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seathru, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?

That is kind of just how non hall effect thumb sticks are. But I’ve had great luck with Deoxit D5. You have to take apart the controller so you can squirt it directly into the switch itself but as long as it’s not a mechanical problem like a weak spring, the Deoxit usually gets it working like new.

stealth_cookies,

Even some isopropyl alcohol works. My controller was drifting and I took it apart to blow it out and give it a good cleaning with alcohol. Works flawlessly now.

seathru,

Yeah alcohol works well. WD-40. too.

brisk,

WD-40 leaves residue, it is not suitable for cleaning

seathru,

It’s one of the messier options but it still works well. The switches in my logitech g604 have been bounce free for over a year now after hosing then down with WD-40. That’s longer than any of the warranty replacement mice lasted.

Deoxit leaves a residue, too, that will stain clothes. That residue is what helps the contacts from oxidizing again in the future.

Dariusmiles2123,

Was it an Xbox controller or a ps5 controller?

stealth_cookies,

Xbox. I can’t stand the controller stick layout of PS controllers.

dragontamer, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?

Controllers wear out with every click. Buttons and sticks, they all have a limited number of cycles. Like 100,000 cycles, but if you play a lot of video games, that adds up over the years.

Super Smash Bro Melee players regularly replace Gamecube controllers for this reason.

Maven, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?
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The solution to stick drift is buying controllers with Hall Effect joysticks; drift is caused by plastic parts literally grinding down and potentiometers wearing out. Hall Effect sticks don’t make contact, so they don’t have this issue. Since you like the Xbox layout, 8BitDo’s Ultimate controller could be a good third-party option for you.

morphballganon, (edited )

I replaced my Joycon stick with a hall effect stick. Now it just drifts in a different direction, and I can’t run full speed to the left anymore.

CORRECTION: I had to calibrate it. Now it works great!

Maven,
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DId you recalibrate it after the swap? That definitely shouldn’t happen.

morphballganon,

What do you mean by recalibrate?

Maven,
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I mean going to the Switch system settings > Controllers and Sensors > Calibrate Control Sticks

The controller was previously calibrated to its old stick. If you change the stick, you have to recalibrate it.

morphballganon,

I had no idea this was a thing, so thank you!

Norodix,

As far as I know its the graphite parts inside the potmeter that wears down.

Maven,
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That’s probably true, but I’m not an expert, which is why I just vaguely described it as them wearing out.

Plastic parts grinding down was a separate clause, and is mostly a problem for optical disk sticks; the N64, most notably.

nix,
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Do you know what port it uses to charge? It has a charging dock but i can’t find it it charges through USB C or what in the dock. I dont want to have to use the dock to charge it

Maven,
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It’s USB-C. You can see it in the photos. It can also use the cord to act as a wired controller.

Kanzar,

Dock charging is magnetic pins, but there’s a USB C port on the top too.

Gordon,

Do you know if the L2 and R2 use hall effect as well?

I play a lot of racing games, and I find that that L2 especially wears out prematurely on Xbox controllers.

Oddly I don’t have any problems with stick drift, just the L2 and R2 buttons become erratic.

Maven,
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I don’t know, but I suspect they’d’ve advertised it if that’s the case.

For what it’s worth though, I’ve been using an 8bitdo Pro (the predecessor to the Ultimate) daily since early 2020, including a lot of Splatoon (a game with a lot of holding and mashing of both triggers), and the triggers haven’t gotten the least bit soft or drifty, and (according to the Windows controller config screen, at least) still smoothly pull through the full analogue range. So they’re doing something good, anyway.

willya, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?
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Buy the part and replace it.

UndulyUnruly,
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What part would you have to replace on an Xbox One Elite controller, and where can you source such part(s). I googled before with no luck. Would appreciate any help. Thank you!!

willya,
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a.co/d/0afS9ti Looks like the regular, s, and elite 1 all use the same module.

UndulyUnruly,
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Thank you!!

Norodix, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?

It happens because from normal use the potentiometer inside the joystick wears out. Usually you can buy joystick assemblies for a 1/10 of the price of a controller, so if you can solder its very affordable to repair them.

If you dont want to solder, you can extend their life by applying a bit of contact spray to the potmeters inside after disassembling the controller. But that can corrode other components, so be careful with it. Still beats just throwing them out.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Many don’t require any soldering since they use ribbon cables.

Norodix,

I’ve seen those in disassembly videos of the steam deck and the switch maybe. But all the standalone controllers I personally have taken apart were soldered in place. eg. xbox360, dualshock4, some generic third-party ones.

brsrklf,

I can confirm in the case of switch joy-cons, sticks (and also rails, another weak part of those) can be replaced without any kind of soldering. It’s all ribbon cables.

