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520, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

I mean, no shit.

These days we are expected to be subscribed to tons of shit, including stuff that simply doesn't justify subscriptions. We know it's not a benefit to us, but to the companies that dish them out.

BarrierWithAshes,
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Not to mention the sheer amount of amazing indie games coming out lately. Why even check out this gacha and subscription games?

520,

This too! So many genuinely good games at genuinely good prices. This is true even on Switch, where Nintendo is known to put AAA efforts into genres otherwise filled entirely with indie games (not to mention the Nintendo tax)

Essence_of_Meh,

Just wanted to mention that just like with any other F2P games, there are gacha titles that are fun without paying anything. Not as many as the predatory kind but still.

Speculater,
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I think the worst one I’ve seen recently was a note taking app on Android. Developer made a glorified PDF reader you could write on and wanted $10 to use the fucking app annually. I hope that dev ends up homeless and broken.

520,

Jesus fucking Christ, why not charge a subscription for notepad.exe while you're at it.

The worst I've personally seen was a subscription for an Android launcher. No actual cloud services attached and no way to pay outright. They wanted for a subscription for an app that launches other apps.

Rentlar, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

That’s a big part of it. Right now, Microsoft tries to put a number of big titles in their subscription service, a bunch of filler titles they can buy from publishers for cheap, and maybe a few that sold more popularly than they expected.

If subscription gaming becomes the majority, Microsoft and other streaming providers get to pick the contenders and not much else gets seen. Games like Lethal Company won’t have a sudden boom in popularity because it wasn’t on Microsoft’s radar.

ioslife, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

He’s right

inclementimmigrant, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

Good to see them calling these shitty AAA publishers and their terrible, anti-consumer ideas out.

DarkThoughts,

To be honest, I mainly bought the game to make a statement & show my support for what type of treatment & product I want as a customer. Nowadays everything just seems to want to milk me, games are quite often literally designed around it so that it becomes a core part of the games themselves. And I'm so damn over all of this bullshit.

Sanctus,
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A lot of us just want to have some fun after work and it is not fun when you feel served up like a buttered hot meal. I don’t want to feel like my games are consuming me.

huginn,

Between my partner and I we’ve spent 850 hours playing BG3 since October.

That’s more than basically any other “live service” or subscription based game I’ve ever played, especially for the time period.

Phenomenal game that made the team fabulous amounts of money and won awards while all the consumers left happy.

Definitely raises the bar for AAA

Katana314,

I can see how Game Pass popularity could be bad for a number of studios, as he says in the article. But, I’ve never understood how Game Pass’s existence was anti-consumer.

We always get these baffling quotes like “Microsoft insists on renting you your games, and you will like it.” or “I’m not going to be forced to pay $17 a month just to play my games”. GP never gained popularity off Microsoft forcing people into it, people voluntarily signed up, even when MS continues to make their games available for direct purchase.

The previous quote from Ubisoft even seemed more like an investor excuse than a threat to gamers.

SatouKazuma, do gaming w The Day Before still has one player logging in, a week before shutdown
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This reminds me of that one Halo game that kept going in the servers’ final days, only Halo was actually worth something.

HerbalGamer, do gaming w The Day Before still has one player logging in, a week before shutdown
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Can’t wait for their Retrospective video.

squiblet, (edited ) do gaming w The Day Before still has one player logging in, a week before shutdown
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I was watching a YouTube series recently about situations like this… online games that were pretty decent and still had servers but only 3-4 people a week signed on. Pretty entertaining.

Edit: looks like a few people do this. This is one I was thinking of: https://youtu.be/PGqyvq9l0Mo

astrsk,
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Remind us, which part of The Day Before was decent again?

Poopfeast420,
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The videos and articles about the game were pretty entertaining.

Zoomboingding,
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Dude I didn’t know Sips’ kid was on Lemmy

squiblet,
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Yeah, it’s different because this game is apparently horrible. I’m sure not all the games he reviews are good, either… just that they’re theoretically viable and exist but hardly anybody plays them.

