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jjjalljs, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

But it still spooked Wall Street, as parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc.’s shares plummeted as much as 10% following the news.

I think our economy might be predicated entirely on stupid.

Also, $80 is a lot when typical people’s buying power is decreasing. I think like half of americans can’t tank a $500 surprise bill, and they want people to blow nearly 20% of that on a video game? Fuck off, capitalists.

creamlike504,

We (the gaming community) say this every time, but microtransactions and lootboxes have spread like viruses because gamers are buying them.

I hate predatory pricing on principle, but whale votes count for a lot more.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Those systems are literally designed to be psychologically addictive and prey on those weakest to such tactics. It’s not stupidity; it’s literal brain washing via Pavlovian response.

cecilkorik,
@cecilkorik@lemmy.ca avatar

Basic human psychology has been weaponized against us, and they’ve been getting better at it faster than we’re getting better at resisting it, for decades.

jjjalljs,

I don’t think I’ve ever bought a microtransaction or cosmetic. I’m doing my part!

*Ok, i think I paid like $5 into warframe after 200 hours, and I used some fake money from google surveys on pokemon go, so I’m not entirely without sin.

Zahille7,

Hey I spent a little money on Warframe. Shit’s free and fun.

Octavia is my girl.

moody,

(Which from my perspective is very silly — what’s the difference between them making a kajillion dollars in the fall and them making a kajillion dollars in May?)

This “article” was written by a moron who doesn’t seem to know anything about the stock market. I guess it shouldn’t be too surprising for Bloomberg.

Ephera,

Jason Schreier is not a no-name. I would expect the guy to figure it out, if he thought about it for a moment. But yeah, the whole article seems a bit rushed…

renamon_silver, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

At garage sales books can often be found for 25 cents a piece (320 books in $80).

B0NK3RS, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

!patientgamers

There are so many options out there that asking for $80, or whatever the equivalent is, is just ridiculous. I really hope people stand up against this bulshit.

Phegan, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

Don’t pre order games. Don’t buy games at full price. Support indie devs.

trashboat,
@trashboat@midwest.social avatar

Honestly itch.io has plenty of free indie gems that can last me just as long as throwing $80 at a AAA game. I’d rather donate/tip after the fact for genuine well-crafted experiences

Zahille7,

I absolutely love Manic Miners (the fan remake of the old Rock Raiders game). The customization so you can make your own mining crew, all the old-school parts that are in the game, everything about it is fantastic.

lobut,

I will buy indie games at full price, thank you very much.

Zahille7,

I bought Schedule 1 for the full $20 last week.

I can’t stop playing. It’s too fun.

lobut,

it seems I’ve bought it too. Not gonna lie, after reading the description… I have no idea what I’m getting into.

RightHandOfIkaros, (edited )

I’ll still buy FromSoft games at full price. But only because I know they won’t disappoint. And Yoko Taro’s games.

But in general, it would be beneficial for more people to spend less on games.

caseofthematts,

So what’s the difference for Nintendo fans that love any Mario or Zelda game, for example? I’m not trying to be an ass here, but what makes your specific “I only buy this full price” a better decision than someone else’s “I only buy this at full price”?

RightHandOfIkaros,

FromSoftware is not a multi-billion dollar company that has major influence on games peicing in the gaming industry, and when game prices jumped to $70 USD, Armored Core 6 released at $60 and Elden Ring Nightreign will release at $40.

Nintendo is not even close.

piyuv,

Do buy great indie games at full price to support indie devs even more (stardew, Balatro, dead cells, hollow knight, terraria, rimworld….)

psoul,

It’s ok to but indie games even if still a public beta, to support the devs. Had a great time with Factorio, Rimworld, Valheim before 1.0 release.

sp3ctr4l, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

I think Titanfall 2 is still on sale on steam for uh… 5 dollars.

Its got Northstar, a custom client that allows for private multiplayer servers… also works on linux, literally has its own custom proton version.

Oh and there are mods as well, guided installers, mod managers, etc, for windows and linux.

Runs great on a steam deck!

… and looks … basically the same as a shooter from 10 years later, at least at 1280 x 800?

(its built on a custom forked version of the portal 2 source engine, so it actually runs efficiently and looks good =D)

Doesn’t have a huge playerbase, but it is decent enough that you can probably find a few well populated servers, at least in NA region.

… looks like titanfall 3 got turned into an extraction shooter and then cancelled.

So anyway yeah, hilariously its time to return to tradition for enthusiasts of many old school competetive games from before the bullshit of endless battlepasses and MTX kicked into high gear… and as others have pointed out, the indie scene is full of gems.

CH3DD4R_G0BL1N,
@CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works avatar

I just like to add that it has an oft forgotten 4 player PvE coop mode. Also low on players, but not dead, and if you’re lucky enough to have some friends you can guarantee a match. And there are usually populated Northstar servers for it as well. It’s a great mode with progression and the signature combat experience in Titan and as a pilot.

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  • madjo,

    And Microsoft and the other “tRiPlE A” and “QuAdRuPlE A” publishers think they can ride on daddy Ninty’s coattails.

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  • octobob,

    I’m sure “fanboys” is true to some extent but their target audience is children and casual gamers.

    There are so many people that don’t play games beyond Mario kart, animal crossing, party games, etc

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  • dustyData,

    I’m not surprised over 80% were men. That aligns squarely with video gaming as a whole, as a mostly male dominated marked. But at the same time, I couldn’t help but notice that Nintendo forgot to ask this men between 20 and 40 years old whether they had children or were married. Just to put an anecdote out there, me and my cousins are all video game fans. We account as the ones who buy the most games in our family, but the entire family plays. I buy games for nieces and nephews. My cousins buy games and consoles for their own kids and for his wife. This is a big oversight to confound who buys the games with who is playing said games.

