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Thevenin, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

Running Steam games on Mint, I don’t think I’ve ever run into a game that flat-out didn’t run. Usually they work out of the box. The most I’ve ever had to do was select “Force the use of a specific compatibility tool” and try out a different version of Proton from the dropdown list.

It’s been remarkably unproblematic.

Takapapatapaka, do gaming w This happened to me in Roller Coaster Tycoon and The Sims.

It makes sense for me too, and i like your cheat code version of it. I think it's also akin to the tutorial hell for devs and artists.

riskable, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?
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FANTASTIC! I love that 100% of the games I want to play work great without issue but what I love even more is the conveniences that Linux provides over Windows:

  • It is trivially easy to sync my configs/saves/game data across my network to different PCs with rsync -ave ssh (i.e. if I want to play on the big screen via the HTPC).
  • I can do the same with my phone using the FolderSync Android app (which supports sync over SSH just like rsync).
  • I can script stuff! Example: A lot of games (especially those with 3rd party mods) can be buggy AF and as a result of that, increase the possibility of corrupting my saves/game/world data. For these games I use rdiff-backup right there in the save/game/world directory every 10 minutes with say, 100 backups. Put that in a cron job and the worst that happens is I lose 10 minutes.
  • If the game has a server, chances are there’s already a native Linux version which means I can run it locally on my PC in the background or just sync my whole game over to another of my Linux PCs and run it there. No need for complicated setups where you have to manage things across two completely different operating systems (like Windows 11 and Windows Server 2025 ahahaha; that’s a joke poking fun at the Windows ecosystem if you don’t get it 🤣).
  • I actually have the power to control where my sound goes on the fly and it actually fucking works (unlike Windows where you get to pick one device at a time and good luck keeping that one active if you have a Bluetooth audio device that likes to lose its connection from time to time… Ugh). You can actually do weird shit like send your audio over the network to a whole home’s worth of PCs (or stream it over the Internet I guess) but I only ever did that once and man was it cool, haha. Still, it’s nice to have the option (some open source dev worked really hard to make sure that works; and fantastically well too).
  • Multiple applications can use the GPU at the same time (if you’re using Wayland) and that actually works properly. Unlike in Windows—where if you enable “hardware acceleration” in an app like Discord it can suddenly become slow AF scrolling when you’ve got a game open in the background.
  • You have vastly more control over gamepad/controllers in Linux than you do in Windows. In Windows—if your controller is detected properly (which hopefully doesn’t require that you download a ~4GB of driver/bloat app bullshit)—you can test the buttons in the Settings/Control Panel. But that’s all you can do. The X button is the X button is the X button. You want that button to send something else? You need sketchy proprietary 3rd party software for that! In Linux, you can do whatever TF you want with that button and there’s several ways to do it (qjoypad gives you a nice GUI—right there in your distro’s repositories for quick install).
  • No “You need to reboot your computer” popups in the middle of gaming/streaming!
  • You don’t need sixteen bloated system tray/processes running at all times (slowing down your PC) to keep all your stuff working! If you use a Linux desktop for a few weeks then go back to Windows you’ll get annoyed AF pretty fast at all those pop-ups, “Why did I put up with this BS?” 🤣
  • Privacy by default: HP, Nvidia, Dell, Logitech, Razer, and Microsoft can’t see that you’re playing that game that just got banned by MasterCard/Visa 🤣

Also—generally speaking—Linux is just more fun to use! Customize TF out of your desktop experience. The only thing stopping you is… you.

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Is there a co-pilot like function that can pair to controllers together? That feature with my Xbox Adaptive Controller is kind of keeping me on Windows. Or I have to give up those games.

verdigris,

I don’t understand what you mean, how do you do this in Windows?

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Through the Xbox Accessories app you can enable co-pilot mode between two Xbox controllers. So both are seen as one device. So I can use Left trigger and right trigger with my feet on the XBAC while keeping my controller in my lap and disabling the triggers on it so they are accidentally pressed.

verdigris,

Hmmm okay I understand. There might well be a dedicated program for this, but I’m also sure it’s technically possible, just maybe far from trivial.

