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lath, do games w Oblivion Remastered troubleshooting

C:\Program Files\

Lol. Don’t install games there. Hell, don’t install games on the same drive as Windows.

ianhclark510,
@ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Windows: you installed programs in a folder called program files? Unpossible!

Also look at mister money bags here with multiple drives

lath,

Yup. Windows is complicated like that.

And yes, I am rich… in spirit.

AnyOldName3,
@AnyOldName3@lemmy.world avatar

As someone else said, installing things outside of Program Files is generally only necessary if they were made for XP or older, and the developers didn’t test on Vista or newer or read the bit of the Windows documentation that said not to write to an application’s installation directory because it might not work on future versions that was there since the early nineties. Regular Oblivion works fine in Program Files (although it makes it more of a pain to mod) and the Remaster was obviously made post-Vista.

All that said, none of this is relevant because you’ve got the Windows App version, which uses a completely different system and works in a partial sandbox so doesn’t interact with the rest of the computer like a traditional program would.

ianhclark510,
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Well shit, I wish the Elder Scrolls guys would talk to the guys that make Microsoft and figure this out, this is a terrible customer experience

Aielman15, do games w Oblivion Remastered Impressions (and Discussion Thread)
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I’m honestly surprised that so many people longed to return to Oblivion. The game’s as bad now as it was 20 years ago - janky combat, horrible dialogue, bugs galore. They gave it a nice coat of paint, but the moment you transition from dialogue to gameplay, you go back to the same animations from the original game. It’s kind of eerie looking at a game with modern graphics and such dated gameplay.

There are so many games nowadays that do what Oblivion attempted to do, so much better.

simple,

There are so many games nowadays that do what Oblivion attempted to do, so much better.

Such as?

DeathsEmbrace,

Probably just false sense. Staples in the game industry for a reason. Bethesda fell on there sword with Fallout 76 but these games still don’t have good competition or you wouldn’t have so many Skyrim reruns?

Oka,

Skyrim (2008), Skyrim (2012), Skyrim (2016), Skyrim (2020), Skyrim (2022), and Skyrim (2024)

(My years may be off)

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

i generally agree with the point you are making because Oblivion is my favorite TES game, but I just got done playing Avowed which is pretty good. defintiely not as deep as oblivion in many areas though.

Aielman15, (edited )
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know if you’re asking sarcastically or not, but I’d mention Divinity 2, Baldur’s Gate 3, Witcher 3, and those are just the most popular/universally acclaimed. I feel all three of them offer the same sense of adventure and exploration in an open world map, with actually interesting side content, engaging combat system, and voice acting that doesn’t scream “we’re being held in the recording room against our will, please save us”. They are also relatively bug-free, or at least not broken the way Bethesda titles are.

Back in the days, I think Gothic had the same clunky gameplay but at least offered a much deeper worldbuilding and more interesting choices.

You can also widen the search by changing the parameters. The thing that sets Oblivion apart is that it attempted to do a lot of things, but everything is either shallow, poorly executed, or outright bugged. If you take a look at other titles that did some of the things Oblivion did, there are countless that executed those ideas a lot better. Fable 2, Dragon Age, Avowed for example, and again, I’m only mentioning the most famous ones.

ceenote,

Skyrim is the same way. I really hope they adopt combat similar to Mordhau or Chivalry for ES6, but that seems about as likely as them firing Emil Pagliarulo to bring the writing standard back up.

Also, the characters still look vaguely horrifying, just in a more crisp but less charming way than they used to.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

One man is not responsible for all of your criticisms of writing in their games for decades. The writing and development processes of games are too opaque for you to be able to attribute anything to one person on teams as large as Bethesda’s.

ceenote,

It was a joke, Emil, I’m sorry I hurt your feelings.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, don’t try to pass this off as, “I was only joking, bro”. People get real death threats when this kind of shit happens in forums. I remember the Jennifer Hepler stuff, and there was just as much expert analysis that went into her witch hunt back then.

ceenote,

Don’t mix criticisms of how someone does their job with encouraging death threats. He is the head writer. If the writing has gotten worse, it’s his responsibility.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, I’ve seen the “criticism”, and you can’t point it all at one person, hence the problem. You make a target out of someone without understanding it.

ceenote,

I said he should be fired, and nothing else. You are putting words in my mouth and clearly arguing in bad faith. Feel free to take the last word if it makes you feel better, there’s no point in continuing to talk to you.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The first person who attributed issues at BioWare to Jennifer Hepler, without understanding how any of it works, only called for her to be fired too.

scrubbles,
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I feel as though the combat is much cleaner in my book. Yes it’s based off a 20 year game, it’s not going to match the witcher in sword play, but it’s not annoying anymore to me.

Montagge,

Still better combat than Fromsoft games

darkkite,

I like the quests more than skyrim

zipzoopaboop, do games w Fishing games?

