comicbook.com

njm1314, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

Sounds like people need to start taking their mods off of there quick.

radix,
@radix@lemmy.world avatar

Might be too late. They changed the policy a few years ago when they introduced mod packs. They didn’t want entire packs to fail if one person pulled their mod, so total deletion was disabled.

Folks can still hide their mods and make new individual downloads impossible, but it’s still there in the background.

(All this is from memory. I hope I’m wrong)

Harvey656,

I think there’s a process for removing mods. The page disappears but if it was in a pack thay version will remain up until the pack author removes it.

It was not a welcomed change, people lost it.

TachyonTele, (edited )

I wouldn't advocate removing mods. Definitely put them on another site though.

Crankenstein,

If they start any nefarious monetization practices, absolutely pull mods. Until then though, I agree. No reason to pull ones that are already there, but definitely be prudent and start casting a wider net.

HarkMahlberg, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth avatar

GOG's move into mod support seems pretty prescient now.

DarrinBrunner, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

They had a good run. It was fun while it lasted.

MemmingenFan923, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

I uninstalled Nexus Mods. Thank you.

Agrivar,

You “uninstalled” a website? Are you trolling or a complete noob?

Justdaveisfine,

Maybe they meant the installable mod manager, Vortex.

Agrivar,

You mean their mod mangler? That POS has never met an install it couldn’t bork!

The right way to mod is either manually, if only using a fairly small number of mods, or using MO2 if doing anything complicated.

twinnie, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

I’ll probably keep using it and see what happens. To be honest I’ll just go where the content is, and if the new people fuck it up it’ll likely go elsewhere.

FinalRemix,

I got a “lifetime membership” on discount right before they did away with that option entirely. I’ll stick around for a bit, too, mostly.out of convenience, but I ain’t contributing, and I’m leaving uBlock on at all times.

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

This is shit but… if people weren’t already concerned over the massive monopoly that Nexus had then they weren’t paying attention.

who, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

I wonder if someone could upload a snapshot of it to the Internet Archive.

wizardbeard, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

Wait, was it confirmed sold? The news post on Nexus fron this morning indicated that the existing head admin and CEO (of 24 years) was just stepping back (and not even away entirely), and had already put the year+ in of identifying two successors from his existing team.

I didn’t see anything regarding a sale, and the existing admin said quite a bit about taking this seriously from a standpoint of what’s best for mod makers and users and not best for business profits.

Edit: I’m not seeing any company name given because as far as I can tell, it wasn’t sold. It’s the same company, same employees, the person at the tip top is just shifting.

And since when is “comicbook dot com” a source for game modding news? Unless someone can show me something from a more direct or reputable source, I think this is just someone running with the most click bait interpretation of the nexusmods post.

Edit x2: Dormedas’s resetera link has some convincing investigation that the two people named as taking over the reigns may work for a company that provides esports training, and also consulting services for user generated content focused companies.

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

They say ownership has changed hands but that it isn’t a corporate “exit”. The whole announcement is extremely vague on the details with the only names given are two people.

dormedas,

Best I’ve got for you is this

Post in thread ‘Nexus Mods site has been sold’ www.resetera.com/threads/…/page-2#post-141554013

wizardbeard,

Thanks! That’s damn good for “best effort”! A convincing lead on what company it may be.

Personally, I still don’t think it’s time for immediate red alert, but I’ll have to keep an eye on things. Hopefully we’ll see some competitors like GameBanana step up to the challenge.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

It’s was a lateral move from one person inside Nexus to another moderator. It wasn’t sold to some faceless corporation

Edit: fuck me I was was wrong:

reddit.com/…/nexus_mods_was_acquired_by_chosen_a_…

etchinghillside,

That’s a good chunk of money for some internal moderator to have on hand. (Not that it was an all cash deal.)

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Yep I was wrong. I edited

Elevator7009,

Thank you for editing with corrected information when wrong!

ChickenAndRice, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
@ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve seen too many services go through enshittification, which is why I’ve always made backups of the mods I installed.

That said, that obviously scales poorly if you download a lot of mods or really massive mods.

ZeroHora, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

They’ll probably implement a daily/hourly download limit like MEGA does. So, for example, you can download 1000000000 small mods of some kbs, but the limit is 5 GB, so the mod bundle for big games is virtually limited to premium users.

