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nanoUFO, (edited ) do games w Steam’s latest hit is a generic F2P co-op third-person shooter – but not the one that launched last week
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nexon

that’s a hard pass, no doubt they will push micro transactions to never before heard of realms.

dudewitbow,

Reminder that whales in Korea had soo much power, they had a round table meeting to force Nexon of Korea to bend to their demands due to Nexon lieong about the “randomness” of line stat generation in maplestory, cauaing them to essentially refund 2 years worth in materials.

HidingCat,

Yea, I don't think the Chinese are as bad as them!

mojo,

They were actually the first ones to create gacha in video games in MapleStory

Grimy, do games w FTC denies responsibility for major Microsoft document leak

There will be outrage, they will go back on their cloud gaming decision but not on the disk drive. Orchestrated to screw over their users while making their fans think they are being listened to.

JokeDeity, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

Terrible article they misses so many factors that play into this.

ChiefSinner, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

People do play games offline. Personally, I don’t care about achievements. They mean nothing to me, except knowing that the game developer is tracking my play through, which I hate.

Cethin,

People play offline and they also mod games (especially Bethesda games and especially this one). In order to get achievements in Starfield you either need to play (mostly) vanilla or install an extra mod to re-enable them. This is a dumb article and should be downvoted. There are many reasons why the claim is likely wrong.

BallShapedMan, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

I already had mods that disabled achievements by then just to fix this mess.

Runs and looks great now, ~15 mods to get there.

CordanWraith,

What hardware are you running on? Pure vanilla and I’ve gotten a stable 100fps since release with everything on Ultra at 1440p.

V0lD, (edited )

Look at this guy with his dual 7900 XTX over here

I got a 7800x3d and 6950 xt. I played with performance boosting mods on medium settings

I kept dropping to 40fps on 1440p and ended up refunding

MaxVoltage, (edited )
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

1440p thats your problem

let me put these 28inch rims on my Toyota Carolla

absolute testament to the game that it runs smooth now on your pc at 1440

V0lD,

1440p isn’t that high. You’re thinking about 4k.

And, as I said. It’s not running smooth. It’s barely running at all. It keeps dropping as low as 40fps

CordanWraith,

Damn, our hardware is so similar. I’m running a (single) 7900 XT and a 7600X. I’m also running on an nvme ssd, but presumably with your hardware you are too.

I wasn’t trying to be an ass with my question about your specs, it’s just that my hardware isn’t particularly high end, so I was confused at why so many people are having performance issues.

V0lD,

Your hardware is quite high end actually. It’s not a 7900 xtx or 4090, but it’s close. (Yes, I have a 980 pro 2tb)

I wonder why you run it that much smoother than I do then

Kolanaki, (edited ) do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission
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Dude, I put like 60 hours into Skyrim my first time before I thought “hey… where’s my shout powers and all the dragons?” Because as soon as Hadvar said “we should split up to avoid suspicion” I unchecked the active quest, said “adios!” And vanished into the trees. I had to come back at like level 30 or something to do the entire MQ from Riverwood to the end.

That’s just how a lot of people play these. I don’t wanna follow their story; I wanna make my own.

Edit: Oh and this is all besides the fact that not only do mods disable achievements, so now do console commands in Starfield. I’ve had to no clip a few times to get unstuck while jumping around with low gravity and ending up places I shouldn’t be, so there are probably some achievements I didn’t get simply because that command likely disabled them (it just gives a generic warning that some commands will disable them, but not which ones).

JokeDeity, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

I don’t have this game yet but I know out of the box modding any of the Fallout or Elder Scrolls games disables achievements (but you can get around this with other mods), so I assume it’s the same here. Bethesda games being some of the most modded games of all time I wouldn’t be surprised if even a lot of first time players were using one or two mods and having their achievements disabled.

Anticorp, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

Starfield has been out for long enough now that anyone interested in playing it likely already has.

Not even close, especially not in the year that also brought us Baldur’s Gate and Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. How much free time does this writer think everyone has?

explodicle,

It’s a Bethesda game. In a year most of the bugs will be fixed by the Unofficial Starfield Special Edition Patch, and it’ll be on sale.

Cethin,

They were actually fairly accurate that it’s their least buggy title yet. That’s not to say there are none, but they are few and far between. The game just isn’t that fun for now. Animations take too long (currently already mods to fix most of them), traveling is boring, outposts suck, and just so much QoL changes are needed. Bug fixing isn’t really required from my experience. Plenty of other fixes are though.

