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Computerchairgeneral, do games w Bloodborne Kart isn't allowed to be called Bloodborne Kart anymore, but it is still coming

Sony finally remembered that Bloodborne existed at the worst possible time. Still, at least the game isn't being outright canceled and judging from the Micolash redesign, it looks like the creator is making the best of it. I do wonder if there's a possibility the creator could sell the game now, since it's now a legally distinct gothic kart racing game and not a Bloodborne fan game.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

Definitely. This is the best possible outcome. And the game still keeps the hype so people will be paying attention.

magic_lobster_party, do games w Bloodborne Kart isn't allowed to be called Bloodborne Kart anymore, but it is still coming

This probably means one thing: Sony is making their own Bloodborne Kart!

Katana314, do games w Bloodborne Kart isn't allowed to be called Bloodborne Kart anymore, but it is still coming

I wonder if this means someone will release a mod that returns names to their trademark-breaching intentions.

HipsterTenZero, do games w Bloodborne Kart isn't allowed to be called Bloodborne Kart anymore, but it is still coming
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

NO!! It was so close to release!

blunderworld, do games w Dark and Darker dev says Nexon's "trade secret and copyright" lawsuit against it has been dismissed

Did they end up reversing the micro transaction decision from a while back? I liked what I played, but I’m still not willing to pay money for any class that was included in the beta for free.

KickyMcAssington,

the locked class’ were unlocked for everyone after about 1 week due to backlash, they did listen at least. Different races are now for sale through points earned in game or real money. They are a cosmetic change with some minor stat differences (both good and bad so pretty balanced)

blunderworld,

Not so bad! Maybe I’ll have to check it out again, thanks for the info

vasus, do games w Dark and Darker dev says Nexon's "trade secret and copyright" lawsuit against it has been dismissed

The title feels misleading, this isn’t the actual main lawsuit, the case is far from over. I doubt Steam will want to display the game again given that they are still in hot water legally

Kira has been covering the situation from the start and he has a great video talking about this development

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Didn’t want to watch the video so used kagi’s ai summarizer:

  • Onepeg, a gaming YouTuber, tagged KieranTV in a tweet claiming that Nexon’s case against IM had been dismissed in both US and Korean courts, which was factually untrue.
  • When KieranTV questioned this, Onepeg doubled down and accused KieranTV of historically taking Nexon’s side without cause.
  • Reports from Korean media indicate that while the preliminary injunctions from both sides were dismissed, the judge noted it was likely Dark and Darker illegally stole from Nexon’s P3 game.
  • The case has not been fully dismissed and will continue to a full trial on the merits to determine the truth of Nexon’s claims.
  • Onepeg apologized for misrepresenting the facts but KieranTV remains skeptical of his motivations given his repeated doubling down.
  • KieranTV’s consistent position has been to want the truth determined fairly in court, not to take either side without cause.
  • Coverage of legal cases can be complicated as the truth may not come out clearly even if the right party wins or loses.
  • Fans of the game have previously harassed KieranTV for his neutral reporting on the case.
  • Onepeg should have fact checked before tagging KieranTV and making claims about the case’s outcome.
  • Both sides will continue arguing their cases as the full trial moves forward.
Katana314, do games w Dark and Darker dev says Nexon's "trade secret and copyright" lawsuit against it has been dismissed

It honestly feels like a very strange world where Palworld isn’t investigated by Pokemon for infringement, but DnD is investigated by Nexon. Granted, I don’t think either claim has validity.

chaorace,
@chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s a pretty different situation under closer examination. The DnD developers are ex-Nexon employees and they (allegedly) pitched the idea internally before deciding to leave and take the idea with them.

Nexon thought that they had a legal leg to stand on because of how IP laws work (i.e.: employee ideas on company time are company IP). Perhaps more importantly; they probably felt a need to retaliate in order to send a message to other employees who might want to try something similar.

Palworld, on the other hand, is made by a team with no ties whatsoever to GameFreak. If Pokemon were a younger franchise they might possibly have a patent case of some kind, but even the 3D games go back almost 24 years now.

Halosheep,

It’s my understanding that they were in fact working on a very similar game at Nexon that was canceled and will never be released. There’s even leaked footage of the game out there.

drislands,

But Palworld is being investigated.

Katana314,

The announcement they made seemed more like a statement of awareness than any foreboding of litigation. They already filed a takedown more specifically for the mod that changes to Pokemon models.

CalicoJack,

And knowing how hawkish their lawyers are, they’ve probably had their eyes on Palworld since it was announced anyway. If there was anything actionable, they would have jumped on it already.

Draedron,

Palworld has no former employees of gamefreak and is a completely different game than Pokemon and a completely different genre. Some of the monsters look kind of similiar to pokemon but they arent copies.

