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Kazumara, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Metro Exodus. Opening up the map was a mistake. The linear levels were fine, that gives you tight pacing and you always know what’s next. The confined underground spaces were part of the soul of that series. I only played maybe 8 hours of Exodus and can’t be bothered to play more.

Alloi,

it gets pretty good as you go, but i see your point. the first two games followed the books almost perfectly as well.

HubertManne, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 was amazing.

Yeah its like the soy sauce on rice. Gotta have it.

devolution, do games w Vintage gaming advertising pictures: a gallery
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The Playstation panty sniffer. Lol

absquatulate, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 was amazing.

It’s so damn good. I must’ve replayed it like six times since it came to pc. The story, the voice acting, characters, graphics, everything is absolutely top notch. Except for the goddamn controls (and the menus). I’m not sure if it’s due to it being a console-first game or just a rockstar thing as rdr1’s were also crap, but holy shit they’re infuriating. The amount of times I shot people by mistake, lost missions because of a wrong key, or just plain ended up with an unpayable bounty is too damn high.

dogslayeggs, do games w Gamers have you ever been in a game competition or something similar?

To answer the question I think you are asking: No, I’ve never done any of the modern game competitions or leagues. I am not nearly good enough to compete against anyone who is remotely good enough to compete in gaming competitions. I’m also a completely different gamer these days and prefer to just play more meditative single player games that have bursts of action.

To answer the question in a very literal way: Yes, back in the 80s I made it to the regional finals of the Nintendo World Championships (at the time when the Fred Savage movie The Wizard had just came out). I was up on stage in the central throne chair with the 100ft TV screen behind me projecting my game to 1000s of people in front of me cheering us on. I was roughly 10?? at the time, so I thought I was fucking amazing. I just barely missed out on making it to the next round in some other state because I screwed up placing a long piece in Tetris. I won a hat out of the thing.

I also played in a Tetris tournament at a bar in LA about 15 years ago. I fucking crushed it and won $100.

58008, do games w So are GOG going to relist Devotion? Seeing how they're about freedom to buy games.
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I haven’t spent a dime on GOG since this happened. Fuck them. Not only is their professed anti-censorship stance fucking laughable in light of the Devotion débâcle, their game preservation efforts are even more laughable when they literally excluded a game from possible preservation because of a hoard of thin-skinned CCP hostages.

Even without that episode I would have stopped using GOG eventually, because they also went against their one selling point - no DRM - more than once. They sold Witcher 3 hard copies with online verification (you had to link it to your account with a serial number, you couldn’t just install it and play it from the disc offline). They included a little card in the box with an apology for this requirement, citing their need to protect their sales. Which is fair enough, but don’t pretend that this isn’t DRM. The fact that it was one of their own games shows how much hypocrisy they have when they complain about other developers doing the same thing. Being able to share the downloaded files freely makes me wonder why they bothered with any DRM, but bother they did.

Then they sold Hitman (2016) which has literally the most egregious and hateful DRM in the history of gaming. If you don’t submit to it, your game is essentially a very expensive demo. Most content and even basic game features like saving and progress tracking is disabled unless you’re connected to the DRM server. GOG users complained and the game was delisted, but the fact remains that they fucking tried. If GOG doesn’t even believe in being anti-DRM anymore, then I see no reason to use their [apparently] CCP-curated games library.

GOG may have started out as a plucky band of disruptors and idealists, but that dream died about 10 years ago. They’re EA cosplaying as Che Guevara. I wouldn’t even mind if they behaved like every other storefront, but it’s the pretence and the morality-washing that makes them especially despicable. I mean EA and Ubisoft aren’t feigning to be motivated by some grand political or societal good; they’re malignant capitalists who would sell their own children, and would tell you as much. GOG dons the robes of a grassroots pinko activist while dancing to the exact same corporate tune.

KiwiTB,

How is a disk copy of Witcher 3 a GOG problem? Also an always on save system sucks, it never made sense when Ubisoft tried it, still makes no sense now. But it’s not DRM, and had nothing to do with GOG.

g0nz0li0,
@g0nz0li0@lemmy.world avatar

GOG.com (formerly Good Old Games) is a digital distribution platform for video games and films. It is operated by GOG sp. z o.o., a wholly owned subsidiary of CD Projekt

GOG/CD Projekt made Witcher 3.

WolfLink,

How is a disk copy of Witcher 3 a GOG problem?