Monster of the deep final Fantasy 15

hobbsc, do games w Fishing games?
@hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I always find myself coming back to Sega Bass Fishing. The old arcade/Dreamcast game.

RowRowRowYourBot, do games w Fishing games?

Ok nothing will beat the gold standard that was Sega Dreamcast Fishing games with the rod controller that had a rumble pack for vibration. I had a buddy make a wooden box we could attach a bungie cord to give it more feel when you “pulled” the fish out of water (the box had cutouts to hold beer cans too). Simply the best way to virtually fish

Grangle1,

Although the concept of it being in a Sonic game was pretty silly (and an entire path to play through no less) and the character is really annoying, I heard that even the Big the Cat fishing mode in Sonic Adventure (originally on the Dreamcast) was even good, gameplay-wise. I have played it but I don’t have much experience in other fishing games to compare it to. The only other fishing (mini-)game I have for comparison is the fishing in the 3D Zelda games. Between the two I think I prefer Zelda, though.

RowRowRowYourBot,

It was ok but the ocean/sea/bass fishing games were amazing. I really just want a compatible rod controller. I dont even like fishing IRL.

Ouchie1, do games w Fishing games?

Nice Day for Fishing might be worth checking out. It’s a new game made by the YouTubers Viva La Dirt League. Haven’t played it but looks like a fun twist on a fishing RPG.

Noerknhar,

Thank you, I’ll try the demo!

RowRowRowYourBot, do games w Oblivion Remastered Impressions (and Discussion Thread)

Has anyone played this on the Steam deck yet?

DoucheBagMcSwag,

According to Reddit you get 15-20 fps when I’m lowest settings that make it look worse than the 2008 game

RowRowRowYourBot,

oof, thanks

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

See my reply to this user above, but yea don’t bother buying it if you only have the Steam Deck. Cheaper and a better experience to buy the original on GOG.

You always have the option to get a full refund within the first 2 hours of gameplay on Steam though, if you want to see the performance for yourself.

RowRowRowYourBot,

The original sold by Steam doesn’t work on the deck so Im not sure GoG’s version will

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

GOG version runs great for me. I just installed via Lutris using Proton Experimental, no problems to speak of while playing so far.

RowRowRowYourBot,

Then I’ll have to look into that thanks!

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

I will say, I’m running in Desktop mode and using keyboard+mouse. Presumably controller works, but I haven’t actually tried in handheld mode.

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

I can confirm, even trying several different combos of optimizer mods, plus running the resolution at 1280x720, it stutters like crazy as soon as you get out of the initial area surrounding the Imperial City and looks like dogshit because of everything at low or lowest.

Baldur’s Gate 3 with almost 100 mods (including optimizers), and similar upscaling settings at 1920x1080 in Desktop mode, runs smoother and looks better on the Steam Deck.

Since the remaster is literally using the same game logic as the original, I ended up just installing the GOG version of the GOTY edition, installed a bunch of mods, and it runs amazing. I don’t think I’m missing much in the way of changes/improvements.

setsneedtofeed, do games w Fishing games?
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Far Cry 5 strangely has very enjoyable fishing.

raltoid,

The varied enviroment really helps.

You can stand on a leafy, forested river bank with deer grazing nearby in the reeds as the sun rises. It can be the dock of a large lake with boats driving by during the day. Or you can be by a tiny rocky mountain lake shore as the sun sets over the distant hills. It’s can be really relaxing(as long as you’ve cleared the are and aren’t attacked by a wild animal)

sugar_in_your_tea, do games w I'm bored and desperately search for a proper game

It seems like you like games with a lot of replayability, as well as games that make you think a bit. I’m a bit of the opposite (I like shorter, unique experiences), but I also like games that make me think. So here are a few that I’ve enjoyed that I think fit the bill:

  • deck-building roguelikes, like Slay the Spire, Balatro, etc; you can get a lot of hours in it, they generally don’t have DLC, and they’re more on the “thinking” vs “combat” end of the roguelike spectrum
  • Planet Coaster or Parkitect - theme park themed “city builder”; Planet Coaster is a bit of a DLC-fest, but Parkitect only has 2 (and a soundtrack); look around the various “tycoon” games if you like the genre, they can have good replayability
  • "coding" games - Human Resource Machine, Opus Magnum, etc; these have poor replayability (mostly just optimizing solutions), but there’s a lot of thinking and you can get a lot of hours out of it if you don’t look up guides; they’re not for everyone, but if they are, they’re very satisfying
  • Dwarf Fortress - the management game, and perhaps the best in the world at replayability; the Steam version is a huge upgrade, but you can also get the classic version for free, though do be aware that the learning curve is a lot higher than the Steam version
  • Sid Meier’s Pirates - old game, but I get a lot of hours in it and find it absolutely fantastic; this is more combat than thinking, but it’s more thinking than something like Mount and Blade (combat is relatively slow)
  • Tropico series - they do have DLC, but you can frequently find a bundle on Humble Bundle or Fanatical or something with all the DLC included for the older games; not as sandbox-y as Cities Skylines, but still largely in that vein

That said, I want to echo what others have said and to recommend branching out. There are tons of great indie games that aren’t a total ripoff in a variety of genres, so look around for bundles or something to find something new to try.

