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Damaskox, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?
@Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

Factorio is fun for me until oil comes up.

I have managed to play further with the black market mod. I can make whatever item I want, sell enough of it and buy the things I want or need instead of making them myself.

Other mods add more powerful machines that make items much faster. I like to do manually stuff with one machine only, then swap to something else with the same machine and repeat the process.

AngryCommieKender,

With the update, even if you don’t have the DLC, fluids have been rebalanced. You just have to place a pump every 200-250 tiles and everything flows.

For oil specifically, you don’t need anything but petroleum until what used to be late game. So just build a few (like a dozen) refineries and make sure that there’s actually oil coming in.

Once you actually need lubricant, and light oil, set up chemical plants to turn heavy oil into lube and light oil, and light oil into petroleum. It won’t be fast, but it won’t clog and it will produce what you need, slowly. You can use storage tanks as a buffer for your lube, light oil, and petroleum. Heavy oil isn’t used as a direct input for any assembler recipe.

I consider myself a Factorio apprentice, as I have yet to actually set up a proper train system. I’m slowly learning circuit logic, but can get to Gelba without getting stuck.

Don’t stress optimization, brute force works as well.

According to my father, who is an absolute Epic Wizard level computer programmer consultant, Factorio teaches you the basics of computer programming.

Agent641,

Oil is where Factorio becomes factoriohno

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

The updated fluid mechanics are a lot more forgiving and basically have infinite throughput. It’s still a whole new layer of complexity but doesn’t have nearly as many confusing limitations as it used to.

Weirdfish,

I don’t think anyone plays factorio the way it was meant to be played.

With the new belt reading mechanics, I’m trying a single sushi belt play through and have made it as far as blue science so far.

tal, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I’m currently scraping the Steam barrel

tomshardware.com/…/steam-released-a-record-number…

Steam released 18,825 new games in 2024, beating its previous record of 14,311 last year.

That’s a pretty deep barrel. For comparison:

www.mobygames.com/platform/playstation-4/

There are 11,274 video games on PlayStation 4. They were released between the years 2013 and 2025.

mohab,

I was cursed with an extremely narrow taste in video games so there isn't a lot for me out there in general.

mic_check_one_two,

Yeah, 18k games, but a lot of that is going to be shovelware. Steam has a big issue with shovelware designed to look like a good deal. They’ll release like 25 games, one will be priced at like $100, with the rest priced at like 50¢.

Then they do a publisher bundle, which marks all of those 50¢ games down by like 90%, but doesn’t touch the pricey game. So on the surface, the bundle is marked as like $100 for 25 games, at 87% off. Looks like a great deal. When in reality it’s just 24 cheap games marked down, and one super expensive game. And all of them will be shovelware. But it’ll be enough to fool anyone who doesn’t bother to dig into the actual bundle details.

filister, do games w Day 262 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

Damn, man, I admire your perseverance. 262 days of posting. Kudos!

Renacles, do games w What open-world games on Steam have satisfying movement, like Arkham Knight or Spider-Man?

Dying Light 2 has the best traversal I’ve seen in an open world, it had a very solid base coming from the original but it expanded it with new moves and tools.

Rozz, do games w What open-world games on Steam have satisfying movement, like Arkham Knight or Spider-Man?

Tchia - it is a relaxing game, but I enjoyed it when I needed a break from intense games or intense life.

You can sail a boat, swim, glide, slide down hills, flip through the air AND transform into object and animals. When you are an object you can hop and throw yourself. When you are an animal you can do whatever they do, fly swim, run, see in the dark, poop on people, break coconuts, and more.

klobuerschtler, do games w Day 259 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

Despite all the drama this game gets, i really enjoy my time with.

agent_nycto, do games w What open-world games on Steam have satisfying movement, like Arkham Knight or Spider-Man?

Not quite open world but I really like the movement in Crab Champions

Statick, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?

I used to only do something called “surfing” in the Counter-Strike: Source days.

There are dedicated servers that only run surf maps.

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

There was a game called tribes that combined the surfing/skiing movement with combat before the counterstrike mod levels came out, it was pretty fun the sequel tribes 2 was pretty popular for a minute when it came out too. But the skill ceiling on some of those cs surf maps was wild.

