sh.itjust.works

style99, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh
@style99@kbin.social avatar

You can read this book online, by the way.

razrabotka, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh

Btw I have taken this picture straight from a bookstore

Cosmocrat,

Madlad

AceFuzzLord, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh

Imagine being so brainwashed you actually believe modern copyright laws allows for free speech. Does this person constantly live with their heads in the clouds or are they just naturally braindead?

FaceDeer, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

Well, it's not wrong to say that about the basic concept of copyright. The original purpose of copyright was to allow authors to feel free to publish stuff more widely without fear of it being "stolen." Without copyright there'd be a lot more proprietary information being squirrelled away in private archives.

But of course, that concept has been completely hijacked over the years. The duration no longer makes sense for that original purpose.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Yeah. Copyright should exist for like, 20 years or so? Or no more than 10 years after the holder's death so dependent family can adapt. This 90-100 years is bullshit. It doesn't benefit the creators, it benefits the rights holders. Almost always a corporation profiting off the back of their workers.

piratetarip,

Agreed. The fundamental concept doesn’t seem bad. Usually it is harder to create than copy. So for someone to invest resources into creating something, we might want a system that allows him to recoup those costs before someone else who didn’t need to front load those costs undercuts him.

But as you said the current system is broken.

salarua,
@salarua@sopuli.xyz avatar

believe it or not, that wasn’t the original purpose of copyright. copyright was invented as a form of censorship. in 1556, the Charter of the Stationers’ Company was given the exclusive right to control the operation of printing presses in England, up to and including the ability to seize offending books and burn the printing presses that made them (L. Ray Patterson, )

chemicalprophet, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh

I don’t believe in physical property and i don’t believe in intellectual property. Fucking propertarians…🏴🏴🏴

TheHalc, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh

Ah yes, a statement on copyright thanking someone for buying an authorised edition of Great Expectations, a book whose copyright expired in 1940 at the latest…

JoeCoT,
@JoeCoT@kbin.social avatar

Right, the copyright is specifically for random essays added to the book, so that they could release it and say it wasn't entirely public domain, so you shouldn't copy it. A weird place to say "copyright fuels creativity" when it's clearly not the reason for the copyright here.

ICastFist, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Copyright fuels a weird form of creativity, the “Original Character do not steal” that is a blatant copy of another character. It also happens in music all the time, “Original lyrics, sound and composition, do not copy”

As for promoting free speech, yeah, no, it doesn’t. Everyone can point to a dozen videos being taken down by bogus copyright reasons, whether because it played 10 seconds of a specific music, or because the author of a piece of art disliked the video. That’s not even mentioning how you can’t (couldn’t?) use the “happy birthday” song in USA without being copyright struck.

Micromot,

In germany it explicitly includes that you can use as much stuff of some else if you add something or make a parody, just copying is obviously forbidden

TheFogan,

In the US the law does that. Even reaction videos that basically show the original are generally OK. The problem is that generally places for the general public to post things, don’t want to spend the legal costs of checking every claim. So they do a guilty until proven innocent approach where if someone has a registered business if they accuse someone it gets yanked immidiately, and then it’s up to the users to prove it’s not infringement.

Kalkaline, do piracy w "Copyright fuels creativity [...] promotes free speech", heh
@Kalkaline@lemmy.one avatar

I expected more from a company like Penguin Books.

Lummy, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

I was on Lemmy World too, but lately they’ve started to restrict more and more. Restricting access to piracy was my limit

goddamnpipes, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?

I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.

Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.

db0, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.

I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.

Rabbit,

Don’t need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.

mexicancartel,

One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge “official” or “main” server

OtakuAltair,

At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo

Demigodrick,

Keep it up db0, a lot of us across the fediverse appreciate what you’ve built!

Gsus4,
@Gsus4@feddit.nl avatar

So beehaw was right whey they defederated from .world, there is shadiness there…

PS: this is one of the best communities in the fediverse, good job.

whats_a_refoogee,

Beehaw’s reasons for defederation were completely unrelated to what’s happening now. They didn’t want the general public to have access to their “safe” community.

ShittyKopper,

there’s more to “the general public” besides 2 instances. beehaw defederated from .world and sijw because the mod tooling to handle a huge influx of people isn’t ready, and it still isn’t ready. (and the rest of their defederations are an off the shelf mastodon blocklist import which all instances should do imo and a few explicitly unmoderated instances. oh and porn i think)

beehaw federates just fine with the instance i’m on, for example.

if they wanted to defederate completely, lemmy does support allowlist federation, and i’m pretty sure their admins know about it.

ubergeek77, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community
@ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat avatar

And just like that I learned about a Steam Deck piracy community.

Something something Streisand Effect.

wahming,

TBF it doesn’t seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I’ve still moved on to another instance.

nsfw_only,

This 100%

I don’t know why people are making this dramatic, this was absolutely a functional and pragmatic decision.

Melody, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community
@Melody@lemmy.one avatar

This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.

Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.

Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.

If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.

jerkface,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

enshitification

You’re already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.

Coeus,

Too many people don’t know what it actually means.

x3i, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

Was there some context or discussion about that over there? If I recall correctly, lemmy.world is hosted in Germany, right? The lawyers there are quite extreme when it comes to cracking down on piracy; is a whole business model… So maybe .world is just overly cautious

Madbrad200,

Just released an announcement, see the pic in the post.

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

that announcement is also a buch of horsecrap

Blamemeta,

Fucking Germany. Like I get having the laws, but they are being abused for absolute nonsense.

narp,

I’m on a german instance (feddit.de) and it’s federated with db0.

I think it’s just lemmy.world bullshit.

Has anyone read their post about their downtime?

“We shouldn’t close registration or limit the amount of communities because we’re not even the biggest instance in the fediverse

Like, what?! The argument was always that they are the biggest in Lemmy! It felt like they were trying to gaslight the users.

Same as the other arguments, like new users being weirded out if they can’t register to lemmy.world or apps using them as default. So them being down all the time doesn’t matter? Or that lemmy.ml was the biggest instance and closed down registration and new users registered to other instances without a problem?

I’m really weirded out how hard they try to be the “main” thing on Lemmy.

Marxine,
@Marxine@lemmy.ml avatar

Almost like an “intentional and kinda aggressive lib takeover”. I wouldn’t put it past the admins to try monetizing their users at some point.

tron, do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world

quirzle,
@quirzle@kbin.social avatar

I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I'm reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

lemmyvore,

We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

Redjard,
@Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wanna say connect could do it for a while now. It’ll certainly come to many clients

Maajmaaj,
@Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca avatar

The snitch came from your instance btw. Keep an eye out for @Bungiefan_ak

I deleted my .world account

Demigodrick,

same account name (different instance) is also posting transphobia on lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nomoretroons

Maajmaaj,
@Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca avatar

Bruh what the actual fuck.

Demigodrick,

Its been deleted now, but that person has successfully trolled every lemmy.world user and is obviously full of hate and intolerance.

Maajmaaj,
@Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca avatar

The shit that really gets my goat, is that they had this patriotic spin to their comments about how it’s illegal. Like sure, whatever but you could just stfu and mind your business, y’know? Oh well, trolls gonna troll and get banned, lol.

riley0,
@riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

@Bungiefan_ak joined 8 hours ago.

MonsieurHedge,
@MonsieurHedge@kbin.social avatar

Bungiefan_ak appears to have literally two hobbies, and they're being anti-piracy and actively a fascist.

Funny how that works out.

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