Doesn’t change the fact that the few fans it had can’t play it ever again, game is still killed because it had no support for community servers, just matchmaking.
I for sure would prefer to host my own The Crew and not getting a refund.
I feel it’s rather fair to give them a pass on this one. Games with a player base and longer than a passing fart of time in the market? Sure. This was a failed product. They issued refunds. This is a situation where pushing your luck just backs someone into a corner.
We can hope they’ll flip the assets and remodel into another title.
Yeah, they did handle it correctly. All things considered. Even in an utopian future where the stopkillinggames.com campaign is successful. Personally I would still prefer to keep all games alive.
Honestly, I’m a bit skeptical of StopKillingGames. It feels like a good thing, but it also comes off as naive. Like the whole “just distribute the server” requirement is impossible with the way modern games are developed, and may be cost-prohibitive to implement for most developers well into the future. Besides, some games really are less like a painting and more like a musical; performance art necessarily has to end at some point, so it’s all about the experience and the memories. Nobody complains when the actors take a bow, because that’s the expectation.
“Just distribute the server” isn’t a requirement. It has never been a requirement. Who said that’s a requirement?
It’s just a possible solution. And to me it seems to be the easiest since that is the exact way it used to be done.
What exactly publishers will have to do depends entirely on if the campaign is successful and how the resulting laws are written. And may be as simple as an expiration date on all future game sales.
Been playing a lot ofDeadlock still, finally getting a grasp of how to play it feels like. Took a while to understand priorities and what to focus on and how to execute builds. Still held back a bit by my aim, but found enough ability-based heroes to still be able to perform. It’s a very fun game! I can’t play too many games in a row because it gets intense and stressful, but I’m really enjoying it.
I’ve also been playing Deus Ex: Human Revolution for the first time as something more relaxing and story based. It’s been alright so far. Don’t think it’s been hitting the heights of the original Deus Ex so far, but it’s enjoyable enough.
For Oblivion, there is Skyblivion coming out next year.
Not sure what you hope would be added in a “remake” though. You’re asking for something which would inherently do very little and be exactly the sort of cash grab that we normally condemn. You want these games with better graphics or mechanics? Play with mods.
I wouldn’t hold your breath on it. That mod collection has been in development for many years now. They keep pushing the release date forward, and even when it is released, it’s still built off of the really old Skyrim game engine. People who want a remake, not a remaster, want a game that has the same capabilities but with a newer game engine. It really does matter, because it affects what is possible to do in the game. You can’t just use the old outdated game engine and upscale the graphics. It’s simply will not be possible and will be sluggish, slow as hell. Look at Starfield. Utter failure because many people expected it to have a new game engine. The one it has now is just not up to par
Skyrim has not the same engine as Oblivion and Starfield has not the same engine as Skyrim. There always were huge upgrades and changes to the engine, saying that Starfield has the same engine is like saying that Unreal 5 is the same old engine as Unreal 1. It is the same engine in the same way as I am the same as my father or grandfather. We share lots of features and DNA and have the same last name, but we are very different in many ways.
The DNA example might be a bad comparison to make, though, when hereditary illnesses are also a comparison you could make to an engine that has the same flaws as it’s predecessors.
Hopefully whatever they do next with their engine moves away from the cells and worldspaces model of their previous engines. After all of Starfield’s criticisms, they need to move away from loadscreen triggers as much as possible.
The cells and worldspaces are needed for a engine that allows huge amounts of persistent dynamic objects that can be removed from and added to the world freely., That is the reason why we don’t see games with large worlds like this in other engines. Even more so when the game has to run on consoles too. Neither No Man’s Sky, nor Outer Worlds or Cyberpunk have worlds or places full of persistent dynamic objects, nearly everything is static and hard baked into the world.
Whenever people criticise Bethesda games for their engine, I pretty much assume right away they know nothing about game development. Bethesda’s engine is something they have a lot of control over and can constantly improve and iterate on. It’s not as though Starfield and Morrowind are running on the exact same codebase.
Starfield is bad because of bad game design, not bad game development. Skyrim was buggy on release as well, and yet people loved it because the design of the game was good enough that people were willing to forgive the programming flaws. People overvalue the engine in discussions about Bethesda games and it’s become this meme among people to seem like they sound like they know what they’re talking about, but ultimately the flaws in Bethesda games that determine their success has very little to do with what engine they use.
Also, the Skyblivion team is constantly releasing dev diaries showing the progress, and the mod is nearly finished. It looks very well done, and the whole thing is out in the open. There’s no reason to be cynical about whether it will ever release when you can literally go look at the progress with your own eyes.
OpenMW counts as a remake of Morrowind, kinda. It only changes the game engine though.
But like, officially? Pretty unlikely. Which is fine, the old games are still good, easily available, and very playable. I’d rather that than Bethesda’s new games get delayed in favor of remaking old ones, and then the remakes completely change what the old games were into something they were not.
Not really, because it is in it’s core the same engine with the same limitations. It has the same worldspace and cell system as the original engine from Morrowind. Yes it has shader (a modern feature that is in the creation engine at least since Fallout 76, most likely even Fallout 4) and a LUA script engine besides the official creation script engine. This could be added to the engine very easily and that the Creation Engine doesn’t has this is a design decision not a engine limitation.
OpenMW is awesome, no arguments there. But it is really “just” an incredibly patched and modernized version of the Morrowind era gamebryo. One could argue it is comparable to if Bethesda ported Morrowind to Skyrim (they would be very much exaggerating but…).