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, all Palworld has to do is change a few models and they’d be out of the hot water. I do have to say though the few models that are noteworthy are HIGHLY problematic to a point of “X pokemon but color swapped”

PrettyLights,

And Pokémon did it to Dragon Quest.

There was an image of a Pokémon mesh or framework being very similar to a Pal’s, but the author didn’t mention they manipulated the size and perspective to make them look closer but other users noticed.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/56e8e55a-0777-4fbe-911b-31656d8864ca.png

PrettyLights,

The DnD claim has a lot of validity, as a fan of DnD. Have you looked into it much?

The DnD devs are accused of working on Nexons game, stealing source code, leaving nexon, and buying the same assets Nexon used to rapidly build DnD from p3’s ashes. The main leader who quit nexon directly poached from the p3 team to build the clone game as well.

I’m no Korean law expert, but there’s something worth looking into there.

Palworld just has a similar art style, and the idea of catching monsters in balls. There’s a lot more mechanics to palworld than Pokémon has, whereas DnD was actually P3 but made by a new team.

Phegan,

The palworld devs never worked on Pokemon. The dark and darker devs were, allegedly, employees of Nexon working on a similar game. It’s completely different

alphapuggle, do games w Bloodborne Kart isn't allowed to be called Bloodborne Kart anymore, but it is still coming

Before reading the post I was ready to fight that “Kart” does not relate it close enough to Mario kart to warrant a trademark infringement.

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/b4d59690-a2f2-46b6-b4ca-e3352f64ccf7.jpeg

hollo,

I admit it did not occur to me that “Bloodborne” could be the contentious part of the title.

nyahlathotep, do gaming w Microsoft quarterly gaming revenue up 49% following Activision purchase
@nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works avatar

What was that? Couldn’t hear you over the layoffs

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

They said their profits (not just revenue) were up by more than the cost of those 1900 employees they just laid off.

Carighan, (edited )
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I mean at least they’re also removing managers at Blizzard and Activision with the layoffs. That it hits workers, too - sadly utterly expected 😑 - but at least MS isn’t above letting useless and redundant managers go.

(edit) Ugh, sorry. I should have added an explicit /s, it’s not as obvious as I thought it’d be. 😔

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

…are you fucking trolling?

loobkoob,

I'm not cheering for the layoffs, of course, nor am I necessarily in favour of monopolies and the consolidation of the gaming industry (although, in this instance, I think it's probably a positive thing for fans of Blizzard IPs). But layoffs during this kind of merger/buyout are expected. Microsoft has its own legal departments, payroll departments, marketing departments, etc, and while they might need expanding slightly as the company grows/absorbs new companies, they don't need an entire second company's worth of those departments.

These layoffs were about cutting redundancy rather than just chasing short-term profits. It sucks for the people who were laid off either way, but I think it's good to be realistic about why they happened.

Gamoc,

So you’re saying that if Microsoft hadn’t hoovered up another company due to being creatively bankrupt, almost two thousand people would still have a job?

peter,
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

They also laid off part of Microsoft though

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

What you say is true but if you followed the reports you’ll know they fired the whole of the blizzard survival team, a good chunk of the Overwatch team and writers/story people from WoW. Very much not only the redundancies.

ulkesh, (edited ) do gaming w Microsoft quarterly gaming revenue up 49% following Activision purchase
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

An increase of only 49%. Time to fire a couple thousand more people.

Carighan, do gaming w Microsoft quarterly gaming revenue up 49% following Activision purchase
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

That’s news? If I spend that many billions of more people to fire, I damn well expect that my monthly revenue goes up. They’ve got to have some dedicated whales paying for lootboxes, after all.

SatouKazuma, do gaming w Microsoft quarterly gaming revenue up 49% following Activision purchase
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

This merger was a fucking mistake.

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

You’ve just summed up the last 40 years of antitrust.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I know. This is just another anvil on the (incredibly) dead camel’s back.

Eggyhead, do gaming w Microsoft quarterly gaming revenue up 49% following Activision purchase
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

Good thing they laid off all those people, too. /s

ArghZombies, do gaming w The history of game hints pages, before the internet took over

I remember waiting a month at a time hoping to see a hint for whatever game I was stuck on, only for it not to be featured - or perhaps even worse; to see a hint for that very game but one I’d already figured out myself! Urgh! Gaming in the 80s / 90s was a challenging affair!

This article also skips over the other option we had back then - premium rate phone numbers that…slowly… read …out …some …barely …relevant …facts …about …the … game …at …£1 …a …minute …with …maybe …the …hint …you …wanted …after …costing …your …parents …a …£12 …phonebill.

sylver_dragon, do gaming w The history of game hints pages, before the internet took over

I remember the hint books for Sierra’s games (e.g. King’s Quest). Each hint would be a question or sentence with multiple boxes underneath. The boxes were blank and you used a special highlighter pen to reveal the content of the box, with each subsequent box being more and more specific. It was an interesting way to get hints.

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