What even is the point, though? The number of games made specifically for the PS5 can be counted on 1 hand and it’s not like those have significant performance issues that warrant even more powerful hardware.
Do any of these bigger numbers mean one would at least be able to play an existing game in 4k with ray tracing at higher than 30fps?
The current Slim PS5 also doesn’t have a disc drive, you can just buy it in a bundle and attach the optional one.
Honestly for manufacturing this makes way more sense, to ship one SKU and then make them all upgradable to disc. It’s also kind of nice that if you buy a digital one and want disc in the future you can just buy the drive.
Just looks crappy quality and uncomfortable. The Steam Deck is premium quality at a more affordable price, the point these 'competitors' seem to be missing while rushing for higher numbers on their spec sheets.
They made FSR vendor-agnostic for reasons that turned out to be irrelevant in the long run. It was just couple of years ago when games supported DLSS only and engines weren’t ready for plugging multiple different upscaling solutions. Nvidia and AMD tried to get exclusivity deals and things seemed fire for a moment. AMD hoped FSR would be enough for smaller players to adopt it but being vendor-agnostic handicapped them so much that everyone developed their own solution anyway (PSSR, XeSS). Not that it really matters that much because in the end modern AA gives similar results to old FSR and game devs will use what works best.
I use optiscaler to use dlss on amd it just converts it to fsr 3.1 or xess. I use the experimental release with frame generation to manage to play games that dont quite have a stable fps on my minipc as well as my steam deck.
When I first discovered DLSS/FSR, I thought it was a miracle. It allowed my antient PC to run Horizon : Zero Dawn reasonably well.
Then I tried it on the steamdeck, just to be shocked how horrible it looks. Turns out the magic ingredient was my myopia. I just couldn’t see the imperfections while sitting 2 meters away from the TV.
Steam Deck is also only an 800p screen, so using DLSS/FSR will render the game even lower than that. Basically the upscaling just works better at higher resolutions since it has more data to use. And like you said, definitely better for farther viewing distances too.
Consoles need to be more powerful because of the perceived importance that marketing has created for gamers desperate need for graphical fidelity over all else.
The gameplay of COD and FIFA doesn’t matter so long as it’s sharper/more crisp/more real. Granted, this mindset has somewhat faded, however it is still present and as a result corporations are still pushing it because while 60hz may be an old standard, Sony now has 120hz TV’s to sell you.
In addition to that, COD and FIFA don’t have to be nearly as well optimized if the consoles can just brute force through it. Also, without newer consoles that are more powerful, there then won’t be games that are too powerful to run on older consoles, meaning they won’t get to sell you new consoles because of the old games you want to play. Instead they can sell you the new games that only work on the new consoles.
I’m sure there are more reasons, but those seem to be the 3 core facets that make up the purpose of console gaming; sell the lie of the best graphical fidelity, make a game that requires a high powered console to play it, market it as “needing the best of the best” to be able to play it, and suddenly you have a brand loyal set of consumers who keep returning to the fishhook.
Console fidelity wars, from my understanding when I was growing up the improvements in graphics were appreciated but not the sole aspect of whether a game was good, like the way 2005-2025 (and somewhat into 2025 but significantly less so) did
You must be younger than me. I grew up in the 90s and the Sega/Nintendo rivalry was intense.
I think it was the SNES/Genesis era when “who has the better graphics” started to matter.
At the time, I was actually of the opinion that the N64 was a step down from the SNES. Sure the graphics were 3D, but they looked like shit even then. Nintendo really fucked up by sticking with cartridges that generation.
They don’t have asmany sales, but I’ve definitely scored some good prices on games here and there. They often run 20+% off on first party titles and non-first party gets deep discounts (I scored Rabbids for $4 a while back). I just wish they’d do the equivalent of PS Greatest Hits for like $20.
For some situations a console is nicer than a PC. Solid, consistent, single unit I can just connect to a TV and play. I’ve got a PC and I prefer it, but the average console is cheaper than my PC was and simpler for non-geek family members to boot up and play on a whim.
TVs have been available in 120Hz and VRR for a while now. Even my 2017 OLED supports 120Hz, albeit only at 1080p.
That said, I don’t see the need to chase that with more expensive hardware. Any game with a choice of performance vs resolution, I find myself swapping to performance mode. I can see extra frames, I struggle to see extra pixels.
There are a lot of 'fake' 120Hz+ TVs you have to watch out for though. The real ones are expensive.
The point being really, most people dont upgrade their TVs at all, for as long as the picture is good. Consoles have the hardware todo 120Hz right now.
Thats another good point, when you are sat so far away from the screen, the resolution becomes less important.
The battery life difference between the OLED Steam Deck versus the Asus and Lenovo competitors was a major factor in my decision to choose the Deck. As others have pointed out, it’s hard to imagine that MSI (of all companies) can deliver on battery life given these other specs, let alone other considerations like weight & size. Good for them if they manage to excel at all of these things, but I’m going to have to see it to believe it. And as of right now, I haven’t seen anything at all.
The only reason to choose MSI for PC parts is price so yes it would be very hard for them to compete. Their QA is non-existent and their Customer Support Ethereal.
Well Arc is still bad as far as I know so I don’t see this being as good as Steam Deck, Rog Ally or Legion. But I would really like to be proven wrong!
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