A bit of searching turned up this, I haven’t tried it myself but it claims to offer the functionality you want: sourceforge.net/projects/linuxjoymap/

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Ooh this looks like it has some potential. I’ll give it a shot. Thanks so much!

jordanlund, do games w Can an American explain to me what's with the grooves on PS1 NTSC cases?
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a holdover from the original PS1 long boxes:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/39433790-f69b-4d17-9878-902c58c8fe10.jpeg

brap,

I have never seen those before and I owned plenty of PS1 games. Is that how the American ones looked?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, at launch in 1995 they were all like that.

glimse,

Really?? I got a PS1 when they were pretty new and all of my games are in standard jewel cases.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The first 100 or so PS1 games in 1995 and 1996 were in the long boxes, then they shifted to the CD cases.

www.giantbomb.com/profile/marino/lists/…/359078/

glimse,

Wow, it’s not like I was doing the shopping myself in 1995 but I’m still surprised I’ve never seen one of these!

Carighan,
@Carighan@piefed.world avatar

That's fascinating. Why where those like it? To not slide around so easily?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I think it was just a design differentiator. Saturn and Sega CD cases looked like oversized CD cases.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6778b828-d906-4c60-85c9-8d45188114c5.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/adeedf0a-efce-480f-91cf-947de90be8cc.jpeg

djsoren19, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

I started out using an old Nvidia Geforce 1060 TI and an i5 whose model number now escapes me. My experience was terrible, on Mint, Ubuntu, and Bazzite. Most games didn’t work, and researching the error messages I found in my logs just directed me to Nvidia forum posts from 6 months to a year ago where a user described my exact issue and received no response.

Then, I purchased a new pre-fab computer with an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D processor and a Radeon RX 9060 XT GPU. I still had a handful of issues on Ubuntu, so I switched to Bazzite and it’s been smooth sailing ever since. I can run the vast majority of games through Steam, and use Bottles for anything else.

The lesson I learned was fuck Nvidia. Team Red 4 lyfe.

thisbenzingring,

its not NVIDIA’s fault that Mint, Ubuntu and Bazzite can’t implement a driver properly. I have never had a problem with the multiple NVIDIA cards I have used with my Arch installs.

Jambalaya,

I had the same experience on those three and popos with my 2070. Then I switched to Endeavoros and finally things worked. Since then, my Nvidia card works just as well as Windows.

CubitOom, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

All my games work, however I avoid games that require kernel level root kits to run so your mileage may vary.

If you ever have an issue with a game running under proton. Look up the game in ProtonDB and make sure to use the filter to match your hardware.

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

I get avoiding those games on principal… but is there any harm that can come from playing those through Linux?

CubitOom,

Its a kernel level rootkit, so if you have that installed your computer is no longer yours. They could in theory, read your RAM and use it to read encryption keys and have full access to your system and you would never know.

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

A kernel level rootkit for windows though. What is it going to have access to in Linux? Isn’t it just reading Proton’s windows files that are created for each game ran through it?

CubitOom,

You may be right, but I don’t know enough about proton to say it’s a well isolated sandboxed environment. I’d rather not have it on my PC at all.

verdigris,

They won’t run on proton. “Kernel-level” means it’s well below the level that Proton runs at.

termus,
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Helldivers 2 runs fine through Proton with it’s anti-cheat. It was claimed to be kernel level.

verdigris,

My understanding is that actual kernel-level software would have to at least have a Linux-specific driver included. Otherwise if it really is running entirely through Proton, it’s somehow faking the ring 0 access. I’m not entirely sure, but I do think that anti-cheat must work differently from the big ones like FACEIT and Valorant.

steal_your_face, do games w Secret of evermore has some gigeresque visuals. I should probably attempt to finish the game but here are some screenshots
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

I forgot about this game but I LOVED it as a kid

Malix, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?
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So far, everything mostly works. Occasionally I have to tinker with some environment variables to get some games working, but so far everything I have tried has been playable.

