at it.

Agent_Karyo,
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Dredge is really cool if you are looking for something a bit more casual, but with decent narrative and very strong world-building.

RowRowRowYourBot,

Dredge was one of the most compelling games I have ever played and I have been gaming since 1980.

CorrodedCranium, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?
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Not the best to any degree but just wanted to shout out the Pimps at Sea mod for Halo MCC that adds boats

libra00, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?
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Gotta go with the old school here, Sid Meier’s Pirates! No water physics, graphics from 2004, etc, but so much fun that I’ve been playing it since the original came out in 1987. Hell, i was playing the 2004 remake just last week even.

Novamdomum,
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Wow... 1987! Shows that fun isn't necessarily about high end gfx :)

libra00,
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When I first started playing video games they were 320x200 in 4 colors, and they weren’t even good colors, they were cyan, magenta, black, and white., so yeah, I’m not that fussed about graphics.

tal,
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If you’re super-into it, have you tried https://store.steampowered.com/app/12470/Port_Royale_2/, which also came out in 2004 and is kind of the same sort of game on the age-of-sail combat side?

libra00,
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Yeah I’ve played it, I preferred Pirates! because it’s more about the adventure than just endless combat. Honestly I rarely even shoot the cannons on my ship except to very occasionally chain-shot someone’s sail or grape-shot their crew before I go board the ship and win it via fencing, so I’m not even all that into the combat.

Num10ck,

you might like Jaws on the NES play it online here vimm.net/vault/?p=play&mediaId=426

libra00,
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Holy shit that is cancer, the audio is so bad I can’t even turn the volume on like 1%. I’m gonna go ahead and say I probably missed the boat on that one, but I appreciate the suggestion.

Zahille7, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?

I haven’t played it, but there’s a game called Salt 2 that I’ve been interested in for a while.

The steam page says it’s basically an infinite ocean with different islands and such. It sounds like it might be procedurally generated, but you can customize your ship and it’s basically your mobile base and all.

Novamdomum,
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Ooh that looks really interesting. Feels a bit like a single player Sea of Thieves maybe? Also 50% off right now on Steam... nice.

Zahille7,

There’s also Atlas, which is a pirate game from a spin-off studio of the ARK devs, so a lot of those basics like taking animals and such are very similar. But in that one, you can actually build your own ship from scratch

Novamdomum,
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Just nabbed Salt 2 and it's so good already and I've only just started! I love how colourful everything is. Also, I made the mistake of going for a wander on the first island too late in the day without realising how DARK night times get. Fumbled my way to the nearest beach and managed to spawn my little raft and just about navigate back to camp. Thanks for the recommendation. I can see this is going to claim many, many hours of my life already 🤣

Albbi, do games w Day 272 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

Nice screenshots.

Love this game.

dumbass, do gaming w Todd's not asking
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Hah!

Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me
Fool me 4 or 6 more times, then I might be dumbass…

AFC1886VCC,

Fool me once, shame on… shame on you

yFool me you can’t get fooled again!

P00ptart,

God those were the days. 🥲

dumbass,
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Ahhhh, back when the U.S president was dumb in a fun way.

P00ptart,

Happy cake day

dumbass,
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Cheers P00ptart!

nolannice,
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Buying the Anniversary Edition so I could “check out some of the workshop content” made me feel like a dumbass for sure

dumbass, (edited )
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I brought the switch version thinking " I’ll be able to play Skyrim where I want! Where I want ended up being just when I was on the toilet. Thankfully it’s free on Xbox so I don’t buy it again.

Visstix, do games w Suggestions for a top down game that is genuinely different to all the others?

Xenonauts, part 2 is in early access

Warhammer 40k: chaos gate

Project zomboid

But yeah top down is not a genre, that’s like saying third person or first person is overcrowded.

Schmuppes, do gaming w Todd's not asking

Sixteen times the detail!

obrenden, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?

I had a lot of fun with Blackwake when it first came out, haven’t played recently though.

Free on steam store.steampowered.com/app/420290/Blackwake/

BevsDad,
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That game was the best!

nyctre, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?

Abzu? Dave the diver, maybe? Dredge?

Or, this might be a might more out of left field or maybe completely stupid and not at all what you had in mind, but what about coral island? You don’t get to experience the water surface except when fishing or doing other stuff on the shore. But you get to do stuff on the bottom and there’s mermaids and stuff.

Stardew valley with a tropical island vibe. So definitely fun and immersive. Definitely more adjacent than something like sea of thieves or black flag or subnautica, but I feel like it fits better than just cause 3, imo

Novamdomum,
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Ooh Coral Island sounds interesting... Wishlisted! Thanks :)

nyctre,

Glad to hear it :D

renegadespork, do gaming w Todd's not asking

Also Nintendo.

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