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LiamMayfair, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

I don’t know if TSE is a misspelling of The Elder Scrolls. In case it isn’t: The Elder Scrolls.

bi_tux,
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arena… no, I didn’t get through it, but Daggerfall isn’t bad

LiamMayfair, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

The OG Yakuza 1 and 2 may be dated but I enjoyed their Kiwami remakes.

Halosheep,

Came here to say this. Yakuza Kiwami was my introduction to the franchise and I liked it quite a bit

otp, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

The Fallout fans are missing out.

Final Fantasy fans are right to skip 2, but 1 can be fun. I’d much rather play 1 than 8.

Th3D3k0y,

Japanese 2 or outside Japan 2?

otp,

It’s just Final Fantasy 2 these days. I don’t think the North American numbering system is used much anymore.

S_H_K,

Heeeyyy 8 is the first one I played and loved.

StuffYouFear,

Not the first I played but I did love 8. See, there are atlest(and at most probably) two of us!

PilferJynx,

The draw system sucked hard but overall the game was great.

otp,

I have no nostalgia for 8. Meanwhile, I have heavy nostalgia for 7 and 9, so my hopes and expectations were set high for 8.

It didn’t resonate with me at all.

abysmalpoptart,

Ugh misread your comment and went on a fallout 2 rant. Woops. Totally agree with you! The early fallout games were excellent, and i think the only good one since the IP got picked up is new Vegas

mossy_,

Can I hear your fallout 2 rant anyway? I only played the modern ones, and nearly totally ignored the strategy involved in VATS in favor of just shooting enemies in the head myself.

abysmalpoptart,

Ha! Totally! Fallout 2 is an underrated gem of a game, the amount of content in a single city (new reno) is staggering. It’s funny, difficult, at times nonsensical, and arguably my favorite game in the series. Nothing about it is perfect, but it feels so right.

I don’t want to give too many details in case i spoil it, but the game is really something else. I don’t think any game in the series has been as unhinged since fallout 2. It is 2d isometric and uses an action point system, so be aware of that, but man is it wild. I think new vegas is the closest to really capturing the essence, but there’s a certain tone that is missing from the new games. I also strongly dislike the nonstop shoot on sight gameplay in later entries like they’re copying call of duty.

The first time i had an enemy offscreen one shot one of my party members with a Gauss rifle was a shock. An epic shock.

mossy_,

Sheesh. I wasn’t expecting to hear ‘unhinged’, but if you’re saying it’s like the “wild wasteland” modifier in New Vegas that makes sense. Would you say the fights are more difficult than the fps ones?

abysmalpoptart,

I was a much less experienced gamer at the time, so I recall them being significantly difficult, but fun.

Well, when I say unhinged I’m saying that the content was pretty wild, and the freedom you have to do some messed up stuff is fairly open.

dlhextall,

This person would probably like to have a word with you.

otp,

I maintain that FF8 is mostly only loved when people have nostalgia for it, or they love the card game, or they love breaking the battle system (generally by using the card game).

I was playing through the series, and 8 was my biggest disappointment.

SplashJackson, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

GTA 2 and Warcraft 2 were the best in their respected series

GoTeamBoobies,

WC2 was my first RTS

I had lan parties with GTA2, such good memories

gamermanh,

GTA 2… Best

Bold opinion, got a reason?

SupraMario,

Cause it was really the first of it’s kind and was on a console. GTA while was also console released was a lot different and not as polished.

This meme was made by someone who didn’t grow up during the time of top down games, WC/WC2, FO1/2 and GTAs all were insanely good for their time.

evranch,

GTA2 and 3 might as well have been different series for how different they were. Both were great but I’ve always wanted to see a top down successor to GTA2. The game was much goofier and the top down view let you kite a ridiculously large police force through the wildest chases imaginable.

GTA2 was just plain fun.

Kind of like how Metroid forked into its 2D and 3D incarnations, each with a separate story and timeline even (The Metroid Prime series splits off after Super Metroid, and Fusion / Dread diverge significantly)

With Prime 4 lost in the pipe somewhere, Dread was an honest surprise to see. Even more surprising was to see it was a 2D Fusion sequel over a decade later! And it felt like a real return to form for Metroid and was a blast to play.