But issues regarding level geometry, animations, world/cell space? All of that is still there.
It’s definitely not the fastest but it’s really close.
The fastest full shutdown currently belongs to The Culling 2 which only lasted 2 days between launch and being closed completely.
The Day Before is another big example of a game that lasted an incredibly short time but despite that game lasting 4 days before no longer being sold, the games servers stayed on much longer than that meaning that it was shut down after Concord despite being cancelled before it.
Including joke reviews, the game had a 16% rating and was so poorly made that within those 2 days it killed the popularity of both Culling games extremely quickly.
The first game was popular because it was a twist on the genre while the 2nd one was a quickly thrown together (almost exact) clone of DayZ.
The word scam was thrown around a lot in those 2 days.
Sounds like the first was made with the mindset of, “it would be cool to make a game that does x, let’s do that and see if it will make money” while the second one was more of a, “all we gotta do is make a game that does x and we’ll make a ton of money!”
As far as I know no engine out there is able to do what the creation engine can, and that is having world spaces with tons of persistent dynamic objects. If they would switch to another engine they would loose one of their core elements of the game, the possibility to take all the junk that is laying around in the world or to add things literally wherever the player wants. But this feature comes with the price that the world spaces have to be comparted in cells which are separate by loading screens. This can be minimized with streaming and dynamic data transfers but this has its limits too, even more so on resources constraint systems like consoles.
I’m still curious to see, if the Microsoft leadership pushes them to do that, especially with the more recent titles being duds, but in general, I don’t expect them to do it, because:
As others said, mods and community remakes like OpenMW, Skywind, Skyblivion etc. reduce the value that an official remake would have. They would need to deliver something much better, otherwise they’ll get ridiculed.
They don’t have an amazing story or anything like that, where there’s a strong argument for playing an old title rather than a new title.
Their engine hasn’t made that many amazing advances since Oblivion. To make things look better, they’d pretty much need to update all the textures, which is a lot of work.
Go play Fallout London. It’s a bitch to install and has more bugs than an ant colony but it’s the best Fallout since New Vegas imo. Even in it’s rough around the edges state you can tell it is a love letter to Fallout and is so good its canon for me regardless of what the will of Todd may ultimately decide.
If you have any issues installing the game and getting it stable please reach out to me. There was also a nearly gamebreaking issue with semi auto rifle damage being grossly under calculated that I can help with as well. If Fallout 3 and NV are your favorite games you really should play it and that goes for anyone else who stumbles on this comment. It’s just so good.
Exec 1: Should we do research into what gamers want to play?
Exec 2: Nah, just smush together whatever everybody else is doing, slap on a new coat of paint, and then ship that shit. The idiots will eat it up and we’ll be rich.
Gamers: Who asked for this? I didn’t ask for this. I don’t want to play this shit. I’ve got better shit that I can play for free.
There have definitely been times that copying other people worked out well.
Fortnite and Apex copied the BR trend when PUBG wasn’t satisfying everyone’s needs. The former even lazily reskinned a zombie defense game for the battle royale approach. Lots of games reskin the theme of Dark Souls and do okay.
Even if it’s lazy or uninventive, once in a while one of those reskins has a particular element of the concept it reinvents in a much better way. Seems Concord never came up with any such ideas, which could have been great since many people are currently tired of Overwatch specifically.
Those aren’t re-skins though, they just used the battle royals game type as their main game type.
I can’t really think of a similar game to fortnite before it in regards to the combination of building and competitive shooter, although I’m sure someone can point out an early example, and Apex is smashing together counterstrike and maybe overwatch or something similar for the gameplay.
Personally I don’t think apex would have worked if it just looked like a re-skin but its got a lot of great artwork and the level designs are interesting at least to me.
Also fortnite has become the everything game, they have Lego and rocket racing and a guitar hero minigame, its sort of gone wild IMO.
You could build up your base (also a defense map) pretty freely, but it was never unlimited resources creative. You’re right to be confused by this comment
Save The World isn’t sandbox or everything and was the only launch mode for the game. It had more mobile gacha practices than anything tbh. I get thinking that seeing as it has taken cues from Roblox, but it isn’t reality
There have been a number of voxel shooter that have shipped lowkey since Minecraft that attempted to add block placement to the team v team ticket shooter, e.g. Ace of Spades.
Remaking them in the same tired-ass engine would only make them worse and it’s not likely they will ever give up their Frankenstein’s monster of GameBryo in favor of something that isn’t a pile of dogshit.
The last few re-releases of Skyrim where they updated some visual features and added new content (most of which they didn’t make) is as close to a remaster or remake they will actually do.
I’ve known about this for a while. Sadly, I don’t think it’ll ever be finished. Even if it is, Skyrim is an extremely old engine and looks like crap, runs like crap. I modded the hell out of it with 4k graphics on an RTX 4070… It’s just awful. The engine isn’t great. They need to make something new. Even Starfield had the same old ass dated engine.
Most of the work is done and they are aiming to release next year, at this point I’d be surprised if it doesn’t get done.
In any case, this is a project that a lot of people have been working on, for free, for over a decade, I wouldn’t tell them it will look like crap even if I really thought so.
What does “4k graphics” even mean? Did you just install 4k textures for everything or what? Either way, you can get modded Skyrim to look very beautiful, without being insanely demanding. I guess it depends on your resolution, but a 4070 should be able to manage it just fine, so I’m not sure what you did.
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