Lol when you agree with a ban that turkey made thats a strange day. Maybe a ban is a bit too much but roblox is shitty and they should be pressured to change… and this applies to most large companies
Can someone tell me how the kids are being forced to make video games. I have read several of these articles and can’t understand the logic. My kids played Roblox and created games on the platform they were never forced or coerced to make anything. Maybe it’s our messed up capitalistic society that expects everybody to monetize anything that’s fun.
The details are too much to go into here in a simple comment. For a full investigation into Roblox check out this video by People Make Games, a games journalism site:
Essentially, Roox makes billions off the free labour of children. The entire eco system is set up to funnel kids into a cycle of consuming others content and producing their own. It’s also completely unregulated which has allowed some shady people, some of whom are, or directly work for, the owners of the platform to set up quasi developer studios where children are subjected to the same appealing treatment and exploitation of the regular games industry, while earning none of the revenue.
Well none of these sources tell me how the kids are forced into this. All these services are free, so I still don’t see the exploitation. Are you saying the kids are tricked into making games for Roblox, if so then maybe that’s on the parents. As a software engineer and having kids who played Roblox their entire lives, I still can’t make the leap of exploitive practices over just capitalism. Maybe show me another platform that kids can learn how the basics of game design while hosting the game at the same time.
More perfect union did a really great video about the exploitation. From what I can remember the crux of the argument goes roughly like this:
Kid plays game, kid is encouraged through game to create content for game. This content created by kid is sold through game to other kids. Kid who put the work into creating this gamemode is not compensated fairly.
The video goes on to explain a lot of other exploitative practices of roblox.
I watched a video a while back about this, but the details are fuzzy. I think it was the one I linked below if you want to look more into it. In essence, there aren’t a ton of cases where kids are actually being forced to work. However, there are strong incentives for kids to work on Roblox projects that the developers themselves push. The devs want a constant stream of content and money coming in, but they don’t want to pay adult workers at adult wages, so they offer Robux to players who make games. It is difficult for people to convert Robux to actual cash, and the money they receive is often significantly less than they would if they put the effort into any other form of work, so many of these kids are essentially making content for the developers for free or significantly less than they should earn. If there was no payout for content creators and the kids were doing that development just because they had passion for the game, it might be a different situation, but there are quite a few kids that believe they can make serious money doing this and don’t understand that the developers are exploiting them and paying very little. Adults can probably do more research and better understand the situation they are getting into, but kids often don’t have the same critical thinking skills as adults and will accept the lie being pushed by the developers and community that they can get rich by contributing to the game they love.
This is such a nothing article. “We asked the creative head of the Space Marine 2 team if he thought the PS5 Pro would improve the framerate. His SHOCKING answer??? ‘Maybe.’”
wouldnt go as far as saying that hasan is a decent human being. no doubt, i rank im way higher than elmo. but that guy is still problematic on so many levels even if his believes align here there with my own. but to apply even more nuance to my shitpost: the most unfair part of my post was to generelise an individual single dev beeing the entirety of the soulless corporation of ubisoft.
/hmm, lots of fans around here. idk how one can fall for this disingenuous fuckface. but you do you.
Hasan, Elon and Ubisoft… what is this, a shit triangle?
no doubt, i rank im way higher than elmo.
idk how one can fall for this disingenuous fuckface.
you know who was disingenuous a moment ago? you.
wouldnt go as far as saying that hasan is a decent human being
Why? just to be clear decent doesnt mean you have to like him, it doesnt mean he is perfect. it just means he generally stands for whats good. he is a good person. its not really a high bar to clear.
decent, adjective
<span style="color:#323232;">1.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behaviour.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">"a decent clean-living individual"
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i hope you realize how much right wing propaganda has gotten to you. if you really care, you should watch hasan’s interview with novara media.
And if you think he doesnt do enough, well he recently went to a bernie/aoc rally and streamed the entire rally to 50k+ viewers. he has done fund raisers for good causes. he went to union protests to raise awareness. many other things that i dont remember right now. thats on top of the positive political commentary he does, in a space that is almost completely dominated by right wingers. you dont have to completely agree with him to realize he is a genuine force for good.
tbh not in the mood to argue with you about it. if your a hasan fan. fair enough. i’m not. as i said i dont consider him as bad as elon, not even in the same ball park. but i still consider him shit. i was even subscribed to him a few years ago. i’ve seen enough first hand. my views on him arent filtered through takes of others.
so i was about to give you the win by going silent and just leave it be.
but:
i hope you realize how much right wing propaganda has gotten to you.
Not who you responded to, but can you share why you don’t like Hasan? I’ve mostly just seen clips of him talking with AOC and Bernie and when he covered the writer’s strike. I don’t know much about him and his content otherwise so I’m wondering if there’s more I should know?
Not the guy. I’ve watched a decent bit of Hasan and if you only listen to what he says, not examine what he does or who he does it for, then he probably seems like a champion for leftist causes.
That being said, he works for Night Media and definitely does not put his money where his mouth is. I personally dislike the hypocrisy.
Night media is a talent agency that was associated with Mr. Beast (you know, during his most popular years) and is still associated with Asmongold (you know, propaganda pointed at young men).
Hasan Piker is the son of a billionaire from Turkey. While I don’t know the specifics of how much money he’s received from him, if any, that doesn’t really matter. The man is a multi millionaire who has made his money on a platform that is absolutely riddled with propaganda mouthpieces. Many people do not see an issue with this, I do.
He also really loves to claim he’s a socialist, yet is a multi millionaire (after buying him and his family a 2.7 million dollar home in L.A.). Too many things don’t add up for me, so I stopped watching him.
All that being said, idk what’s in his heart of hearts. He might not be a bad guy, I might be assuming the worst. Make of it what you will.
Champagne socialist, supports piracy on innocent people, tankie - criticizes Christianity and American imperialism but supports Islam and China’s imperialism.
Wait, did you seriously create an account just to fanboy for Hasan - the champagne socialist, literal piracy supporter, and tankie? Wow, this is really sad.
He is a leftist political twitch streamer, supports Ukraine (just so we can get the fake tankie allegations out of the way), recently did an interview with bernie and aoc, and is just overall a solid character. Now admittedly he had some bad takes over the years but he has apologized/clarified them later.
anyways for context for those not terminally online, Hasan is a leftist twitch streamer (who supports Ukraine*), he made a tweet advertising ac shadows.
some far right elon fan made a brain dead comment about it and elon took the opportunity to also dunk on hasan (because surely he has nothing else to do right?) calling him a “a sellout”, to which hasan replied:
this bitch literally paid someone to powerlevel his character in poe2 lmao. wym i’m a fraud? elon i challenge you to a duel in elden ring. i will cook your fat rolling ass.
which got some 30k likes.
now hasan reply was already a ratio enough but then assassin’s creeds official acc decided to completely destroy elon:
Is that what the guy playing your Path of Exile 2 account told you?
its so bad that even asmongold isnt taking elons side on this one
elons isnt taking this well understandably. getting burned on a platform that he brought for 44b that gotta hurt lmao. like literally no one in the streamers/gaming space is taking his side. anyone that does immediately gets ratioed in the replies.
We should probably be thankful that that narcissistic manchild is so addicted to his social media. Imagine how much more destructive shit he could have accomplished if he actually put his mind to it.
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