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Nosavingthrow, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Probably everytbing put out by Nintendo in a long time. Yes, even that one. That one, too.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Don’t censor yourself, who are you afraid of??

Mario Kart World

Just say it

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

Excuse you, but Breath of the Wild was amazing.

Nosavingthrow,

Breath of the Wild was basically a Ubisoft game with a Zelda coat of paint.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Ubisoft wishes they could make a game that good.

Nosavingthrow,

They do make games that good, hence the comparison.

Blackmist,

But instead of playing the map as a menu screen, you actually play in the world and discover things.

That was the crucial difference for me.

Nosavingthrow,

I envy you and wish I could see games through your eyes.

Iunnrais,

I don’t think Blackmist has a hot take here. The Ubisoft formula is: navigate to a tower. Tower gives you a checklist of things to do. You do the things, then look for a new tower.

Breath of the Wild is different. Yes, you start by navigating to a tower, but then… no checklist is given. You look around, you explore, you find things to do. Maybe you find everything, maybe you miss things, maybe you miss everything. You can always come back and explore more later… and when you’ve done everything, you can’t really be CERTAIN that you got it all. The lack of a checklist dramatically shifts the gameplay from doing a list of events, with little difference from selecting them from a menu, to actually having to explore the world and look around.

To call it the Ubisoft formula is to vastly misunderstand what the Ubisoft formula is. The formula is a list of things to do. BotW does not have that. Not even slightly. The towers are just something to aim for to get you started, and a place you can use your eyes to look around from, also to get you started.

Blackmist,

And to add to that, it also gives you the tools for discovery. It’s not just “Ubisoft, but they hide the icons”.

The shrine detector (which can become an anything detector), the ability to look through binoculars or whatever it is and stamp a limited number of visible waypoints onto the map. Tears of the Kingdom gives you a slightly obscure ability to highlight all the cave entrances nearby, which you can then try to mark up and see if you’ve been there.

Other games have started trying to do some of this, but I think a lot of it is added late on in development and doesn’t really work well. Like Jedi Survivor gives you the ability to mark things with icons, but what for? You can’t see the markers when you’re walking around. There’s not really much to discover from a distance, and it’s pretty far from being a vast open world.

Is it perfect? No. The last few shrines are often a complete ball-ache to find, although a lot of them are just a generic fight and they’re pretty optional, it feels like you should do them.

Is it better than a world as a menu screen as offered by Ubisoft and those that copy them? Yes.

I think in general a lot of developers should take a long look at what they’re actually trying to make before going with the open world approach. It’s getting tired, and they’re mostly doing it badly.

FluorideMind,

Basically sure. But the devil is in the details.

MouldyCat, do games w Interesting interview with the creator of Junk store on YouTube

Gardiner Bryant is great. So great, you don’t have to suffer YouTube to keep up with his videos, he also publishes to PeerTube:

peertube.wtf/w/omBg7MPgFSZAB7YkWEYGdu

UKFilmNerd, do games w Resident Evil fans, meet your Victorian cousin
@UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk avatar

I can’t believe we thought that tank controls were good back then.

Nindelofocho, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Pretty much every modern AAA game. Theres an exception here and there but really smaller studios have been making bangers that AAA studios just cant seem to touch

Nalivai,

Yeah, big studios are setting up to create the mediocrest game they can imagine. Taking risks might make the line not go up, and they can’t have this happening.
Ironically, this leeds to creation of absolute dogshit more often than not.

suswrkr, do gaming w Don't hate the player

it’s free on usenet. just saying.

NotProLemmy, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 15th

Currently playing Factorio: Space Age.

It is peak automation. It also has a lot of replayability thx to mods. It’s also cross-platform.

Iceman, do gaming w Don't hate the player

Microsoft sets the price and they whant you to subscribe to gamepass so they can lock you in and eventually shitefy it

deathgrindfreak, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Dark Souls 2

ElectricEelPoweredAxe, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 15th

Primarily Titan Fall 2. Been wanting to try it for a bit now and it really exceeds my expectations. Love the movement, shooting, and feel of everything. Only thing I really don't enjoy is the titan sections but outside of that it kind of rules.