They’ll probably try to change the lifetime subscription(the biggest sin in capitalism, how do you make infinite money without doing nothing if people can buy subscription once?), making it useless compared to the premium premium subscription.

Paid mods I think are unlikely, why bother to make a change so unpopular? Milk this shit for a decade and press this button only when shit hits the fan.

Is a enshification process not so painful so the vast majority will not bother to look for alternatives.

In other words: We’re doomed.

Crankenstein,

Paid mods I think are unlikely, why bother to make a change so unpopular? Milk this shit for a decade and press this button only when shit hits the fan.

Unfortunately, I think this will be likely because Nexus has almost entirely cornered the market on mods. It is the place people get their mods from if not the Steam Workshop.

People would have to actually abandon the convenience and go back to scrolling a bunch of games specific forums for their mods. I don’t see that happening unfortunately and I’m pretty sure the executives at the new company know this. It’s a common marketing tactic to exploit the sunk cost fallacy.

JustARaccoon,

Nah there’s some games that still only have stuff on moddb, thunderstore is the main place for v rising and a few other popular titles, and for Minecraft there’s curseforge and modrinth, and GOG is adding mods now too. The community is more fragmented than you’d think

Korhaka,

People make mods to be played surely, why bother using a platform if no one can play your mod from it.

ZeroHora, (edited )
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

? Same reason people use shit platforms? I can’t barely watch Twitch with 3 ads in a row every 30min and they still are the biggest streaming platform even when is shitty to the users and streamers. It’s a community based platform unless the community move to other place they still be big because people is there.

Korhaka,

I was going to ask if twitch was still relevant but then realised I genuinely don’t give a shit.

witty_username, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

Would it be possible to build a fediverse modding platform? What would that look like?

MouldyCat,

I guess you still have the issue of someone needing to pay for the huge number of downloads, most of which are going to come from users who make no other contributions to the site. Maybe you could combine a fedi site with torrents or something?

YiddishMcSquidish,

Can things be fedirated and monetized so long as the monetization is put into maintenance & upkeep?

MouldyCat,

Nothing stopping you trying!

The_Decryptor,
@The_Decryptor@aussie.zone avatar

Yeah this is a perfect use case for torrents, could go a step further and keep track of a downloader’s ratio to stop people leaching.

pulsewidth,

The Internet Archive. No need to reinvent the wheel. Have a discussion with them - set up a new project. Boom - everyone’s mods hosted in perpetuity by a free digital library.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

What would you federate? Would you federate posts of each mod with a link back to the home instance. Would you federate the entire modfile.

I’m not sure activity pub is the right fit here. We would lose so many mods and it would make it much harder to find mods.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Good luck hosting the terabytes of data that mods have.

Crankenstein,

Let me introduce you to torrenting and community distribution of data.

It could be implemented this way so that no one individual would need to fully shoulder the burden of hosting everything.

pulsewidth,

Since mods are almost exclusively unable to be copyrighted nowadays, there is a very good chance the Internet Archive would be more than happy to host the mod data - as they have with many community projects.

Allero,

Federation would allow you to only host mods not hosted at other servers, with some level of redundancy.

Also, it could use a modding app with BitTorrent-like functionality, so that downloaders could share their copies as well.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

So…old mods or mods for uninteresting and obscure games would eventually die because of zero seeders.

I know there’s no easy answer for this question but this would happen. Just try looking on the p2P scene for an unpopular or extremely niche tv show. There’s usually zero or sometimes in a rare occasion less than 3 seeders

Allero,

I wonder if this could be solved on protocol level, i.e. automatically preserve objects with least redundancy, as known to the server.

Like if federated servers hold 50 copies of a file, it’s likely not worthy of saving, but if there is only 1 or 2, it must be stored.

ArchmageAzor, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

Well, there’s still ModDB? (I don’t use ModDB so I dunno if it’s controversial or not)

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Idk if it’s controversial, but I’ve always hated the layout of that site. It seemingly has not changed in decades, either, looking at it now.

SplashJackson, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

I remember getting my Morrowind mods off there. Peanut Gallery edition for me!

sad_detective_man, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
@sad_detective_man@leminal.space avatar

Could have been worse. My first initial on reading the title was that some enshitification factory like Fandom. com or Microsoft had bought it

edit: wait nevermind. Chosen apparently is a literal enshitification company

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