This is how I feel a GTA2 sequel could be received, but they would need some way to identify it from the 3D titles that most people identify as GTA now.

Maybe even an HD remaster with some new content would be well received. I would love to play GTA2 again in HD.

flambonkscious,

Out of interest, did you play GTA 1?

evranch,

I never had a chance to, I was pretty young when 2 came out and had never even heard of the original game.

Kelly,

Kind of like how Metroid forked into its 2D and 3D incarnations

Most people use Zelda as their example for the phenomenon

evranch,

I would be surprised to see another mainline 2D Zelda though, Zelda has pretty much been 3D since OOT except for the DS games.

Metroid had gone the same way and that’s why Dread was such a surprise to see and I feel like top down GTA would be the same sort of thing.

I doubt we will see something like Dread from the Zelda series after BotW/TotK were such expansive open worlds, Zelda just seems to be getting bigger.

zod000,

Stop saying sad and probably true things! We need another 2D Zelda.

Olhonestjim,

Did you try Chinatown Wars? I thought it was pretty awesome.

evranch,

I thought it was just a mobile game and ignored it but it actually looks like a real game and pretty good, I should check it out! Too bad for some reason they overlooked a PC release, have to play it on DS emulator in low resolution I guess.

Hyrulian, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
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Skate fan here, why are we included? Skate 3 may be the one most of the community plays, but I think most skate fans agree one and especially two are good games in their own right. In my opinion skate 2 is just a more stylish version of skate 3 really.

TheRagingGeek,

I definitely preferred 2 to 3, 3’s Map didn’t resonate with me like 2’s map did

UPGRAYEDD, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

Should add the battlefield games as well… most people started at 3… though there are more than 2 games before BF3.

My fav is still 2142

FraidyBear,

Imo Bad Company is still the best that the Battlefield franchise has put out. But I didn’t play any before it so maybe it’s just nostalgia.

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Battlefield 2 was the first online game I really lost myself in. Good times. I still remember how aghast my friend was when I flew the attack heli through that one pipe in the dam map.

RIP_Cheems, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
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IF YOU DONT PLAY THE FIRST 2 YAKUZA GAMES, I WILL FIND YOU AND TSKE YOUR MONEY AND DOWNLOAD THEM ON YOUR COMPUTER.

HighElfMage, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

Warcraft 2 was actually a really great game. If Warcraft 3 and StarCraft never came out and utterly eclipsed it, it would have been an all timer. Warcraft 1 was also good, but inferior to 2 in basically every way and never got time to shine.

Witcher 1 was incredibly tough to play through, but Witcher 2 was great.

evranch,

WC1 was iconic at the time and we thought nothing could top it. Then WC2 absolutely blew our minds, and SC destroyed them as (I think) the first popular RTS with highly asymmetric but balanced factions.

Blizzard was absolutely on the top of their game then.

Of course nobody (including myself) realized that both games were just Warhammer / 40k in disguise, because those games were only for true nerds at the time. Only in the last few years as 40k has become mainstream did it become obvious where Blizzard got the lore and aesthetic to create such iconic games.

southernbrewer,

Yeah I really enjoyed WC2, it was epic and WC3 was a real disappointment to be honest. I still play WC2 every so often though

evranch,

Same I never played much WC3 we mostly stuck to StarCraft and AoE2 in that era. StarCraft for a quick weeknight game and AoE2 for prolonged LAN party wars

thesilverpig,

I heard (so feel free to go down the rabbit hole and try to varify it, cause I am struggling to find a definitive source) that Blizzard was actually trying to make a 40k game but the deal fell through so they went for legally distinct lore. And one of the reasons all the cerabrates were killed between brood war and wings of liberty was because games workshop didn’t feel they were legally distinct enough and blizzard didn’t want to get in a protracted legal battle over them.

HighElfMage,

I’ve heard that it was Warcraft that was supposed to be a Warhammer licensed game but I don’t believe it. I don’t know what the armies looked like at the time when Warcraft 1 was being designed, but the Humans certainly don’t look like anything in 5th Ed - TOW.