Feathercrown,

As much as they do, probably

Aganim, (edited )

Yup, definitely interested in Starfield. But at the moment still enjoying Act I of BG3, Cyberpunk 2077 patch 2.0 and DLC are right around the corner and after I’ve finished those Cityies: Skylines 2 will be available. So I’ll probably have time for Starfield somewhere early 2024, depending on if my recurring Satisfactory itch hits before that. But by that time more official and unofficial bugfixes and QoL mods will be available, so I’m fine with waiting a bit longer to play. This year is just filled with too many goodies. 😁

Cethin,

I’ve played Starfield (did not purchase it on Steam…) and it’s alright. I haven’t finished it, and I won’t be for a while. It’s is missing so much QoL and so many thing will need the mod toolkit for modders to fix, which isn’t available yet. It should not be purchased by anyone at the moment. You’ll have a better time in several months, and it’ll quite possibly be cheaper.

There’s so much else to play. I’m wanting to get around to Armored Core 6 sometime, but Payday 3 is coming out, and Cities Skylines 2 and Counter Strike 2 (both CS2, and cities dropped it’s ‘:’ to add to the confusion) are coming soon. I may hop back into Cyberpunk if I get around to it, but it’s on the lower end of the list. There’s literally no reason for anyone to bother purchasing Starfield for a bit.

TheDarkKnight,

Yeah this one is most definitely back burnered cause it didn’t launch with DLSS and Bethesda always has a million bugs. I’ll wait for the mods to fix everything and play the polished games first.

ZOSTED,

I haven’t even got around to Sea of Stars, for pity’s sake

hitmyspot,

Why buy then? Wait for a sale and buy then.

Lord_Logjam, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

I would have liked to have finished the first mission but the game crashes after roughly 5 minutes every time I try to play. Sort it out Bethesda.

doleo, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

For what it’s worth, I am one of these people. I’d already watched a couple of streamers play random sidequests, but when I saw the early game I just couldn’t stomach playing any further.

Quentinp, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission
@Quentinp@lemmy.ca avatar

If I use a sample size of me and use my library of a measurement, it’s probably more than 25% of games I haven’t even launched let alone completing the first mission.

jaycifer,

Sure, same here, but how many of those did you pay $70 for less than two weeks after it released?

Quentinp,
@Quentinp@lemmy.ca avatar

Possibly a few (though to not finish the first quest would be unusual).

muddybulldog,

Undoubtedly a significant number of these non-achievers are Gamepass subscribers.

EveningNewbs,

People who have never launched the game aren’t counted in these statistics.

RadButNotAChad, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

I really wanted to but my game kept crashing like right after the part where you create a character. Maybe that has something to do with it.

MuhammadJesusGaySex, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

My first game had achievements deactivated from the beginning. I had to ditch that game. Then download a mod to activate achievements, and start over.

MurrayL, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

Achievement % stats are so comically skewed by various factors that they mean basically nothing. There’s an achievement in Minecraft for literally just opening your inventory for the first time but only 60% of Xbox players have it.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

There’s an achievement in Minecraft for literally just opening your inventory for the first time but only 60% of Xbox players have it.

12,7% of Amid Evil players are in-game forever:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/07bc0ef6-1815-48b9-9bac-3c880cae6034.png

Wogi,

That achievement is likely to gather more accurate statistics due to the problems you mention. The Amid Evil devs can now confidently say that 12.7% of players who own the game have never started it. Meaning they can subtract that number from other achievement percentages to get a better idea of how many people are progressing certain ways.

The same is likely true for Minecraft’s inventory achievement, though that’s slightly less useful, as some players may make it a little further without opening the inventory and then stop forever.

Leaving the first planet in Stafield takes a little more effort, but not much. It’s safe to say that some of the 25% of players who haven’t done it haven’t ever opened the game. But that number will probably be close to 10%.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

I think the percentages are calculated from players that actually launched the game, not from people who own it.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Steam does not count games that have never been launched. For 12.7% of the players the game probably quit under a bit different circumstances: game crashed or they lost internet connectivity.

Cethin,

Or they killed the application, or potentially alt-f4d depending on how well the game handles that.

glimse, do games w A quarter of Starfield players couldn’t even be bothered to finish the first mission

Has this writer never used Steam or is he just unaware how many people buy games they don’t actually play

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Has this writer never used Steam or is he just unaware how many people buy games they don’t actually play

Firstly: If you had ever used Steam, you’d know that Steam differentiates between “have game in the library” and “have previously played a game”. A bought game that was never launched, doesn’t show up in these stats.

Secondly: It’s clear you did not bother to read the article. “The numbers take into account players on Xbox, as well as those playing the Game Pass/Windows Store version of the game on PC.” The 25% number isn’t even from Steam.

Thranduil,

I have used steam for 12 years and I never knew that.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

In the Steam client, you have this box on the right:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a28d0cc8-b393-4ace-bf86-eee96ba92693.png

And when you click on View All, you get something like this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/600d869e-6dfe-4858-8abd-a968cca4c648.png

Thranduil,

Dont think I ever read those then again I mainly just play games and collect a million unplayed ones

Sethayy,

gamepads makes it a lot easier to start then get bored too

Cethin, (edited )

Oh, the irony. Steam achievements only count for players who have started the game.

glimse,

Download game

Launch it

“Great it works I’ll play it tomorrow”

Never open it again

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