    Stern, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
    @Stern@lemmy.world avatar

    I have 170 games in my backlog and the summer sale is coming. I ain’t spending 80 bucks on one video game.

    psoul,

    It’s funny how it’s not even quantity over quality because those 5 to 8 ~$10 to $15 games will provide high quality gameplay and storytelling.

    FenrirIII, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
    @FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

    I pirate games first before buying. Too many games become shit past the return window on Steam. I buy every game I like.

    adept,

    You can return games after the 2h return window. Its just that under 2h is an automated refund

    JTskulk, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

    I made a rule that I can’t spend over $10 on a game until I’ve played through my entire backlog. I haven’t bought a game over $10 in 10 years and I’ve spent $6k on Steam since I started using it.

    notannpc, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

    What AAA title is worth $80? The most time I spend gaming is in a 10 year old shooter, and an indie survival game. Both of which I bought for <$20.

    MeekerThanBeaker,

    I’d say GTA VI would likely earn that for me. I’ll probably spend over 80 hours on that.

    MrScottyTay,

    There’s plenty of jrpgs half that price point with twice the length though. Heck, even the previous GTAs have at least that length for a cheaper price, and are occasionally even cheaper now. Be patient and you’ll likely even get the game given away for free.

    MeekerThanBeaker,

    I’m lucky enough to own literally thousands of games. Most of which I get at a deep discount. Games like GTA and Red Dead are usually an exception where I’ll play on day one. Even though Rockstar tends to milk a title long after a release, the attention to detail is worth the price to me. I’ll still check reviews first however.

    lorty,
    @lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

    Length =/= quality. JRPGs specially love their bloat.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    So much grinding…

    MrScottyTay,

    Exactly

    mostNONheinous,

    Why even suggest a different genre when the man said he will enjoy it?

    MrScottyTay,

    I’m trying to point out that i don’t think that the length of a game shouldn’t really be indicative of the price. I have no issue with him enjoying the game or buying it.

    mostNONheinous,

    Pointing out a game genre with more hours of gameplay for the price is a strange way to point out game length shouldn’t matter.

    MrScottyTay,

    He was saying that £80 was worth it cause of the amount of hours. So i brought up games with similar or more hours that are cheaper. Including prior gta games…

    mostNONheinous,

    Yes, he made a statement. And you answered a question he didn’t ask.

    tal,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    There’s plenty of jrpgs half that price point with twice the length though.

    Gotta like the JRPG genre for those hours to be fun, though.

    I think the last major JRPG I was willing to play to completion was Final Fantasy V.

    I’ll play the occasional CRPG, but JRPGs aren’t really my cup of tea.

    piyuv,

    One you can spend at least 40 enjoyable hours on, I’d say

    Texas_Hangover,

    KCD2 Is pretty damn amazing.

    carlossurf,

    Yeah and its worth the 80$ cause it takes like 80 hours to finish lol

    Texas_Hangover,

    Finish? It took me 80 hours to find my fucking dog.

    timmy_dean_sausage,

    … There’s an icon for him on the map…

    Texas_Hangover,

    I did take a pretty circuitous route… Kept getting distracted.

    Tudsamfa, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
    @Tudsamfa@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s basically what I’ve been saying ever since the switch 2 announcement, I’m glad I can just copy the Sources from this article to support my intuition. Thank you, Superjoost!

    PanArab, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
    @PanArab@lemm.ee avatar

    I will continue to wait until games go on discount

    ThunderComplex, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

    I’ve only bought one $80 game thus far (And that was during a 30% steam sale so only $55) and from my years of experience of buying games, I can confidently say that my enjoyment in games goes down as price goes up.

    Although weirdly all of the $80 games that released so far have been pretty bad so that’s strange.

    InfiniteHench, do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
    @InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

    Just like other aspects of commerce, we’ll see what the market does. I hate to say it that way, but that’s simply how it works. Look at what’s happening to McDonalds right now. They’ve been raising prices for years, now tariffs have made things even worse, and people have responded accordingly and go to McDonalds less. Ball is in their court.

    Another good example is the recent news about Beyoncé no longer filling major concert venues. I know there’s a lot of factors going on in these situations, but the truth at the core of it is that prices finally went up to a point where a not insignificant portion of her audience noped out of the transaction. Simple commerce.

    flop_leash_973, (edited ) do games w Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

    For the GTA delay, if it is so they can release a less bug filled finished product instead of the usual AAA strategy as of late of throwing whatever out and maybe kinda patching it later on, then good on them for doing it how it should be done. I probably won’t buy it either way since I haven’t cared for the tone of any of the GTA games since San Andreas personally, but for the people that will it is a good thing.

    As for the price of games in general. I’m not opposed to theoretically paying $80, or even more, for a game I deem worth that kind of money. Never have been. The issue is 99% of the time the games in question aren’t worth that kind of money. As an example, I am a Hitman fan. Over the course of the varies releases since 2016 to what is now just called Hitman: World of Assassination, I have spent well over $100 for maps and content. And I don’t regret it because the end result is a huge game that I have gotten untold hours of enjoyment out of over the last ~9 years.

    The AAA players have simply started to price themselves out of their own market, and smaller players have started to fill the void they left behind.

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