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halloween_spookster, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

It’s sort of like when you’re at work and see the “quick workaround” effectively become the standard process.

Nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix

oplkill, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

I like AI because it will ruin next generations, so I will always have job as programmer who can use brain

Deceptichum, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

When the answer is to grab the fork seventeen levels back, and to not use it on the dog 3 screens before so that you had it to look at after answering a riddle written backwards in Spanish that is actually an in-joke from the devs childhood you’re damn fucking right I’m not wasting my time to “figure it out”.

Video games are not reality, I can’t look at an easily surmountable barrier and just walk over it like I could in real life to solve the issue, I have to take some deranged imagined route by a dev. I can’t logically work my way out of a situation that is some guys bullshit idea of a solution.

salacious_coaster, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

To be fair, I needed some serious help in RCT. The under the hood mechanics were NOT intuitive to me.

School_Lunch, (edited )

I haven’t played rtc in 20 yrs, but I remember completing every park task except for dinky Park. I got really close one time, but was just short when the time ran out. Just a few months ago I randomly came across a video on how to beat it, and now I want to play it again but can’t find it.

misteloct,

I replayed it recently and the hidden mechanics are just bad game design. Not docking the game but there’s no way to tell the reasons for certain scenario failures, even when addressing all the customer thoughts and using all existing information.

andros_rex, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

I wish there were more options for “hints” instead of just giving you the walkthrough. I keep getting stuck in Subnautica, but I don’t want to just make a beeline to where I need to be.

Cheating always made games boring for me. I remember doing a cheat in Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life to get all items, and it just evaporated any fun I had.

The best balance was a GameFAQs I printed out for Morrowind that just covered the first handful of quests of the game. Gave me tips for class and race selection, and just enough guidance to get my bearings.

Ethereal87, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?
@Ethereal87@beehaw.org avatar

Looks like I’ll be the negative one. I gave it a solid try dual booting for about 6 months before I went back to Windows.

I think I took for granted how much is abstracted away in Windows when it came to being my daily driver for my computer. Wrapping my head around things that “just worked” in Windows proved to be more difficult than I anticipated and I dealt with more friction. Trying to learn new concepts stood in my way of fully embracing it as well as not understanding what the “Windows equivalent” was for a given feature/function/action so I could wrap my head around it better. I also had a couple of workflows that I never got working in Linux despite all my attempts at searching for answers.

And I know people will come out of the woodwork with all sorts of questions or input on how if I just tried it again I’ll get it. For the record, I tried out Pop OS since it bills itself as a dead simple. I know the problems for me were more around my knowledge, years of built up muscle memory with Windows, and limited time to game so messing with whatever my current problem was made it more frustrating and soured me on the experience.

AstralPath,

If that was more than a year ago it might be tine to try again with Bazzite or Nobara; the latter being my personal choice.

Ethereal87,
@Ethereal87@beehaw.org avatar

Both were on my radar as well. I want to say I tried Bazzite before Pop but one of those workflows I could not solve was a problem on Bazzite (some virtual kvm switch software I’ve used forever). Nobara was almost where I went after Pop before retreating back to Windows :)

RoadTrain,

Could you give some examples of things that worked for you on Windows but couldn’t port over to Linux? I’m interested if they’re related more to games or just using Linux in general.

verdigris,

Without context this is pretty useless for OP. It sounds like you have some exotic non-gaming-related workflows and without knowing what those are it’s impossible to say if they’re anything OP would ever need to deal with.

For gaming the only non-starter at this point is games that the devs have chosen to make not work on Linux, i.e. ring 0 anti-cheats and a few other games made by assholes like Fortnite. VR is also hit and miss, for some people/systems it works nearly out of the box, for others it might be a big pain.

Ethereal87,
@Ethereal87@beehaw.org avatar

Honestly, it’s my assessment of turning my only PC, which is primarily gaming, into a Linux machine and the struggles there with day-to-day usage. I have no idea what OP’s comfort level with Linux or tech is in general but my assumption is it’s enough to think “Yeah, I could install Linux and do this.” which was where I was at too. Nothing I’m doing was exotic but the investment required in finding suitable alternatives that worked nearly out of the box was too high at the time.

