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Jaysyn, do games w SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer
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I guess this is a different SteamOS than the one that has been freely available for years?

Goronmon,

It’s available, but not really built or supported for standard desktop installation, at least as far as I know.

Quik,

I think what’s meant is there isn’t an official ISO to download as it’s not yet that polished for PCs

Jaysyn,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

There used to be though. I have it on a DVD. SteamOS is much older than the SteamDeck.

Goronmon,

The name is old, but there are distinct distributions. Debian vs Arch.

Railcar8095,

The current, unavailable for general download, is Steam OS 3. Valve just refuses to put a number 3 anywhere, do they just pretend the other two do not exist.

BTW, there are a few “almost steam os” out there. I can vouch for Bazzite, it’s fedora based and really good. Very welcoming for beginners, but had a lot of options of you want to dig a bit.

puttybrain,

I think you’re talking about the really old version from the steam machines. The OS the Steam Deck uses (version 3.0+) is completely rebuilt and uses a different OS as a base (now using Arch instead of Debian)

doggle,

If you mean the old Debian based one, yes. SteamOS 3+ is arch based and released with the steam deck. Valve said they’d release a version for desktops, but have yet to follow through.

JoYo, do games w SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

big picture works great on any linux distro, why would i want anything more?

Jerkface,

If the reduction in overhead, or any other optimizations it might offer, increases performance even more, I might go out of my way to set up a multi-boot.

p5f20w18k,
@p5f20w18k@lemmy.world avatar

Big picture mode runs like complete shit for me no matter what I do

Arthur_Leywin,

It works* on any Linux distro. Definitely not great.

doggle,

A gaming-focused, curated experience that just works™️

With a little know how you can get 99% of the way there with any arch based distro, but installing a new OS for non techies can be pretty intimidating. Having Valve’s assurance that it works with all common hardware would help more people take the plunge, I think.

lorty, do games w The best MMOs in 2023 - PCGamer
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There are so few mmos worth mentioning these days you could barely make a top 10

PieMePlenty, do games w The best MMOs in 2023 - PCGamer

Huh Palia looks interesting. Gotta keep it on the radar.

nekusoul, do games w SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer
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Seems like they won’t release it before it’s in a state where it’ll “just work” on about machine, which makes sense, since that’s the thing that helped the Steam Deck to success.

To that end it’ll probably be a while before they can get there, particularly for machines with NVIDIA GPUs, assuming stuff like multi-monitor VRR and bug-free Wayland support is on the list of requirements.

dustyData, do games w SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer

Listen, I would pay good money for an off the shelf console first computer that runs SteamOS, has as primary input a controller and an ARM architecture or any other small form factor x86, that fits under the TV. Freaking SteamMachines were a top notch idea, and Gabe should go for it again.

Dasnap,
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Wouldn’t ARM cause a lot of compatibility issues? I’d imagine we’d need to stick to small form factor x64 for now.

ggppjj,

I run windows on ARM, no issues using x86-64 apps.

gsfraley,

That gets wildly different with how taxing games are and how much they specifically take advantage of x86_64 instructions sets. Even decade old games would barely squeak by, if they don’t break entirely.

bitwolf,

It mostly works but you do get a small performance hit. Comparable to to the proton -> dx conversion.

That said, games tend to hit the GPU much more than the CPU

scrubbles,
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Check out ChimeraOS

BaroqueInMind,
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

Just buy a video game console at that point.

doppydrop,

I mean that is what he is asking for, but with the added benefit of doing whatever the hell we want with it too. Personally I’d be down for that too

BaroqueInMind,
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

Steam Machines were the solution, but no one fucking bought any of them so the market decided OPs desire was a waste of time and money.

TechAdmin,

The OS was also very limited with focus on Linux ports of games which there were not very many at the time. Proton wasn’t a thing yet. I bought two of them, one for myself and one for my brother. I tested it out & it was neat but wiped both to do clean installs of Windows 7 so could play the games we wanted.

Damage,

No proton and no vulkan, it was too early

snooggums,
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Sounds like you want a steam deck with a dock, or does that not fit under your TV?

That setup lets you connect controllers via bluetooth.

slackassassin,

I had a random 3rd party usb dongle with hdmi and a port for power laying around. Gave it a shot, and it worked great.

Pleasantly surprised. The only issue was that I had to use the deck specific buttons to do a few things.

Damage,

I did the same with the dongle that came with my Huawei laptop. There’s even an USB-C port that supports charging.