ShadowRam,

Hall-Effect is supreme,

But we've been using potentiometers for controller joysticks for 25 years now... and yet it's only been a huge issue lately.

redcalcium,

How come nintendo switch (with replaceable controllers), has major stick drift issues, causing owners to buy several controllers over the life of the console, while nintendo switch lite (without replaceable controllers) seems to have more reliable sticks? Does nintendo manufactures the replaceable sticks with just enough tolerance to last barely outside the warranty period so their customers would buy more?

givesomefucks,

Why does the Geo Metro exist when everyone could just drive Ferraris?

If controllers arent replaceable, you’re going to make them more durable, which raises price.

It’s a trade off

redcalcium,

But Nintendo switch lite is the cheaper device here?

givesomefucks,

With non replaceable controller…

Like, there’s lots of different components. The cheaper overall may have better parts in a few specific areas, because if it breaks, the whole thing is broken.

Norodix,

What do you mean lately? I personally repaired a drifting xbox360 controller, and that console was released almost 20 years ago. I assume the controller was just a few years younger than that. I think eventually all potentiometers develop this issue.

astanix, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?

I deal with it by warranty replacement if the controller is still within warranty or buying a new one. I just have accepted the fact that controllers are replaceable items in my life.

dumpsterlid, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?

It’s pretty common for Xbox controllers to get stick drift especially if they are older. Controllers that use “Hall effect” sensors for the joysticks apparently don’t have this issue but I am not sure there are any affordable ones I can recommend. I am not sure how common it is for Xbox controllers to just have a stick straight up die, that sounds much more unusual and maybe like something that is more prone to happen with a third party controller?

I have never done it but you can replace just the joystick part on the controller and that may be a cheaper route.

Also, if you are playing on a computer, software such as steam will let you define custom dead zones to be just big enough to eliminate stick drift and no bigger which helps a ton.

I have bought multiple Xbox x/s (wtf is wrong with your naming scheme Microsoft seriously) controllers over the years used on eBay at the lower end of the price range ($25ish). I try to find listings that state the controllers have no stick drift. I guess one of the controllers I bought had a bit more stick drift than I wanted but I fiddled with the dead zone (in my case through steam settings) and the problem went away. For precision stuff I use an armor-x pro to give my Xbox controller gyroscope aiming anyways :P

This youtube channel is a great resource on all things controllers, the guy might come off as annoying at first but the info is extremely good. m.youtube.com/

intensely_human, do edc w QA tech for food packaging company.

Where’s Mango?

He’s on the loading dock checking the shipment.

But Carl already signed off on that.

I dunno. He said he wanted to go over everything again, with a fine-toothed comb.

anakin78z, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion
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Against the Storm. Picked it up way back in early access and kind of thought it sucked. Saw some people talk about it recently and decided to give it another go, and it doesn’t suck anymore! I suck at it, having lost every round, but I keep going back in, so I guess I like it now.

merde, do edc w Machinist EDC

did you mod the mini c.?

what are those scales?

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
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I got it already modded, titanium scales and brass liners, I’d have to do some digging to find the guy that does it

Vipsu, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion
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Maybe some Sacred Gold or Kirby: Forgotten land. Away from my gaming pc so old laptop and switch will have to do.

Steamymoomilk, do edc w Machinist EDC

Nice mini champ, im a big fan of the gerber dime when i dont carry my centerdrive (and yes im the one who asked if it was a leatherman crunch on C/machinist)

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
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Hahah I’m glad you’re here!

GluWu,

I found a Gerber dime in a couch I bought for $20 and now I carry it more than my diesel. Love the little thing.

XeroxCool, do edc w QA tech for food packaging company.

I think I have 15 of those flashlights now. Several reds for astronomy, several whites stashed around in cars and backpacks, a few uv, and a blue and green because why not. My EDC is an olight i1r on my keychain since it’s smaller, rechargeable, and only needed randomly, but those compact AA lights are so convenient either when packing for an exact activity or using in an emergency. I store them with rechargeable batteries but like that I can use a standard battery on the fly too, if needed.

For everyone else, they’re generic flashlights I find on ebay. The head is focusable (o-ring slider) from a 60+° circle with smooth output down to some very tight beam that projects the grid lines of the LED chip - and a hair above that focus you can project just the lead wire. Half-pressing the tail button switches between bright/medium/dim/strobe.

Mango,

Yeah we use them here to check for print errors. The high CRI is nice but unnecessary. What’s good is how smooth the diffusion is! Very good for checking ink adhesion in our films. I love how the LED shape is projected. 😁. I found out about the strobe by accident.

Mango, do edc w Sunday Carry #59

Kinda looks like an Ensso bolt.

rossabi, do gaming w Sometimes going back for a replay is a shock

Hey, what’s wrong with “How to ratatwang your Panda”? youtube.com/watch?v=_GZFNfibIYU

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