Gaming was decent by all accounts. I think I had a few compatibility items that will iron out as developers support Linux more and the technology that enables gaming on Linux just gets better and better. I have an AMD card and from what I gather that’s better for switching to Linux. A lot of my frustrations were not related to gaming and I recognize the issue is time and knowledge on my part. If those are in short supply when something breaks, you could have a bad time is all I’m saying. Everyone’s got to start out somewhere and if you’ve had Windows forever, it can be a mental shift.

altkey, (edited ) do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

The bits I used gamefaqs guides for (btw I love they are still there ^_^) are rarely fun anyway. Mostly, it’s achievement grinding or 100%ing. If the game itself needs a guide to navigate it, I usually just drop it. If it fails at informing me about it’s mechanics that much it’s not for me.

otacon239, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

I played with cheats almost all the time when I was a kid, but I was rarely doing it for difficulty reasons. I just got used to the idea early on of game engines just being digital sandboxes and loved seeing how far I could push things.

I don’t really understand using cheats as a difficulty bypass unless you’re there just to get the story/explore.

I use ChatGPT similarly. If I want to explore an idea without consequence, I can use it to brainstorm, but it’s not going to be how I lay out an entire project.

Lucky_777, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

Mods. Mod the games you want to beat. Then you get a smooth experience without looking shit up.

Console is a Google search, though.

forrgott, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

The analogy makes a lot of sense to me. Once you have an “easy button”, it’s hard to not use it. It’s sort of like when you’re at work and see the “quick workaround” effectively become the standard process.

Or when you’re diving somewhere, and drivers thinking there’s an “easy button” gets people killed.

The point, I think, is that society seems to encourage “what can I get away with” while discouraging any consideration of “what should I do”. Which, well, seems pretty ass-backwards don’t you think?

Then again, we’ve never truly removed from power the progeny of those that decided beating the shit out of someone else was preferable to doing their fair share of the labor. “But what if someone tries to kick your ass? Then you’ll be glad I’m here.”

Uhh, like fucking hell I will. That kind of sociopathic fuckery has always been, and will always be, nothing but a drain on the collective effort of any society.

Tldr: I totally agree with you

Oh, and as an aside, part of me kinda hates that Re-Logic added “Journey Mode” to Terraria; I haven’t put any significant time into even one classic mode playthrough since.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ethalis, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

I’ve fallen into this exact trap when I played the HD remaster of Suikoden 1&2 a few months ago. The games still hold up pretty well but are a bit too dated to my taste to have more than a single playthrough, so I followed guides to get the perfect ending, which involves recruiting all 108 characters into your army.

At first I was just looking at a very light guide that told me which characters were missable and approximately when to get them. Then I got impatient and looked up their location and recruitment conditions. And then I ended up following a complete walkthrough step by step to make sure I wasn’t making any mistake.

That completely took the fun out of the games and I burnt out halfway through the second one.

Thevenin, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

Running Steam games on Mint, I don’t think I’ve ever run into a game that flat-out didn’t run. Usually they work out of the box. The most I’ve ever had to do was select “Force the use of a specific compatibility tool” and try out a different version of Proton from the dropdown list.

It’s been remarkably unproblematic.

Takapapatapaka, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

It makes sense for me too, and i like your cheat code version of it. I think it's also akin to the tutorial hell for devs and artists.

riskable, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

FANTASTIC! I love that 100% of the games I want to play work great without issue but what I love even more is the conveniences that Linux provides over Windows:

  • It is trivially easy to sync my configs/saves/game data across my network to different PCs with rsync -ave ssh (i.e. if I want to play on the big screen via the HTPC).
  • I can do the same with my phone using the FolderSync Android app (which supports sync over SSH just like rsync).
  • I can script stuff! Example: A lot of games (especially those with 3rd party mods) can be buggy AF and as a result of that, increase the possibility of corrupting my saves/game/world data. For these games I use rdiff-backup right there in the save/game/world directory every 10 minutes with say, 100 backups. Put that in a cron job and the worst that happens is I lose 10 minutes.
  • If the game has a server, chances are there’s already a native Linux version which means I can run it locally on my PC in the background or just sync my whole game over to another of my Linux PCs and run it there. No need for complicated setups where you have to manage things across two completely different operating systems (like Windows 11 and Windows Server 2025 ahahaha; that’s a joke poking fun at the Windows ecosystem if you don’t get it 🤣).
  • I actually have the power to control where my sound goes on the fly and it actually fucking works (unlike Windows where you get to pick one device at a time and good luck keeping that one active if you have a Bluetooth audio device that likes to lose its connection from time to time… Ugh). You can actually do weird shit like send your audio over the network to a whole home’s worth of PCs (or stream it over the Internet I guess) but I only ever did that once and man was it cool, haha. Still, it’s nice to have the option (some open source dev worked really hard to make sure that works; and fantastically well too).
  • Multiple applications can use the GPU at the same time (if you’re using Wayland) and that actually works properly. Unlike in Windows—where if you enable “hardware acceleration” in an app like Discord it can suddenly become slow AF scrolling when you’ve got a game open in the background.
  • You have vastly more control over gamepad/controllers in Linux than you do in Windows. In Windows—if your controller is detected properly (which hopefully doesn’t require that you download a ~4GB of driver/bloat app bullshit)—you can test the buttons in the Settings/Control Panel. But that’s all you can do. The X button is the X button is the X button. You want that button to send something else? You need sketchy proprietary 3rd party software for that! In Linux, you can do whatever TF you want with that button and there’s several ways to do it (qjoypad gives you a nice GUI—right there in your distro’s repositories for quick install).
  • No “You need to reboot your computer” popups in the middle of gaming/streaming!
  • You don’t need sixteen bloated system tray/processes running at all times (slowing down your PC) to keep all your stuff working! If you use a Linux desktop for a few weeks then go back to Windows you’ll get annoyed AF pretty fast at all those pop-ups, “Why did I put up with this BS?” 🤣
  • Privacy by default: HP, Nvidia, Dell, Logitech, Razer, and Microsoft can’t see that you’re playing that game that just got banned by MasterCard/Visa 🤣

Also—generally speaking—Linux is just more fun to use! Customize TF out of your desktop experience. The only thing stopping you is… you.

termus,
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Is there a co-pilot like function that can pair to controllers together? That feature with my Xbox Adaptive Controller is kind of keeping me on Windows. Or I have to give up those games.

verdigris,

I don’t understand what you mean, how do you do this in Windows?

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Through the Xbox Accessories app you can enable co-pilot mode between two Xbox controllers. So both are seen as one device. So I can use Left trigger and right trigger with my feet on the XBAC while keeping my controller in my lap and disabling the triggers on it so they are accidentally pressed.

verdigris,

Hmmm okay I understand. There might well be a dedicated program for this, but I’m also sure it’s technically possible, just maybe far from trivial.

A bit of searching turned up this, I haven’t tried it myself but it claims to offer the functionality you want: sourceforge.net/projects/linuxjoymap/

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Ooh this looks like it has some potential. I’ll give it a shot. Thanks so much!

jordanlund, do games w Can an American explain to me what's with the grooves on PS1 NTSC cases?
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a holdover from the original PS1 long boxes:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/39433790-f69b-4d17-9878-902c58c8fe10.jpeg

brap,

I have never seen those before and I owned plenty of PS1 games. Is that how the American ones looked?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, at launch in 1995 they were all like that.

glimse,

Really?? I got a PS1 when they were pretty new and all of my games are in standard jewel cases.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The first 100 or so PS1 games in 1995 and 1996 were in the long boxes, then they shifted to the CD cases.

www.giantbomb.com/profile/marino/lists/…/359078/

glimse,

Wow, it’s not like I was doing the shopping myself in 1995 but I’m still surprised I’ve never seen one of these!

Carighan,
@Carighan@piefed.world avatar

That's fascinating. Why where those like it? To not slide around so easily?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I think it was just a design differentiator. Saturn and Sega CD cases looked like oversized CD cases.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6778b828-d906-4c60-85c9-8d45188114c5.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/adeedf0a-efce-480f-91cf-947de90be8cc.jpeg

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