Previous System76 owner here - Switched to Framework for my second laptop. Yes, System76 contributes upstream to Linux, but Framework is just better. My System76 needed a fan replaced and it was lowkey annoying - Paid over 150$ to have it done; such an upgrade is much easier on the Framework (not to mention the customization lets you get exactly what you need and pay for nothing more)
Same tbh. Framework just works. And they do contribute back, just perhaps not as much specifically to Linux. Open source hardware is so incredibly valuable and important and rare. Honestly, if I had to choose only based on how much is contributed back, I’d still pick Framework.
I haven’t used any Framework systems, so I can’t really give a proper comparison. I have owned two S76 laptops, a now-ancient Lemur Pro I bought back in 2017, and just recently, a Pangolin I just picked up a few weeks ago. I haven’t really had a chance to put the Pangolin through its paces, but it does have AMD-based 3-d acceleration built in. The old Lemur (and the new lemurs) only have basic Intel graphics.
I was able to use my old Lemur for some very light gaming. I think last time I was traveling, I was able to play Football Manager and Fallout Shelter quite successfully, but Lord of the Rings Online was just a bit beyond its capabilities. I would assume that Skyrim would definitely be beyond the Lemur’s reach.
It looks like the F13 does have some amount of built-in 3d acceleration, so just looking at specs I would expect it to do better than the Lemur. Lemur’s got a slightly larger display, but neither are very big. The rest of the specs look like they can vary quite broadly depending on your order so that makes the rest a bit hard to compare fairly.
Like I said, I’ve never even seen a Framework laptop in person, so I can’t give a hands-on comparison. I can say that I’ve been very pleased with my experience with System 76. If you’re looking at S76, consider the Pangolin. It’s only a little bit larger than the Lemur, the price is pretty close, and it comes with more capabilities.
edit-to-add: Whatever you pick, I hope you will come back and tell us how it turned out.
You sound like me lol. I had a lemur first snd upgraded to a pangolin a few years ago. I do a lot of gaming on my pangolin, but mostly indie games. Per Aspera, parkitect, firewatch, stuff like that. It will play Valheim but it’s a little choppy on low.
I expect the latest version of the pangolin would run better. Not only is it a much improved APU, it looks like it has vastly improved cooling.
Yeah, I don’t expect to play a lot of things but 99% of the time I’m playing some 2D indie game. Everyone once in a blue moon I like to replay the TES series
Thats crazy you experience this. I have like 1500 hours in SoT, and it’s Rare (pun intended) to even hear other crews use voice chat. I can’t remember the last time someone was toxic. My only gripe is their servers suck sooooooooo much ass, I legit don’t think they have a single employee that knows how fix it.
Maybe I magically attract those toxic people. Could also be my regular crewmate who plays a female black pirate and gets double the bullshit. I have a few videos with us being called the N-word and screenshots with horrible ship or guild names and Rare barely does anything about it.
Same in Gaijins other game Enlisted. You see a lot of Nazi references in peoples nicknames like 88, SS and variations of famous leaders names and it’s not uncommon at all to see n-bombs etc in chat.
It’s a buggy pay2win shitshow but I must say the actual gameplay is pretty fun. Although I play it regularly myself I can’t recommend it in good conscience.
Rocket league toxicity is just so funny to me. Not only is it a game about funny cars playing football, but also console players can’t chat, so what they do is spam things like: nice shot, good save. I only played a few hours of rocket league, and my teammates HATED me. I didn’t even do that bad, and yeah, i also wished i wasn’t a noob.
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