I have ryzen 5800x3d, 32 GB ram, rtx3090, 1440p 120hz gsync screen, nvme + bunch of other drives. Running Arch (wayland, kde plasma), games installed from steam/gog + few standalones from regular installers. Mostly I use proton-ge, but some games run fine with just wine. ntsync + wayland enabled.

some games (eg. PEAK) have MASSIVE flicker unless I explicitly disable wayland support for them (PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=0), and then it’s fine.

Only thing really lacking is performance, eg. Cyberpunk 2077 with RT is slower than on Win10. It still does about 60 fps, but the dips below are way more harsh. AFAIK this is a thing accross the board with DX12 games with current nvidia driver, supposedly there’s a fix cooking, but we’ll see.

I don’t play competetive pvp games at all, so I can’t speak for those. But so far friends only co-op & single player games have worked just fine.

verdigris,

Hmm, I haven’t had this issue with Peak and I’m running Wayland… But I do run AMD.

Malix,
@Malix@sopuli.xyz avatar

are you using the env variable to enable it for the game? AFAIK it’s not enabled by default, and It dawned on me that I have it enabled on /usr/share/steam/compatibilitytools.d/proton-ge-custom/user_settings.py (the config file for proton-ge). But it could still be nvidia issue, wouldn’t surprise me

verdigris,

Ahh okay no I’m pretty sure that isn’t being explicitly enabled.

thisbenzingring, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

I use Arch and its fantastic! Sure some of the multiplayer games with bullshit DRM won’t work (only because the companies will ban you even though the tech is working as expected FU EPIC)

Once you get your system functioning the way you want it, you almost never have to worry about a patch breaking your shit. That is unless you customized your video drivers or the kernel.

chiliedogg, do games w Secret of evermore has some gigeresque visuals. I should probably attempt to finish the game but here are some screenshots

The alchemy system is really unique.

SonOfAntenora,

It’s more interesting than the magic sistem in secret of mana, and maybe more balanced. Secret of mana is the closest game to this one in terms of mechanic, but there’s a certain tiger boss that is required to unlock the magic system and it’s something else entirely.

chiliedogg,

That tiger in SoM is so awful.

jimmux,
@jimmux@programming.dev avatar

I always wondered why Secret of Mana gets the attention, and Evermore is largely forgotten. It has a doggy companion!

capt_wolf,

I don’t feel like the story telling was as good in Evermore. Secret of Mana grabbed me a lot more with it’s characters and it’s difficulty, and I always loved the plot despite some pretty obvious flaws. The music is still one of the best ever soundtracks too.

I think Evermore also got completely overshadowed by Chrono Trigger being released just 2 months before in the US.

jimmux,
@jimmux@programming.dev avatar

It was a very basic story with a self-insert character, probably intended for a younger audience. That worked very well for me at the time. I think it was my first RPG so I really enjoyed getting lost in those environments.

asmoranomar,

Evermore also had a lot of bugs. I remember getting softlocked so many times in the game. SoM had a few bugs too, but I didn’t recall being softlocked as often.

Rai,

I’ve beaten them both a few times. I’m not sure you can get softlocked in mana, but yeaahhhh getting softlocked in Evermore is brutal!

Afflictedlife,
@Afflictedlife@lemmy.ml avatar

But I liked chain casting infinite moon mp drain and damage spells to kill lock every boss.

MaggiWuerze, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?
@MaggiWuerze@feddit.org avatar

As long as it is Steam it basically works seamlessly, unless it uses some weird ass DRM like Denuvo. Outside of that it basically depends on the game. Diablo 4 worked well, Anno 1800 or the new Anno 117 Demo did not (Denuvo, I think). Lutris helps witha lot of these but it’s still not sure

verdigris,

Denuvo is not a blocker for Linux, anti-cheat is the main one.

Venus_Ziegenfalle, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?
@Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org avatar

Proton generally works pretty well but there is a slight performance hit. Depending on your setup you may not even notice it but especially with some less recent GPUs it can make a substantial difference. Games that run natively usually run an well or better compared to Windows. And then there’s a few that don’t work on Linux because of some anticheat but I don’t play online a lot so no idea about the specifics.

_Lory98_,

I generally hear about better performance on linux due the os being lighter, except for issues with dx12 on nvidia. Is that what you are referring to?

