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tonytins, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

This feels like a “you’re holding it wrong” moment.

deranger,

Big Xbox One release vibes.

“Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to stay connected; it’s called Xbox 360” - Don Mattrick, Microsoft’s President of Interactive Entertainment Business

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

Except that was about internet connectivity and this is about price. Telling people to go with the old console because they can’t due to a bullshit restriction is crazy, saying it about price is pretty fair. If you can’t afford a current gen console, then the last gen would be the best option. At $450USD it will still be the cheapest console on the market other than the Switch 1.

I’m honestly shocked people are so up in arms about the price. Doesn’t really seem like Nintendo is gouging here, a comparable phone or tablet with the same specs comes in around the same price or higher. It has pretty much every feature people were asking for at about a $100USD premium over the existing Switch.

Raising standard game prices, charging for the tutorial app, and charging for next gen upgrades, that I get the pushback on.

Ephera,

Well, traditionally, console prices were subsidized by the more expensive game prices. They’d sell the console at a loss to then make that back per game. Them raising both the console price as well as game prices is what makes it awful.

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

We lost that in the PS4 era, seems weird to mourn it now.

Ephera,

I mean, if it’s still shit and it’s getting even worse, I don’t know why we wouldn’t continue to mourn that, or at least call it out.

cmhe,

I would agree about getting buying the cheaper version, if it doesn’t also might mean buying an EOL product.

If Nintendo stops providing updates and new games of the old switch (soonish) then (what I suspect from console gaming) then suggesting to buy the old product from Nindendo looks like they just want to empty their Switch 1 stockpile.

If Nintendo just treats the Switch 1 and 2 as the same console, with just different performance and price, but get the same support period and games, then I am fully with you.

deranger,

They’re both about price in my opinion.

Personally I don’t feel the console itself is that bad, but $80 Nintendo games, that never go on sale, can fuck right off.

Takumidesh,

A base model steam deck is $50 cheaper than this, a base model Xbox series s is $150 dollars cheaper, and it’s the same price as a PS5 slim.

arudesalad, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

What’s annoying about this is that (at least for me) the switch 2’s price is not the problem (outside of the USA, good luck to American Nintendo fans, you’ll need it), I get that it is expensive for a Nintendo console (I probably couldn’t afford one) but it has hardware worth the price (from what I have seen, feel free to correct me). The problem are the overpriced games, £75 (physical)/£67 (digital) is too much even for a Nintendo game. Do Nintendo really think they can just get away with prices that inflated in a market where most families will go “but we already have Mario Kart! Why spend another £430!!”

Nikls94,

Not to sound like a fanboy, I mean I am but that’s not why, but I get the Mario Kart price tag.

I’ve had a switch from day 1 and look in the e-shop charts about once a week, and Mario Kart was consistently in the top 20 most sold games of the past 2 weeks.

From a switch perspective, you paid $70 for MarioKart + $25 for the DLC and got a single game a lot of people played since April 2017. In that same time you got 8 Call of Duty games for $70 each ($560) - with the later CoDs charging you $30 for chores or “Battle Passes”. Or you could have paid 95 Fortnite Battle Passes (total ~$950) since the launch of MarioKart.

I forgot the point I wanted to make.

FartMaster69,

Yeah, but somehow I doubt they’ll pass on an opportunity to double dip and release DLC.

Macaroni_ninja,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

if only MK, Fortnite and CoD would be the only three options for gamers then probably MK would win this round.

Unfortunately you comparing your favourite game to two vomit piles full of microtransaction and battle passes so cant see your point there.

If you enjoy the games Nintendo sells go for it, in my opinion the inflated new prices are ridiculous and will have a negative impact on the gaming industry in global as other big corpos will start copying them if Nintendo can get away with it.

chunkystyles,

MK 8 is also a previous generation title that Nintendo got to double dip on already.

MK night be a good value proposition for some folks. It’s still too expensive. I have games that I’ve paid $20, $10, sometimes even less for that I’ve gotten more play time out of. Play time to cost is not a good argument.

Let me also contrast with some of Nintendo’s worst practices, like selling 3 old Mario games with no enhancements, that are just emulated, for $60.

piyuv,

Also the greed. Charging for the virtual tour game (however cheap it may be), charging for performance updates to existing games (not extra content, only performance). Switch 1 games should just run better on the new console by default.

I’m not even sure hw is fairly priced. They’re able to sell the same thing in Japan for 100$ cheaper. I don’t think they’re losing money there.

Katana314, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Although we still number consoles, in a lot of ways we did get our “tiered” console structure.

Take most people’s daily plays, and I’d say about 90% of them or more have an edition available on the prior gen console. And it makes sense when so many of those games have relatively basic graphics - and when game engines have gotten better at scalability.

So, those consoles are neatly serving as a low budget option for a lot of gamers that can’t follow all the latest and most expensive games. Yes, some newer releases will be fully excluded; but even then, getting a brand new or used Switch or PS4 can introduce someone to a huge number of games if they haven’t been exploring options.

MellowYellow13, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

No thank you. Got rid of my Switch and got a Steam deck years ago. Much better.

ieatpwns, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

HUH?! Buy a mig switch?!

Nikls94, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Imho the price is justified. By raw numbers it’s a beefier steam deck for + $30.

Oh, and you get a dock that increases its power.

piyuv,

By raw numbers I have around 500 games on steam and there’s a huge sale every 3-4 months. Deck is also a pretty capable computer and runs Linux. Deck can run games from many platforms, not just steam.

polle, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

It would be nice when the switch 1 would grt cheaper though. Its ridiculous how expensive it still is.

Thcdenton, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming
@Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I can afford it. Still not buying it.

MECHAGODZILLA2, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Just got a tool set and replacement battery ordered for mine today, way ahead of them

arakhis_, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming
@arakhis_@feddit.org avatar

THEN LET ME FAKING PLAY MARIO KART WORLD WITH MY FRIENDS ON IT

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Just don’t buy Nintendo.

base, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Uh, okay. Whatever?

zaphodb2002, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Ubisoft is Developing a Turn-Based Tactics Game Set in The Rainbow 6 Universe

Isn’t the “Rainbow Six Universe” just, like, the regular world? I haven’t played an R6 game in more than a decade, but I remember the draw being realism.

leftytighty,

Fact: most fictional media takes place on earth. They clearly mean the lore will be shared.

ObtuseDoorFrame, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Ubisoft is Developing a Turn-Based Tactics Game Set in The Rainbow 6 Universe

I knew that the success of BG3 would have an impact on the industry, it was only a matter of time. This sounds fun.

brsrklf,

BG3? Not sure I am seeing the influence here.

If anything Firaxis’s take on XCOM has made turn based tactics somewhat mainstream again, and Ubisoft has already tried to surf on this trend once with Mario+Rabbids.

ObtuseDoorFrame,

I don’t think there’s been a turn based game that has sold as well as BG3 in a long time. They’re just chasing trends. Something like XCOM is a better comparison in terms of gameplay and style, but doesn’t have the sales that BG3 has.

ampersandrew, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Ubisoft is Developing a Turn-Based Tactics Game Set in The Rainbow 6 Universe
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t bemoan this just yet. Ubisoft’s name on the game is a red flag as always, but they made a pretty sick turn-based tactics game in the Ghost Recon universe on the 3DS, from designer Julian Gollup, formerly of original XCOM fame, now working on a game called Chip 'n Clawz vs. the Brainioids.

Besides, I don’t want a single player Rainbow Six. I want a Rainbow Six that’s either single player or co-op, with a proper planning phase. I’m about halfway there with the Door Kickers games.

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