SirBobboIV,

You should try Shroom and Gloom

sugar_in_your_tea,

Shroom and Gloom

This one? It certainly looks interesting!

SirBobboIV,

That’s the one!

Yermaw, do games w Oblivion Remastered Impressions (and Discussion Thread)

I’m disappointed with it, but that’s my problem. I can’t put my finger on why, I think my expectations have changed. Somehow I was expecting it to blow me away like the first time I played it and obviously it just can’t do that.

Still gonna sink a fair few hours into it though.

Novamdomum, do games w Fishing games?
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

The games I've really enjoyed fishing in so far have been:

My Time At Portia
Palia
Spiritfarer

Of those 3 I've easily spent the most time in Portia. I really love the fishing in that game and when you get the super valuable fish you really feel like you earnt it :)

Noerknhar,

I have Sandrock on PC. Does that also have fishing? 🤔

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

Yeah it kinda does. It's this weird sandfishing minigame though with a kind of claw thing that you throw out. Nowhere near as fun as the fishing in Portia imho.

FreeBooteR69, do games w Oblivion Remastered Impressions (and Discussion Thread)
@FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca avatar

I like the remaster, it plays much better than the original of course. The graphics at first were really sluggish/choppy, but i found disabling the steam overlay fixed it for me.

SatanClaus, do games w Oblivion Remastered troubleshooting

All unreal engine games seem to crash like crazy for me right now I’ll have to swap over to my cachyOS install and see how things go lol

ianhclark510,
@ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s bizarre, because all the other Unreal engine games I play (Satisfactory, Crab Champions) work fine

mic_check_one_two, do games w Oblivion Remastered troubleshooting

Try moving it out of your Program Files folder. Some programs don’t do well in those folders, because writing requires admin rights. It looks like the game is trying to do some sort of operation on a game file, and that operation is failing because it can’t actually access the file. Maybe move it to something like C:\Games instead, which won’t require admin rights to access. You probably shouldn’t be installing games to Program Files anyways.

I suppose the quick and dirty way to test would be to run the game as administrator. If that solves the issue, you know it’s likely something to do with Program Files being write-protected.

ianhclark510,
@ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yeah, it’s so quick and dirty that I already tried to run the game as admin and it didn’t work :P thanks

scrubbles, do games w Oblivion Remastered troubleshooting
!deleted6348 avatar

Upvoted, I hope someone can help you here. But also a bit of condescending, it’s been solid as a rock for me on linux :D But, seriously hope you figure it out, it’s frustrating having a new game not work

ianhclark510,
@ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

man, I hope someday Gamepass makes its way to Linux, fingers crossed!

Acamon,

It’s working on Linux? Was it straightforward to setup? I’ve given up buying games on steam because of their terrible Linux support, and I’d seen a lot of comments about the steam deck version sucking, so I’d assumed the Linux version wasn’t great. But maybe the deck hardware is the issue?

prole,

Use the Windows version with Proton, it almost always works better.

I’ve been playing Oblivion on Linux through Proton and have had zero issues. Like most games.

Your data on Linux gaming is woefully outdated.

I imagine the Deck hardware is barely up to snuff.

Acamon,

I’m not criticising Linux gaming - I know basically nothing about it. Just my own experience over the last year, where I’ve tried buying and playing a couple of games and had difficulty getting them working, tried different Proton versions etc. But maybe I should be trying the window versions? My question was just innocent curiosity, but looking at my downvoters I’ve obviously touched a nerve!

_cryptagion,

Was it straightforward? What kind of question is that? You click the install button in Steam to set it up. Then you click play when it’s done.

Acamon,

I’m not very experienced with Linux gaming, and the last game I tried (xcom) crashed consistently, and reading forums people were suggesting using certain Proton versions and other stuff. I eventually gave up. I also got uncharted:LOT refunded because I couldn’t get it working in Linux. So if it’s “click install and click play” the great! It is straightfoward.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Beyond selecting a proton version it was no more difficult to set up than any windows game. Deck hardware I’ve heard issues with, but I’m not surprised. The deck is essentially a mid level right from about 8 years ago. The remaster struggles on my 3090. I was finally able to get 60fps after tweaking graphical settings for a while, but none of that was because of Linux.

prole,

Same. No problems whatsoever.

I love gaming on Linux

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