Venus_Ziegenfalle,
@Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org avatar

Yup

_Lory98_,

Ok thanks. I’m on AMD so I hope it’s not a problem.

termus,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Frame time pacing seems to be a lot better through Proton. Elden Ring runs better on my Steam Deck than my i5 13600k & 4090.

verdigris,

I think that’s pretty specific to Elden Ring – it’s had that stuttering bug since launch on Windows and while they made it better it still happens, but for whatever quirk of Proton it never happened on Linux.

Malgas, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

I’ve been on NixOS for a little over a year, and have been absolutely delighted at how well gaming works now. I initially thought I would dual boot until Windows 10 EoL, but have had no reason to use Windows in that time and a couple months ago I converted my storage disk from ntfs to ext4.

Steam is nearly seamless; there have been one or two titles where I’ve had to switch the Proton version to experimental or GE, but nothing more than that. Heroic and Lutris have been similarly easy for non-Steam games. There has been nothing that I have tried to play that hasn’t worked, but I don’t play multiplayer games so YMMV there.

That said, this is not my first rodeo with Linux. I used it extensively in the late '00s and early '10s, which probably helped to sand some of the rough edges off of my recent experience. Though back then wine was not really suitable for gaming. I also have an AMD GPU, which I understand has an easier setup process than Nvidia. (I literally haven’t had to think about graphics drivers at all.)

Afflictedlife, do games w Secret of evermore has some gigeresque visuals. I should probably attempt to finish the game but here are some screenshots
@Afflictedlife@lemmy.ml avatar

Ah the bug muck. I once made it to the Greek area before moving on to seiken densetsu 3 which I also did not finish because I went back and played through chrono trigger again even though I’ve finished it like 5 times on multiple platforms. Why some games never get finished is a mystery. It’s not a bad game for square usa’s first game.

SonOfAntenora,

I mean, chrono trigger is chrono trigger after all.

Afflictedlife,
@Afflictedlife@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes very magnetic, very hard to resist. Let us know when you reach the new area eh?

jjjalljs, do gaming w What are your experiences using Linux for gaming?

My old desktop I went with Linux mint. I had some trouble with the installer that I didn’t solve, but switching to slightly older but still supported version of mint worked. Games worked out of the box with steam.

I was playing a MUD for a while (I’m old, but aardwolf is still going). They have a special client you can use. That worked just fine through WINE.

On my newer desktop, I tried mint. I foolishly didn’t test much on the live disk, and only after installing did I realize HDMI, Ethernet, WiFi, didn’t work. Proton also crashed explosively. That was a bad time.

I then tried pop!_os and that has worked fine. I haven’t played much yet on it- just my usual guild wars 2 and binding of Isaac, but it’s been fine.

There was a weird issue with audio crackling in gw2, but I think I fixed that by changing a setting somewhere.

I also recently installed mint on a ~2014 MacBook Air. Not for gaming, but so it can get security updates and stuff. I needed to fuss with grub - something I never would have figured out on my own by someone on stack exchange had figured out - and now it works fine. Haven’t done any games on it, but I bet it could run really light stuff better than it could have as a Mac.

Generally, I’m a big fan of it not nagging me. It doesn’t ask me to use OneDrive. It doesn’t want me to make an account anywhere. Pretty much everything can be changed if you’re determined enough. I’m pretty easy to please though, so all I’ve done for customization is add a clock widget to the desktop and turn off edge tiling.

One thing that I expect might be a headache is mods. A lot of mod tooling I think makes assumptions about windows. There’s probably a way to run like vortex in the same environment as whenever proton puts the game, but I’m not sure how to do it. You can also probably find where the game files are easily and edit them. I’m hoping the community starts adopting Linux more so people write guides (and please write them on the public web instead of making 20 minute videos or burying them in discord)

Luckily Baldur’s gate 3 (which also runs fine) has its own mod manager, and that works fine.

Oh, I did have a weird thing once where the desktop environment had a keybind that was interfering with a game once. I think middle click, maybe? I forget exactly what it was, but I just unmapped the keybind in the desktop env and the game was then fine.

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