The company that makes GoG makes Witcher 3.

KiwiTB,

Sure… But disks are not part of GOG and have nothing to do with it. It would be like complaining a corner store sold you can of coke for 10 bucks but the coke vending machine outside says $1.

Bronzebeard, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Apex Legends ruined the possibility of getting a Titanfall3

afansfw, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Prototype 2. I loved the main character of the first one and the idea that even a monster was not as evil as human corporations. The jump to him being a main villain in 2 was too abrupt, there needed to be more story reasons to justify the change, or they shouldn’t have made him a villain at all.

LostWanderer, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 was amazing.
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I've gotten pretty far in the game before having to put it down for a bit, it's a great game for certain! I do enjoy the level of detail in terms of how NPCs act and respond around Arthur. Red Dead Redemption 2 is certainly a huge step-up in terms of quality from the original game.

I'm not particularly keen for GTA6 as those games tend to be off-putting for me (mechanically and story wise), I also hate driving in games...Unfortunately, GTA tends to involve a lot of driving.

caut_R, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

I loved Battlefield.

For me it started to go downhill with BF1, although it was still a good game, it already started trying to be a movie and not the „put C4 onto jeep, plop into jeep, drive jeep to enemy, plop out if jeep, boom“ kinda jamboree that I loved. Now it was all about getting spammed with immersive animations that just broke the flow for me. At least hardcore servers were still very enjoyable for me.

Then BFV came around and with it more animation spam on top of absolute terrible visual clarity where you had to stand still for a couple seconds and scan a room to really be sure no one‘s lying on their back in a corner (obviously you‘re long dead by then). Oftentimes I got shot by a camper and even in the killcam I couldn‘t even see the guy. As if that‘s not enough, they introduced clown skins that made you wonder if that person‘s on your side or not. Now it’s not x uniform soldiers against x uniform soldiers anymore, there‘s superheroes and supervillains running around. I hardly even played this one.

Then BF2042 came and it‘s just Apex Legends hamfisted into a BF frame as far as I‘m concerned. I didn‘t even get this until they trashed it for 2 bucks and played for like 2 hours since.

BF3 was peak, BF4 was good, BF1 was alright, then a whole lotta disappointment. I‘ll never forget the 24/7 Back to Karkand Rush server in BF3, community servers rock. Good times, sad greed made it go to shit.

BigPotato,

BF3 was certainly really good but maybe I can show my age by saying 1942 and Vietnam were at the very least the start of the plateau, if not the real peak.

caut_R,

I enjoyed the DC mod more which might be the reason why BF3 was my peak 🤔 Did you maybe like BFV then?

BigPotato,

I did play a bunch of BFV but I wouldn’t say I liked it more than 1942. My time spent on BFV was mostly mucking about with friends which was probably the ideal way to play that one.

ampersandrew, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 was amazing.
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It’s an all-timer as far as video game stories and production value, but the railroading that they did to players did irk a great deal of us, as chronicled in that Nakey Jakey video. They set up so many dynamic systems for the player to interact with and then basically dictated that you couldn’t get creative with them during the story missions. Deviating even slightly from the intended path would be a mission failed.

SpaceNoodle,

Odd, I don’t recall having any issues there.

ampersandrew,
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The video evidence in that essay will do more justice than any of my anecdotes, but even things that seemed like possible ways to handle a story mission were not what the developers intended and resulted in a mission failed, like trying to take the high ground in a valley, or trying to sneak in through a window instead of entering from the ground floor.

who,

I haven’t seen that video, but I suspect I would agree. RDR2 is something of a paradox.

They did an amazing job on environments and characters, and then turned around and hobbled the game with bizarre PC controls, a save game system and unskippable cut scenes woven from pure contempt for the player’s time, and dog shit mission mechanics that punish the player for any attempt to exercise agency and really have no place in an open world game.

forgotaboutlaye,

I think your enjoyment will depend on what you’re expecting from your games.

Naughty Dog’s games are some of my favourites, RDR2 is the closest I’ve gotten to that playing a movie experience in an open world game. I would guess that’s hard to balance with more emergent gameplay in open-world story missions, so if that is more what you enjoy as a player, you’d probably feel very restricted.

Absolutely loved RDR2 though. My first or second favourite game of all time.