Agent641,

TF2 Had surf maps too, and I spent an embarrassing amount of time on those. Got super good at it too.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

you might enjoy the game Haste, it has a demo on steam

Million,

Source best game.

I still have KSF Clan server list in my bookmarks for easy access. When theres nothing to play, just play surf.

Also, shoutout to momentum mod, a standalone game with surf, bhop, defrag, rocket jump, sticky jump and more in one single game. Coming out soon ™️

Hazelnutcookiez,

100% of my CS playtime is surfing it’s so fun.

Renacles, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

Infamous 1 and 2, I’d love a remake to be honest but I’ll take a simple port.

MrFinnbean, do games w Day 262 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

Always love to see Zomboid.

Do you play modded or vanilla?

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

It depends on how we’re feeling, usually me and my friend will play Modded though, i always play modded on singleplayer though just for the NPC mod

missingno, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Puyo Puyo Chronicle, the last good installment in the series, don't @ me. I'd like Sega to make a proper new game, but they're clearly never ever ever ever gonna do that, so the next best thing they could do is port a good one. What I need most is a game that's on all major platforms with crossplay.

LaserTurboShark69, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

The PS2 exclusive War of the Monsters

mohab,

How do you feel about Gigabash?

LaserTurboShark69,

It’s fun but doesn’t quite scratch the itch. It’s a lot more arcade-y and simpler than War of the Monsters. Way smaller maps and less environmental interaction

n3m37h, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Yep, fuck M$

Coelacanth, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

My gaming PC is on Win 11 because it’s recent and I’m lazy and it’s convenient. My laptop runs Win 10 so it’ll be Linux I guess. Not really looking forward to finding a distro and reinstalling and whatnot but what can you do. It’s been a good few years since I last had a Linux box so I’m pretty rusty and not up to date on the recent best distros.

Ephera,

What distro did you use before?

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I used to use UbuntuStudio back when I was playing around with music recording and production ages ago because it ran the real-time kernel which was important for JACK I think. Last time though was just Mint.

Ephera,

Well, Mint is still one of the top recommendations for new users. It gets support for the newest hardware at a bit of a delay, so if you wanted to follow suit with your new gaming PC, it might not be as great of a choice for that for now, but for your laptop, that’s what I’d recommend, if you’re not looking to experiment.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I’m probably not going to be doing much gaming on my laptop, if any. I could be persuaded to experiment if you have any other suggestions.

Ephera,

Well, that was kind of a general statement. Mint is boring. That’s what it’s good at. That’s why it’s loved and why it’s recommended for new users. Specifically, it’s similar to Windows in many ways. It’s somewhat more customizable, but that’s about it.

With you having used Linux twice before, you could consider something less Windows-like, less boring. I’ll be talking about the desktop environment (DE) rather than distro, because it has much more influence on this. You can use these DEs on various distros.

  • My personal favorite DE is KDE Plasma. The default-layout is also Windows-like, but it’s got all of the bells and whistles and options you could imagine. It’s kind of power-user heaven and almost like a toolbox to build whatever workflow you want.
  • The other big, popular DE is GNOME. It’s more macOS- and Android-like and focuses on a specific workflow. People who can get used to that workflow, then often really like it. The workflow itself is sometimes frustratingly uncustomizable, but it’s also fairly customizable when it comes to the details, typically by virtue of also having lots of features, which can then be customized.
  • Well, and I guess, I’ll throw in Xfce, too, since that’s likely what you used, back when you used Ubuntu Studio. (Ubuntu Studio uses KDE since the October 2020 release, but used Xfce before then.)
    Xfce isn’t necessarily what modern beauty standards would get flustered by, but many folks like it for its simplicity and because it is perhaps even more boring than Mint (without being Windows-like). There’s a good chance that it still works a lot like back when you used it.

Perhaps also worth mentioning that Mint’s DE is called “Cinnamon”, although it’s developed by the Mint devs, so if you like that a lot, it’s typically worth sticking to Mint.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Wow, thank you for the extensive reply! I did used to use xfce back in the day, yes. Never had a problem with it, but those were maybe simpler times. Might look into KDE this time, why not.