GammaGames,

The Titan sections in TF|2 confused me, half of them were basic arenas and the other half were basic arenas with bosses. I played a lot of Titanfall 1 and when I would play aggressively I’d go entire matches without losing my titan, it felt more like Gundam Doom. I think it’s because they actually balanced the sequel

Anyway the campaign is fantastic, so creative and always keeps it interesting. The mech sections aren’t even bad, some of their levels are beautiful and there are some good arenas, they just weren’t what I expected

Aielman15, (edited ) do games w Resident Evil fans, meet your Victorian cousin
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Ha! I heard of this one, but haven’t been able to try it yet. As a huge fan of old school RE games, it piqued my interest. Thank you for reminding me of it. I shall pick it up as soon as I have some free time.

I’ll also mention another, even lesser known title: Kabus 22. It’s an old Turkish videogame that’s clearly inspired by classic RE titles. Not very good, but I have a soft spot for games that were developed with more love than knowledge on game design. Also the developer is a really nice dude who re-released the game for free as a thank you to the fans who reached out to him, and that’s such a sick move that I can’t help but have a lot of respect for him.

There’s a good retrospective in YT about the game here, if anyone’s curious.

eezeebee, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 15th
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Started my first playthrough of Sekiro and it’s really hard. I’m slowly embracing the playstyle, but I have so many habits to break from the other Souls games. I like it, but I don’t think I’ll be up for NG+ if I ever finish the NG run.

Also started playing Sable and I really like it so far. It kind of feels like an open world Zelda type of game without combat. It’s quite relaxing, and the art style is absolutely beautiful.

jjjalljs,

Sekiro is one of my favorites. I like that it’s not really about leveling, and it pretty much gets right into it. I could pick it up today and blast through a new game.

Do you know how to do the lightning reversal? There are a handful of bosses that it really counters.

eezeebee,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Do you know how to do the lightning reversal?

I think so in theory. I acquired it, but haven’t found anyone using lightning yet. LB to parry/absorb, RB to unleash it?

Have not made it past Genichiro phase 1 yet so I went elsewhere looking for powerups. I beat Juzou first try, but the long arm centipede man took hours, a lot like every other boss and mini boss lol.

mohab,

I think Juzou and Genichiro is where I stopped. Game's offense is so boring I realized I'll have much more fun if I replay Ninja Gaiden 2 again, so I went and did that instead.

jjjalljs,

You have to jump when you’re doing it, too. if you touch the ground before it finishes, it won’t work and you’ll just get shocked.

If you clear some post-game optional challenges, there’s a special move you can unlock that does it easier, but that’s only useful if you want to do NG+

Hours on the centipede man, you say? Once you get into the deflect rhythm, they’re very satisfying. Fill their posture right up and then finish them. But without the timing, you’re going to take a lot of chip damage or get posture broken yourself :(

chloyster,

I had a similar experience and didn’t think I would do ng+ but still pretty much immediately started it and did another playthrough lol

rafikki, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Ultima IX. I somehow never played the earlier installments despite being of the right age to have, and enjoyed the hell out of IX. In retrospect, the massive amounts of criticism were earned, I just came into it fresh and was enthralled by the world.

SteposVenzny, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 15th

I have lost so many Baldur’s Gate 3 Honour Mode runs because I’ve accidentally blown up the Zentarim hideout.

Did you know that having a torch equipped as your melee weapon means you’re considered to be carrying an open flame even when you’ve switched to have your ranged weapon out? I just found that out yesterday. Always learning new and exciting ways to explode.

danhab99, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
@danhab99@programming.dev avatar

Team Fortress 2:

I’d say its gameplay is more “robust” than special. Like you can have any and every kind of fight in TF2 but none of it is more special than an FPS that specializes in any game mode.

afansfw, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Enter the Matrix, I loved the slowmo effects and the fights, the first hallway scene felt like it was straight from the movie. Using the computer terminal to unlock stuff felt magical. Only later I learned that Path of Neo was supposed to be a better Matrix game while Enter the Matrix was universally panned. And I’ve played it too, but didn’t get as much enjoyment out of it, it just didn’t have as much soul

obrenden,

Enter the Matrix was dope. Fuck the haters.

Sylvartas,

I loved enter the matrix. It was lowkey more fun with the cheats though

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