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Evotech, do gaming w Nexus Mods says folks "should be pressuring" paid mod platforms to "do better" if they're frustrated by its new policy on the ever-controversial topic

Paid mods is ok as long as 100% goes to the modder

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

You also need to verify that the modder isn’t stealing another modder’s work, which can be challenging.

Evotech,

Sure, but solvable

acosmichippo, do gaming w Nexus Mods says folks "should be pressuring" paid mod platforms to "do better" if they're frustrated by its new policy on the ever-controversial topic
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

If anyone else just wanted this article to get to the fucking point already, here is the original nexus post:

…nexusmods.com/…/13501488-publisher-approved-paid…

MissGutsy,

This is actually amazing, I don’t understand what the other comments on this Lemmy post are about/if they even read this post on Nexus.

To summarize:

  • no incomplete free versions of paid mods
  • no patches for paid mods on a site for free mods
  • no modpacks that require paid mods
  • only limited advertising of paid mods

This is extremely levelheaded. I think other’s might just read this headline and think they are introducing paid mods, but they don’t!

Zoot, do gaming w Nexus Mods says folks "should be pressuring" paid mod platforms to "do better" if they're frustrated by its new policy on the ever-controversial topic
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

I miss the days of never even thinking of paying for a mod, when making a mod was simply for fun so you could share with others.

Sad sad world we live in now a days where even being asked to mod for free is seen as wrong, because any time not spent on a paying job means you very well could be going hungry.

P1nkman,

Capitalism, yey!

I_Clean_Here, do games w Helldivers 2's big update, Patch 1.001.100, is finally here, bringing a bunch of highly requested buffs and changes

It’s so boring to keep playing because they took out the dynamic galactic war part of the first game. There is no goal, just endless grinding.

Nothing happens, just some stupid text messages and pseudo strategic target bullshit to unlock something. Fucking boring.

surge_1, do games w Helldivers 2's big update, Patch 1.001.100, is finally here, bringing a bunch of highly requested buffs and changes

Did they ever fix cross-platform invites?

sparky,
@sparky@lemmy.federate.cc avatar

Yeah, those started working again with the previous patch.

RayJW, do games w Helldivers 2's big update, Patch 1.001.100, is finally here, bringing a bunch of highly requested buffs and changes

!helldivers2 just dropping this here to help growing smaller communities :)

Decoy321,

Joined! Let’s manage democracy together, brother!

PunchingWood, do games w Helldivers 2's big update, Patch 1.001.100, is finally here, bringing a bunch of highly requested buffs and changes

Possibly worth checking back in, but frankly I think I’ll still rather wait until they drop new content like the Illuminate.

Also wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch of new issues will pop up now, as is tradition with Helldivers game updates.

KillerTofu,

The player base are the beta testers!

PunchingWood, (edited )

Sadly too true. Just tried a quick round, ended up getting stuck in the debrief screen where the ship is supposed to fly to the cruiser and had to Alt F4 out of the game. These kind of issues get quite tiresome.

Tried some more and sadly had a bunch of people crashed in my lobby a couple of times, and I crashed one game too. Later I started the game and I got logged out “due to inactivity” while on my ship for barely 30 seconds checking out a few items lmao

It’s so annoying how bigs repeatedly happen, including stuff that’s been fixed before, after every game update.

KillerTofu,

Thanks for confirming that it’s still not worth trying to jump back in.

Decoy321,

My dude, the patch just came out. It’s likely just a surge of traffic.

PunchingWood,

I don’t think it’s a traffic surge issue. The disconnects, crashes and getting stuck in some screens have been issues since launch. Some of them got fixed, but they seem to keep returning every update. Especially the crashes often seem related to specific weapons or actions. Like previously it was the Arc weapons that had high risk of crashes, at some point even throwing snowballs was advised against because it would often introduce crashes.

thirdwill,

Its worth going back. The buffs have made almost all the weapons / strategems suitable for harder difficulties. Its still buggy (a game I played post patch had a missions-blocking fault), but worthwhile to experiment with new loadouts.

Orbital napalm is fun 😁

PunchingWood,

Yeah I’ve been getting back in but the amount of crashes are a joke still. It’s like every operation there is at least one mission I’ll crash. Yesterday had the luck after almost 40 minutes in a level 10 bot mission where we finally made it to the extraction after running out of reinforcements and collecting many samples it crashed right when the ship was called in.

Also the missions feel wildly inconsistent, some are difficult on level 10, but most are way too easy now. I feel like a lot of the challenge of high difficulty missions have been taken away by the weapon buffs.

Telorand, do gaming w Mobile classic Flappy Bird comes back, immediately ruined by fact it is seemingly just a vehicle for blockchain nonsense with the original creator not involved

I never could understand the appeal of that game.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

i understand the appeal as a minigame, like it’s literally a minigame in Deep Rock Galactic, but the fact that people genuinely play it as its own game is… bro just play minesweeper

Telorand,

Way more fun, too.

mtlvmpr,

Btw if you actually enjoy Minesweeper, try Globesweeper.

henfredemars, do gaming w Mobile classic Flappy Bird comes back, immediately ruined by fact it is seemingly just a vehicle for blockchain nonsense with the original creator not involved

No, it’s not coming back like the title indicates. This is by zero of the original people and none of the original code. It’s a clone, of which there are many better ones, as the article content explains.

This is a scam abusing a legal loophole (sniping the trademark) to sound official.

chloyster,

I think the title does a fine job explaining it isn’t to be trusted 🤷‍♀️.