I was really thinking less of the DE and more along the lines of if you had any recommendations that weren’t Ubuntu- or Debian-based, as that’s pretty much all I’ve used I think. But maybe that’s too much experimenting…

Ephera,

Yeah, I always hesitate to recommend distros. 😅
There’s tons out there and they all exist, because some smart person decided to put in lots of work, as the existing ones didn’t match what they wanted.

If we exclude Ubuntu/Debian-based, that narrows it down somewhat. The other major distros are:

  • Fedora: Rather much tied to the corporate side (Red Hat / IBM), tends to be rather up-to-date. Kind of has a focus on GNOME, but other “Spins” are available.
  • Arch: Community-driven, pretty much a DIY distro, so the initial setup is somewhat challenging. It’s really up-to-date, so much that it’s referred to as “bleeding edge” (rather than cutting edge), meaning you might get faulty updates from time to time. It’s also often loved by minimalists, because they can decide for each component, if they want to install it.
  • Well, and perhaps the most niche of these – which is what I’m on – openSUSE: Has the best integration of KDE (not by a huge margin, but still). I like it in particular, because of its snapshotting system. It automatically starts snapshotting your OS (not the user files) once per hour or whenever you make changes to the installed packages. If something breaks, you can boot into a previous snapshot from the bootloader and roll things back.
    It’s the most “maximalist” mainstream distro, in that it preinstalls relatively much software. Personally, I think the other distros are a bit silly with their minimalist tendencies, but yeah, I’m biased. And well, downsides of openSUSE are that it is somewhat niche. You’ll find a helpful, tight-knit community, but it’s less likely that guides mention how to do things on openSUSE. Similarly, you’re less likely to find pre-packaged software for openSUSE. May have to compile from source more often, although SoS has a good amount of software, too.

As for whether a different distro is too much experimenting, if you do jump into it, you’ll understand why I talked about the desktop environment instead. 🙃
The DE makes a much bigger difference. Some people conflate distro and DE, because certain distros will have certain default DEs.
But if you used the same DE on two distros, honestly the main difference you’d notice is a different package manager. Where Ubuntu Studio and Mint use apt, openSUSE uses zypper, Fedora uses dnf and Arch uses pacman. They handle somewhat differently, but largely do the same things (i.e. install/update/remove packages).
Obviously, there are more differences to the distros, like how quickly they update and some of the default configuration, like the snapshotting I raved about, but ultimately it’s still a Linux system with much of the same software running on both…

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Thanks again for the rundown! Snapshotting like that is definitely cool, I can see why you enjoy it. I’m no stranger to having to nuke the system partition and reinstalling because I broke something so snapshots definitely sound like a convenient tool. Though I might be older and lazier now and less prone to do a bunch of weird things.

I know the memes of “Arch, btw” and have always been scared of it tbh. Maybe it isn’t so bad though? I’ve also heard people praise Bazzite, but I might lot end up doing much gaming on my laptop as I said.

Is the whole thing about real-time or low-latency kernel still a thing, or is that old news? Just in case I wanted to play around with JACK again.

Ephera,

Yeah, I don’t have first-hand experience with Arch for that reason either. Well, and also because I do want a distro to set things up for me. You could set up the snapshotting (with BTRFS and Snapper) on theoretically any distro, but not having to figure out how and what settings are good, that’s why I go with openSUSE.
I might look into NixOS at some point. It obsoletes the need for OS snapshots, because the entire OS configuration is made in configuration files. But from what I hear, it helps to be a programmer (which I am) to really appreciate NixOS.

And yeah, don’t know much about Bazzite either, but from what I’ve heard, it really has some design decisions that make it feel more like a games console. The atomic/transactional updates, for example. As I understand, updates and such are applied to a copy of your OS, which gets swapped in when you do the next reboot. This helps keep the system stable after applying updates, but implies that you can’t really just poke around manually in your root partition.
It can be helpful for users not looking to experiment, but yeah, can be a pain, if you do want to.