Leax,

Great video. While I respect the crazy amount of work that went into RDR2, I found the story dumb and the gameplay on rail very boring. I’m always surprised when people are raving about it.

ampersandrew,
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For my criticisms of that game, which mostly match that video, the story isn’t one of them. I’d call it one of the best the medium has to offer.

Leax,

Oh really? That “one more heist” story? :) I liked the ending, but the first half didn’t resonate at all.

ampersandrew,
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A one more heist story where it was clear it was never going to be just one more heist, and the band dissolved itself over a lack of real leadership. As opposed to the trope, where it’s one more heist that goes wrong. I take it back; I do have a critique of the story. Act 4, on the island, was a detour from anything that had anything to do with the main plot. Other than that though, I thought it was fantastic.

Leax,

Fair enough!

1SimpleTailor, (edited ) do gaming w A game you think does DLC incredibly well?
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Are we counting old-school expansions as DLC? If so, then, aside from the infamous Horse Armor, the Elder Scrolls series seriously raised the bar for what to expect from RPG add-ons. Tribunal and Bloodmoon were massive expansions that set the standard early on.

Knights of the Nine might’ve been a bit weaker, but Shivering Isles is one of the GOAT expansions and is arguably better than the base game.

Skyrim kept the momentum going with Dawnguard and Dragonborn, both of which added tons of new content.

The series is straight-up GOATed when it comes to expansions that are actually expansive: new locations packed with quests, items, monsters, spells, etc. They take already huge games and somehow make them even bigger.

Aielman15, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
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Resident Evil 2 Remake left me very disappointed. The moment-to-moment gameplay is good, great even! But the complete lack of soundtrack (despite the original game having a lot of iconic tracks), two thirds of the story being cut, and the characters just acting as imbeciles for half the screentime was upsetting. Worst offender was Leon leaving a man to die inside his cell because “I have to speak with the chief first”. Like, what? You don’t even know if the chief is alive, and even if he was, you don’t know where he is, and you don’t have the certainty that you can get back in one piece to free the poor guy from jail. You really want to leave him like that at the mercy of whatever monster lurks inside?

Don’t get me started on 3 Remake.

Alloi,

couldnt even finish 3, 2 was alright, 4 was obviously the best out of the remakes.

NocturnalMorning, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Final Fantasy Remake Part 1

They changed the story and introduced Whispers to the game, something about Fate trying to drive the story the way its supposed to be. Then they made Sephiroth the final boss of what is now known to be a trilogy (bcz money)…

My absolute favorite game got ruined bcz they decided they needed to “shake the game up”. And now part 2 “Rebirth” is some multiverse bullshit.

I hate everything about this corporate BS they turned the remake into. But, I have to live with it bcz its not my game.

Best I could do is buy rebirth used from game stop so Square Enix didnt get any of my money.

Instead, I play the original from time to time, and I have to try to block out the remake changes they have made.

The franchise was so successful, that Square Enix made idiotic spinoffs and added characters to iconic scenes who weren’t there. They’ve just completely ruined the original game with how much they’ve milked the franchise. Its tragic to me, and not many people care that much.

I really wanted a remake that made the changes that were necessary to play to a modern audience, clear up the confusing story points more fleshed out so they were direct, and maybe changed up a boss or two. Basically I wanted the same thing they did with Resident Evil 4 remake, but instead we got a garbage trilogy.

kadaverin0,

Funny, I said the same thing on Reddit around the time it was released and was fucking crucified for it, lol. I called it a shallow button-masher with FFVII aesthetics and bad fanfiction for a story. I didn’t get any coherent rebuttal besides people malding over turn-based combat and how rewriting iconic scenes and plot points is good because reasons.

NocturnalMorning,

Yeah, depending on where you say this people will absolutely rail you for it. I dont understand why people are accepting of this crap.

vrighter,

imagine having never played the original (me, unfortunately, at the time). Then, what are the whispers all about?

NocturnalMorning,

I mean, its not a terrible game. I just really wish they would have stuck to the original story. If you havent played the original, thats probably a good thing when playing the remake bcz then you don’t have a comparison.

gonzo-rand19, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
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I'm going to say The Last of Us 2. I loved the first one so much, and then 2 was not what I wanted or was expecting, which completely killed any love I had for it and any desire for a larger franchise.

I was hoping for an anthology series where each game focused on a different group of people in the same universe. I loved Joel and Ellie, but I wanted their story to be over and to get a look at how other people had dealt with things.

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