Trudge, do gaming w The Day Before still has one player logging in, a week before shutdown
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A contrarian or a true believer?

InFerNo,

The sysadmin checking if anyone is still on

THE_ANON, (edited )

Yeah that’s what went through my head . Like someone who worked on it or something . Idk much about the game to judge though.

AgentGrimstone, do gaming w The Day Before still has one player logging in, a week before shutdown

Maybe I should log in too so I can get mentioned in the wiki as the last player. It will be my legacy.

evidences,

You could be like the Noble 14, last Halo 2 players, except I bet when they take the servers down for this game no one will stay connected.

XTornado,

Idk… It sounds like s shitty legacy, but not gonna lie it’s better than whatever legacy I leave myself.

Ductos, do gaming w The Day Before still has one player logging in, a week before shutdown
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AdamantiteAdventurer, do gaming w Activision Blizzard workers speak out after Bobby Kotick’s CEO exit
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He in all likelihood doesn’t regret anything he said or did, but just that he got caught.

futs, do gaming w Activision Blizzard workers speak out after Bobby Kotick’s CEO exit

I’m genuinely worried for Bungie and Destiny 2. It’s like “We get it, we let our players down. We are going to fix it by firing the current CEO and hiring Bobby Kotick…”

frauddogg,
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Do you really think they’d dig themselves out of the Sony-shaped hole they’re in by Final Shape even if left entirely to their own devices anymore? I lost anything I had for Bungie when they wanted to try and pin the reason for their layoffs on ‘the players not spending enough’ with the prices they already charge for base admission.

BluesF,

… we let our players shareholders down…

doctorzeromd,

That seems to just be a joke/rumor. There’s no evidence that he would actually be going to Bungie.

ampersandrew,
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I get the sense whatever he does next will not be in video games. Riccitiello, on the other hand...

Renacles,

Bungie can fuck everything up without Bobby’s help tbh.

wccrawford,

I’ve seen that they understand players are leaving in droves, but I’ve seen no indication that they know why. Every single thing they’ve said an done since the last DLC has been exactly the opposite of what makes the game fun for me. I went from spending way, way, way too much time each week to spending virtually none in a single season… And I haven’t even checked on the game since the second week of this season. It’s really sad.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Bobby going to Bungie is only an uncomfirmed rumor.

However, I will never forgive Bungie.

  • They did Marty and Joe dirty, Marty by trying to rescind his company shares and Joe for the way Jason Jones treated him in Destiny 1s developement
  • They absolutely ruined Destiny 1 and 2, though 2 far more than 1
  • They deleted content that I paid for without my permission, removing my ability to choose to access it (this is when I stopped playing Destiny altogether)
  • They’re tarnishing Marathon’s good name by making it a PvEvP extraction looter shooter
  • “We want you to throw money at the screen” famous quote (they really thought it was a good idea to say that)

If Bobby does become CEO there, I would not be surprised. But I actually dont think its possible for Bungie to get any lower.

Ottomateeverything, do gaming w Activision Blizzard workers speak out after Bobby Kotick’s CEO exit

TL;DR: Employees say his actions led to a lot of direction changing that forced management to scramble, and the lower workers had to bear the brunt of this. They also complained that OW2 needed more work or would be review bombed on Steam and his leadership refused. Shareholders are still happy to fellate him though because he made them a lot of money.

So, no actual news here.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

I mean it’s new to me

the_post_of_tom_joad, do gaming w Activision Blizzard workers speak out after Bobby Kotick’s CEO exit

Don’t read this trash ass article, it stealth-fluffs koticks dick like most media does to anyone with money.

Luck harder, article author! I see a spot you missed.

p03locke,
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It’s not PC Games. It’s PCGamesN! See, it has an N!

SatouKazuma,
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PCGamesN!? How many sites have they had to make such that they’ve started numbering them using factorials?

Brunbrun6766, do gaming w Activision Blizzard workers speak out after Bobby Kotick’s CEO exit
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Going to be really awkward when they meet Bubby Kotman, the new intern, on Tuesday

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