And with the steam controller, no button issues!

slackassassin,

Oh shit! I didn’t think of that, thanks! I have a steam controller that I might just have to dust off.

randomaside,
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I think it’s worth checking out some diy alternatives that get the job done. I built my own “steam box” with some cheap Ali Express parts (Elsa 5700xt and Erying motherboard with core I9 equivalent engineering sample) to great success. The OS is key. I’ve found two that work very well:

chimeraos.org (requires AMD GPU) github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/ (Works with Nvidia but it’s unstable using steam full screen at times)

I’ve had a great level of success with ChimeraOS so far.

I have thought about trying a minisforum with the built in 6600m but I haven’t given it a go yet.

TechAdmin,

Would love a new Steam Machine and could actually be good this time. Proton didn’t exist when they released the original Steam Machines which limited you to linux ports of games. I had bought two but wiped & did clean installs of Windows 7 so we could play all the games wanted to.

Before Proton, gaming on linux relied on native ports or WINE. Native ports were rare & not always better. WINE took some learning to make work well but I dunno, never got any good at it.

havokdj,

Even more rare was a port that was up to date with the windows branch if ever updated at all.

Man I tell you, the early 2000’s was actually a great time for Linux gaming, it only really went downhill around the early 2010’s

LUHG_HANI,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

I have a suspicion that they are making something. In an interview about the steam deck refresh one of the engineers mentioned how they couldn’t find an AMD apu that was efficient and powerful enough to warrant making a steam deck 2, he said not in this chassis anyway. Insinuating they know of one for a different chassis. Pinch of salt.

TryingToEscapeTarkov, do games w SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer

“Coming to other handhelds” “very tuned for steam deck” Why are these conflicting things in the same headline?

curiousaur,

It’s tuned to the architecture. AMD APUs.

Goronmon, (edited )

It’s tuned for a specific hardware platform right now. Choosing specific hardware platforms for support is just an extensions of that.

However the “PC” platform is basically an amalgamation of any possible hardware combination that currently exists, and is a whole different target for a project like this.

HipsterTenZero, do games w World of Warcraft's new Warbands system is going to force me to resub - PCGamer
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Is this article paid for by blizzard or something? The only progression that actually mattered were transmog pieces and mounts, both of which is already synced across your characters in the game. It doesnt matter if you can share netherwing reputation between your goblin and your human, and it certainly isnt grounds for resubbing.

Ashtear,

This update makes a big change in the transmog system: all drops found will now be added to an account’s collection, not just the ones equippable by the current character. A use case for the reputation and achievement changes is that they will save hours on obtaining the Legion druid forms (although they’ve said old reps aren’t coming right away).

We don’t have a lot of specific details yet, but a lot of it appears to be quality-of-life changes. There will be an account-wide reagent bank for professions; just that alone is a massive change. Unified flight paths is a QoL change that will also save people thousands of gold, designating “favorite” characters gets around realm swapping, etc.

I have multiple friends that are over the moon about this announcement. People love their alts.

ares35, do games w SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

makes sense. each handheld represents a single platform and hardware config to target. PCs vary wildly in both hardware and software.

Kit, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 dev shows off the level of optimization achieved for the Xbox Series S port, which bodes well for future PC updates

I’m running it on a fuckin Steam Deck without issue. The Deck can’t even run Apex without lagging like hell.

addie, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 dev shows off the level of optimization achieved for the Xbox Series S port, which bodes well for future PC updates
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Act 1 and at the first half of Act 2 ran pretty well for me, generally 80ish fps on max settings everywhere (6700xt @ 1440p). It’s after that when it started running like a three legged mare; frequent random slowdowns to about 15fps. I suspect that they got the game mostly finished and then started their optimization pass at the beginning, and just hadn’t got to the end of the game by the release date, which was moved forward last-minute to avoid Starfield.

The end of the game doesn’t look any more complicated than the beginning; suspect they just ran out of polishing time.

ratman150, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 dev shows off the level of optimization achieved for the Xbox Series S port, which bodes well for future PC updates

I’ve been playing bg3 in nearly max settings at 4k on a RX6700 and it’s been nearly flawless. I noticed a bunch of people commenting about higher end 30 series cards, does the game struggle on those?

The biggest issue I’ve found is the cpu usage. Especially in the city of BG I’ll see 8+ cpu cores really getting a workout.

Kaldo, do games w Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 reveals its first clan, the Brujah, four years after it revealed its first clan, the Brujah
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

I kinda get how it happened with all the reboots and delays but still, that's one banger of a title lol

fsxylo, do games w Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 reveals its first clan, the Brujah, four years after it revealed its first clan, the Brujah

Handing the game to Chinese room was a death sentence. Why play a vampire when you can walk around while a narrator talks about being a vampire?

Anticorp, do gaming w The layoffs continue: Ubisoft cuts 124 jobs worldwide, including nearly 100 in Canada

So 0.59% of their staff? That’s not really newsworthy, IMO.

BruceTwarzen,

Yeah fuck these people.

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