StarCraft is clearly inspired by WH40k, but it came out after they should have resolved any licensing issues with Warcraft.

evranch,

I looked into it this morning because I was curious and it’s all very blurred lines. However apparently Blizzard and GW do have an agreement about allowed content going forward so something happened between them.

It’s like… There’s only so many ways to draw a space marine but Terran marines are clearly Space Marines, right? And the Zerg and Tyranids are just too similar for it to be a coincidence.

Grass, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

Dunno about Yakuza but sounds fine for all but warcraft. World of ruined the franchise for me. I just wanted more of the same. Also I thought persona was part of megami tensei.

OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe,

Yeah, maybe the original 2 but Kiwami 1 and 2 (the remaster) and Yakuza 0 are probably my favorites.

bi_tux, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
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the first two fallout games are better than fo3 and faaaaar better than everything after nv

ericbomb, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

Then we have Age Of Empires, where we just stick to 2 mostly.

If you play 4, I hope it improves and devs don’t do more weird things!

If you are playing 3 DE, your tastes are beyond my understanding.

If you are playing 1, no you’re not! They remade AOE1 in AOE2 engine, just come play with us over here.

Mythology fans, we’re getting our remake soon!

dankm,

And Half Life… those developers can’t even count to 3.

Leate_Wonceslace, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
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I actually like Final Fantasy 2.

wazzupdog,

I liked FF1. It’s actually one of my favorite nes games.

BradleyUffner,

Are you using the US or the Japanese numbering? US 2 was pretty good. Japanese 2 was still super early and closer to 1, so not very complex. I found that one to be fairly dull.

Leate_Wonceslace,
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I don’t like FF4. There’s little to no agency and the story is lacking. I don’t understand why so many people like it.

BradleyUffner,

It falls into the style of RPG that is more like reading a book than having freedom to do whatever you want. Some people really like that story aspect.

Piemanding,

FF1 was actually the only one I almost finished.

zod000,

I did as well, reminds me of the early Saga games (Final Fantasy Legend series on Gameboy in the US).

Bombastion,

I have an irrational fondness for it. The stat leveling mechanic is real double-edged sword, though.

Unless we’re talking about 2/4 (with Cecil as the main character), in which case that one’s just an absolute banger, no notes.

wazzupdog, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

I feel like the odd one out, i prefer most of the early games, FF1, GTA2, Warcraft 1+2, Farcry 1+2

MeanEYE,
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You are not, it’s just fanboys who have perverse need for allegiance for no other reason than to geek out over something that are not touching anything before their time. To me Fallout is the first two games, and perhaps New Vegas even though engine is dogshit.

grahamja,

War craft 1 was great at the time, the 2d one is still a lot of fun.

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Astlibra Revision on impossible. X_x

After getting back to 100% achieves with Gaiden I decided to take the plunge and the early game is quite dreadful. Lol

But it does feel nice to actually need all of the many power growth avenues.

I’m in Chapter 5 at the moment and It takes 3 whole hits now to kill me finally!.. From the basic bat enemies anyway. Oof

Sylvartas, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

Well “far cry fans” are wrong. Far cry 2 is probably the last mildly risky game Ubisoft ever produced and was way ahead of its time in a lot of aspects.

szczuroarturo,

Yeach as far as climate goes it was great. The only unfortunate choice were the endlesly respawning guardpost (?) not sure about the name. But it was a massively ubfortunate point. It really made the game go from very good to throwing your controler in rage very fast.

Sylvartas,

True, the hardest difficulties were actually very fun, but the respawning checkpoints kinda ruined them

yesman,

Respectfully disagree. It’s the captured roadblocks that turn the late game of other far cry games boring. FC2 was constantly dangerous. Arriving at a mission start point was an adventure. You had the option to Leroy Jenkins into the roadblocks, beat a wide path around them, take the bus, or 30 other things in between.

That’s why the later games make unlocked bases into fast travel points, because once defeated, there is no point in revisiting anything.

Sylvartas,

You know what, when I played it I really hated these respawning roadblocks because I thought they were immersion breaking and “annoying”, but thinking about it, most of my better memories about random gunfights were around these roadblocks, so I agree with you, especially the late game thing.

GoodEye8,

Also far cry 1 was a completely different game and a decent shooter (for 2004). Definitely worth playing for the history.

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