But yeah for real it’s not legit. These people poached the trademark and are trying to cash in

Xatolos, do games w Riot's fighting game 2XKO will use Vanguard anti-cheat
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar
Eyck_of_denesle,

If this happens will the new anti cheat work on linux?

CaptainBasculin,

It never did work on Linux; and it won’t unless the drivers are rewritten for Linux.

Rayspekt, do games w Riot's fighting game 2XKO will use Vanguard anti-cheat

Okay imma head out. Better stick to Street Fighter and Guilty Gear then.

warmaster, do games w Riot's fighting game 2XKO will use Vanguard anti-cheat

Well, there goes my interest.

MentalEdge, do games w Riot's fighting game 2XKO will use Vanguard anti-cheat
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s going to require a crowdstrike type fuckup, exploit, or privacy scandal on a widely used AC like EAC before public opinion changes on this.

So many games are making the trade-off and it only makes sense because players don’t understand what they are giving in to.

Defaced,

The crowdstrike fuck up has already shown how something like vanguard can fuck your shit up easily. I’m glad league doesn’t run on Linux anymore, I don’t need this vanguard trash fucking up my PC.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yeah, but it didn’t affect gamers. People don’t care until something either does affect them, or in a VERY in your face kind of way, could.

Crowdstrike, unfortunately, is a funny “lol the corporates fucked their own shit up” case and the average gamer simply won’t connect the dots.

Defaced,

Yeah I mean that’s fair, but I’m taking every win I can get.

Xatolos,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

Microsoft is already looking at preventing this stuff because of Crowdstrike. While the whole event was completely CrowdStrikes fault, so many blamed (and still seem to blame) Microsoft for it, so they have a real reason to do this.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Good. Hopefully they actually get somewhere with that.

I’m just not seeing popular opinion among gamers wising up to the risks of kernel level access.

devilish666, do games w Riot's fighting game 2XKO will use Vanguard anti-cheat

Why not make secret lobby for cheater & transfer all cheater there without raising any suspicion from cheater so they can compete against among other cheater (and bots of course) instead banning them.

For cheat detector system why not analyze gameplay on the fly or easy access report button

cttttt,

Not that I’m defending Vanguard, but Riot’s choosing to invest in developer resources for Vanguard (and in finding cheat developers) so they don’t have to invest in server capacity or developer resources to support cheater only lobbies.

As long as their anticheat is effective, every cheater they can repel is some amount of server capacity that legitimate players can use.

Also, cheaters in the types of games Riot makes will cause some amount of opponents to simply leave the game in frustration. So part of this is just trying to keep players who are willing to install the game happy.

They’ve chosen to make free to play games, so this tradeoff actually makes sense for Riot. But again, kernel level hacks aren’t something everyone will or even should install.

It’s all about tradeoffs.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I may be preaching to the choir, but if the tradeoff you’re willing to make is to defend against cheats by installing a rootkit, that won’t even make cheating impossible as some kind of consolation, you should go back to the drawing board and try again.

cttttt,

Don’t get it twisted. We definitely agree.

This will effectively add any computer it’s installed on to a botnet and create another attack vector (via Vanguard).

The tradeoff I described, tho, is one on the Riot side. And as much as this form of anticheat is ridiculous, it makes sense given Riot’s business model. A bunch of cheaters can easily waste their money and engineering effort. They made the deliberate choice to narrow their market of potential players to those who are willing to install Vanguard and feel that Vanguard pushes most cheaters out of that narrow market. It makes sense.

Re: That tradeoff, tho, users aren’t involved. The tradeoff users have is between installing the game or not.

And again we both agree, installing this to an important computer or on your home network carries a tonne of risk.

GoodEye8,

In infosec it’s known that there is no impenetrable system. If someone wants the break in they will find a way to break in. Security is built around the idea of deterrence. Make it as annoying as possible so people thinking about breaking in would think it’s not worth the effort.

Same principle applies to cheating. Anyone really wanting to cheat will find a way to cheat. The purpose of anticheat isn’t to make cheating impossible, it’s to deter the low effort cheaters. If you had two identical games, but one doesn’t have anticheat then the game without the anticheat will have more cheaters.

In the same vein anticheat isn’t a magic bullet against cheating. There goes so much more into preventing cheating including specifically developing the game in a way that makes cheating harder.

ampersandrew, (edited )
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

In consumerism it’s known that there’s overreach, and I won’t buy their bullshit when a company has far too much control over my machine just because I want to play a video game.

Fighting games, as a genre, are already designed in such a way that reduces cheating. Every action you take makes you vulnerable, and cheats are usually built around automatic responses. Cheaters can often enough still lose just because the cheater wants to press buttons too and not let the computer do literally all of the work. Cheaters exist in games like Guilty Gear and Street Fighter, but they’re so rare and obvious that they become fodder for YouTube content.

devilish666,

Rootkits anticheat is horrible bro, bc someone can hijack your PC directly since they own highest control in your system
I’m not saying my idea is good, but if cheater compete against other cheater & bots in secret lobby they’ll grow tired on their own, finally they’ll realize they got bamboozled by the game itself
Finally for countermeasures if cheater itself wanna play back in normal lobby the game itself will reset their stat/items/rewards/achievement back like they create account for the first time or make cheater pay huge sum of money to devs for harsher punishment

echodot, do games w Riot's fighting game 2XKO will use Vanguard anti-cheat

Why can’t they just do anti-cheat the way it’s always being done, which is to identify cheaters and then stick them in a lobby with each other? I appreciate it means we might have to put up with some cheaters for 5 minutes, but realistically it’s hardly a high stakes situation.

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