As for a real-time kernel, the JACK FAQ says you don’t need it, but the distro might limit real-time scheduling anyways: jackaudio.org/faq/linux_rt_config.html
I’ve had JACK running on my system about a year ago, although I didn’t really have a need for low latency, so I can’t say, if it actually worked correctly.
Perhaps also worth pointing out that “Pipewire” is becoming a thing, which tries to make interfacing with JACK and PulseAudio much easier. I believe, I also used Pipewire back then. But yeah, folks who’ve dealt with JACK a lot more than I have, seem to be really excited about it, so it’s presumably doing a great job.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

You are just a font of information, thank you so much! I’m starting to feel like I have a handle on the landscape. NixOS sounds like a cool idea, though I am not a programmer so maybe it’s not for me at this current time.

I probably know what to start looking at now when the time comes to make the change, this has been a great help. Pipewire sounds great and I’ll definitely look into that, I do remember tearing my hair a bit occasionally dealing with PulseAudio back in the day 😅

gonzo-rand19,

For gaming, people often recommend Pop!_OS, Bazzite, or Zorin, but you can use whatever you want if you are a tinkerer. I use Debian and have a great time gaming.

Outside of gaming and if Windows software compatibility isn't really something you're worried about, you can use any distro you want.

You can try some of them out using a web browser with DistroSea if you feel like it, though they don't have every distro because that would be nuts.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been on Kubuntu for a while, but snaps are starting to bug me. When I build a new PC, I’m in the market for a new distro. Do you have a solid recommendation for a KDE-based distro that doesn’t have a Windows-esque update step during shutdown and restart?

gonzo-rand19,

I'm not familiar enough with KDE to know what you mean by a Windows-esque update step, but if you can explain further I'll see if I can find something for you.

Alternatively, someone else might pop in with some options.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I sampled Fedora a few years back, but, much like Windows, when it installs updates for certain core components, on shutdown and boot-up, it will have a “Please wait while we install updates” screen. Meanwhile, in Kubuntu, it installs everything in the background while I’m using my computer normally, and the change takes place on next restart, when I’m good and ready, with no additional time waiting at that update screen.

gonzo-rand19,

Hmm, I suppose the big difference between Fedora and Kubuntu is that Fedora is a fixed point release distro (similar to rolling release but less frequent) that applies updates only on restart, so it's possible that it needs a moment to ensure that everything is compatible.

It's certainly a weird choice to kidnap your desktop, so I don't blame you for being annoyed. If that's causing this, then you might want to try a stable release distro. This is part of why I like Debian, because it doesn't change very quickly and updates are unlikely to need special care to ensure stability. Debian also doesn't have the issue you're talking about, it updates right away in the background.

Kubuntu is Ubuntu-based (duh) so if you like how it behaves, you could try Debian (which Ubuntu is based on) or try another flavour of Ubuntu. Pop!_OS and Zorin are both Ubuntu-based and should definitely be on DistroSea.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. That seems like a good jumping off point.

Dariusmiles2123,

I’m using Fedora workstation (Gnome) and the updates are done while turning off the computer.

Next time I start it, it starts without having to apply or download anything.

The only thing which could be improved is that you still have to go to the software center to download updates, but you can apply them whenever you want.

imecth,

To choose your distro you must first decide whether you want a a stable distribution (debian) or a bleeding edge one (arch). Then you have to decide whether you want it to be a rolling release (tumbleweed) or a fixed point release distribution (fedora).

There's a lot more that could be said about each of these distros, but they all have KDE sessions.

b_tr3e,
@b_tr3e@feddit.org avatar

The bleeding edge distro is called “unstable”, not “Arch”. /s

b_tr3e,
@b_tr3e@feddit.org avatar

Snaps are a pest and Ubuntu is more or less a failed experiment. I had way less trouble installing and maintaining a couple of plain vanilla Debian hosts than Ubuntu machines for years. The killer argument for Ubuntu was easiness of installation. Nowadays a standard Debian install is a matter of a few clicks. Sure a custom install like encrypted LVM over several partitions is still a demanding task even for an ecperienced user - but at least it is possible.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Does Debian have the same update woes I ran into with Fedora? Or if there was a way to tweak that in Fedora, I couldn’t find the option, and it was several years ago besides.

imecth,

You can update fedora through the terminal which skips the reboot part.

b_tr3e,
@b_tr3e@feddit.org avatar

No. Debian updates tend to be interruption free. Apt/dpkg is a lot more consistent than RPM and deals very nicely with dependencies in both directions.

SnotFlickerman, (edited ) do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Only semi-related: Why do they always show pictures of Gates when he hasn’t been involved in MS in a long time? Why never Satya Nadella?

EDIT: Also, yes, related to the actual question already living Linux full time and when October rolls around probably gonna back up everything from the Windows side of my dual-boot and wipe the 1TB NVMe Windows is on to use as storage.

HeyJoe,

I was thinking the same thing. He will just forever be known as the guy. Maybe it will change once he dies?

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Maybe, he is indeed looking hella rough in this photo.

TheHobbyist,

Seems he’s using the same orange tan as the other orange guy haha

capuccino, (edited )
@capuccino@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think so. Gates’ shoes are big ones.

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

businessinsider.com/bill-gates-harassment-inappro…

You’re right, it’s really hard to fill the shoes of someone who abuses their power and position to try to hook up with women.

capuccino,
@capuccino@lemmy.world avatar

Well, I guess that Gates can’t fill their own shoes too

UprisingVoltage,

Not that hard unfortunately. I’m sure someone up to the task can fill his shoes no problem

Lost_My_Mind,

Didn’t work for Steve Jobs.

kungen,

It’s maybe some kind of circular logic, but my brain doesn’t recognize a picture of Satya Nadella = “Microsoft’s CEO” for some reason.

victorz,

Maybe your brain would, if it had a chance to connect the two if they posted more pictures of Satya and Microsoft in the same context…

osaerisxero,
@osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Yeah, its maybe some kind of circular logic that their brain doesn't make that link

victorz,

It’s probably some kind of circular logic, I dunno. 🤷‍♂️

towelie,

I couldn’t name another Microsoft employee if a gun was to my head. but I can still vividly remember myself in 4th grade reading about Bill Gate’s mega mansion in Popular Mechanics for Kids

omgitsaheadcrab,

Steve Ballmer! Developers developers developers! That’s the other one I know

Pantsofmagic,

I’m somewhat in the same boat but I remember Mister “Developers Developers Developers” Steve Ballmer who was also immortalized by the “Ballmer Peak” XKCD. xkcd.com/323/

pennomi,

I could but that’s because a friend of mine works on the legacy rendering code in Excel. He has some traumatic war stories to share.

tyler,

Holy shit I remember that article too!

MurrayL,

Gabe Newell?

Saucepain,

He would be also be a reasonable person to include on an article citing Steam data.

UpperBroccoli,
Blue_Morpho,

It’s weird how MS’s putting developers first became a joke. Back in the 80’s, companies like HP and IBM had open warehouses with coders at desks lined up like factory workers. MS was the first big company to give a private office to every programmer.

MurrayL,

The approach isn’t what became a joke, it was the absolutely unhinged way in which it was presented in that famous Ballmer stage appearance.

Blue_Morpho,

Oh sure, it was crazy. But the sentiment behind it was good. It’s like how Howard Dean got dunked on for his scream.

pycorax,

I’d take that any day over the unhinged AI focus from all these companies now or Google’s awful documentation from the past few years.

nyctre,

I’m here, so I’m more likely to know who that is or what he looks like. But I don’t. I do now because you mentioned him and I looked up how he looks like. Your average Joe is gonna be even less likely to know who that is or what he looks like. So I’m guessing that’s why. Some CEOs just avoid the spotlight. Or maybe I’ve just been avoiding MS news, dunno

tauren,

It’s a vicious cycle. The media don’t use Satya Nadella’s name or picture much, so people don’t know who he is or how he looks like.

b_tr3e,
@b_tr3e@feddit.org avatar

Because he set the general, evil directions for MS. Like keeping users uninformed and locked in, smearing the competition, sabotaging open standards, taking your control over your hardware and data away from users, etc. All happened during evil Bill’s reign.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Not to mention the many deals with hardware manufacturers in order to avoid competing OSs to have any chance. They managed to kill BeOS and dominate the Japanese market in the 90s

RampantParanoia2365,

I was wondering why Bill Gates would be talking about Steam users.

NRay7882,

Optics or marketing, it’s the same reason LLMs are all called AI.

Wooki,

Under his watch they did form the anti-opensource and EEE mantra

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