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buddascrayon, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I had read that Steam on WINE is pretty stable. Is it not?

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Steam runs natively and uses proton for game compatibility, similar idea to wine but it’s geared for games

It’s pretty good. Most games will run, sometimes with a little jiggling to get it to work, although performance isn’t quite as good (some games are particularly rough)

I’m technically dual booting, but I haven’t launched Windows in almost a year, and there’s only been a handful of games I passed on primarily because of support

buddascrayon,

I have a small laptop that I’m testing this stuff out on before I put together a new computer from parts I ordered before the tariffs took effect.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

My top pick right now is fedora silverblue, I’m running it on my test bed/server and I’ve been impressed

I’m running bazzite on my main one, which is related but geared towards steam and maximizing game support, it’s pretty good and closer to “just works” for any kind of gaming device, it’s less polished but it’s still pretty good

chronicledmonocle, (edited )

Valve made a compatibility layer for the Steam Deck and Linux called Proton. It uses a lot of technologies, including WINE, dxvk, and more to make Windows games run well on Linux. It basically takes Windows API calls and translates them to Linux with little to no performance penalty.

Steam also has native builds for Windows, macOS, ChromeOS, and Linux now, so you can just install it. Most Linux distros have Steam right in their software manager now.

Typically, unless the game has blocked Linux with something like kernel-level anticheat, it’ll “just work” on Linux now. There is a community database called ProtonDB that has a list of games and how well they do or don’t work.

Hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions.

MrsDoyle, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

My (perfectly good) PC isn’t Win 11 compatible, so I can’t upgrade from 10. I’ve got Linux running on an old laptop so I’m thinking of installing it on my PC. Buuut a few years back I moved from Google Drive to OneDrive and so now I’m looking at Proton Drive instead. It’s all a big time soak, sigh. But worth it? I guess… The timing isn’t great either - I’ve got an exam in October that I need to study hard for and do practical prep as well, plus I have travel plans. It’s all a bit much. I’m too old to be this busy!

Sendpicsofsandwiches, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?
@Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works avatar

The Ship. It’s normally supposed to be a social deduction game, but some friends and I all get together in a private server and basically just play deathmatch. It’s hilarious because most of fhe weapons are really hard to kill with and you still have to be sneaky because if you get caught, you go to jail (which is also full of shanks). It always leads to some great chaos, especially with more people.

RebekahWSD,
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

Whenever I played The Ship back in the day or always seemed it was mostly murder and no deduction other than “did my target change outfits”?

Good game though. Very fun.

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I have Windows only for League, no Steam installed. Ergo I don’t count

Someone8765210932, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I technically have a Win10+Linux dual boot setup right now, but I haven’t used the Linux install in forever, and I think it’s broken. So I’ll probably fix this and then use Linux when possible and continue using the unsupported win10 for everything that needs windows.

I remember people mentioning the win10 LTCS version with 10 years support, but I’m not going to buy anything from them. Maybe I’ll use it unactived if needed.

chronicledmonocle,

Cough MassGravel Activation Scripts Cough

boonhet, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux for gaming and most other use cases, Windows for the one proprietary application I use. Although I suppose I might go IoT LTSC.

JakobFel, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

Switching to Linux with no intentions of moving back. I’m fed up with MS. I’m not settled on which distro (and I don’t want to distro hop on my main machine) but I know for sure that I’m switching.

pinball_wizard,

I’m not settled on which distro

I distro hop a lot, myself, but I always hear nice things about Linux Mint. (And last time I used Mint, I had no complaints.)

Edit: Folks here also swear by Bazzite for gaming.

JakobFel,
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

I love trying other distros but I can’t afford to regularly be down a few days to a week to restore backups, which is why I want my main system to stick with a distro long-term. Mint is definitely one of my strongest considerations for sure.

Mio, (edited ) do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I am on Fedora. But i still have Windows dual boot left. But I dont use Windows 10 that often - I don’t see the need. I just have it as a backup OS. I have free enough diskspace on my SSD so currently not doing anything.

pinball_wizard,

But I dont use Windows 10 that often - I don’t see the need. I just have it as a backup OS. I have free enough diskspace on my SSD so currently not doing anything.

I did exactly that for many years. And then one day I had something that called for booting to a separate OS, so…

my solutionTrusting Windows with whatever it was still made me nervous, and I crammed an Ubuntu Live USB into a USB port and booted to that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯But keeping Windows around on unused disk space didn’t do me any harm.

dbkblk, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

20 years for me (even thought I used Windows for a year in there). There’s no point in using Windows at all, unless you’re forced at work, or stuck because you don’t want to learn an alternative tool.

JakobFel,
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

There’s also the issue of people who regularly play games with kernel AC, particularly with studios who intentionally refuse Linux support.

dbkblk,

Yes, but honestly, I find that games enforcing incompatible AC are often poorly developed games. The latest that disappointed me was EA WRC. It was quite good, but the gameplay was less interesting that Dirt Rally 2, for exemple, and since they enforced AC, they also started to deploy DLC, and destroy the game. The lesson was to never ever buy something from Electronic Arts (the last time was more than 10 years ago for me). And kernel level anti-cheat is NO GO on my computer. It doesn’t matter if the game is awesome or not, I disagree with the fact that a game company has root access on my computer just for entertainement.

Dremor, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

It has been already 2 years for me, I have no intention of looking back. It even works better than Windows at times.

PillBugTheGreat,

Whatd you jump to?

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Took some time to settle, for various reasons, but I’m currently on Fedora Silverblue.

I tried some of its derivatives (Aurora, Bazzite), as well as OpenSuse, but came back to Fedora and Gnome because of various issue with KDE and OpenSuse asking for root password everywhere.

flop_leash_973, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I left Windows ~2-3 years ago since I got tired of having to keep up with ways to disable the MS account requirements or disable the ads every time there is a major version upgrade on a platform I use every day.

Moobythegoldensock, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m on 12, and will be upgrading to 13 when Trixie hits stable.

secret300, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Been using Linux for years and the only issue with it is the incompetence of big studios. And them going out of their way to make sure stuff doesn’t work on Linux.

SplashJackson, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Why need upgrade at all? I’ve never needed “support” before

zewm,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

I hope this is a sarcastic joke.

If it’s not, support means updates. More importantly security updates.

There is a reason you don’t put a windows XP machine on the internet.

chaogomu,

XP might actually be somewhat safe to connect by now. Most of the viruses and worms have updated past it by now.

GoodLuckToFriends,

Noooooo. There was an article in the last 6 months about someone connecting a windows xp to the internet just to see what happened, and within 10 minutes it had been scanned and infected. They repeated the experiment several times.

It’s child’s play (like, literally script kiddie level) to run automated scans and if a vulnerability, like a really old operating system, is found to then attack it.

chaogomu,

Well, security through obscurity never really did work

Trainguyrom,

The “support” most importantly includes security updates. You better bet every hacking group has been working at finding fresh zero days for Windows 10 and is stockpiling them to start hammering any PCs that can’t be upgraded this October

REDACTED,

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong, but didn’t MS push important security updates to Win7 even after end of support?

SkaveRat,

They are doing that only for paying users for 10

…microsoft.com/…/windows-10-supports-ends-on-octo…

Danitos,

That was an exceptional case, I think with the WannaCry malware. Not something they’ll regularly do.

Atmoro,

Think of it this way:

Would you rather leave door wide open and signs saying come inside and take all the info about me, along with all my moment

Or

Have your data, & money protected in all kinds of defense systems so it makes billions times harder to take all of that

That’s what security updates are for. Same for other apps as well when they find things bad actors will try to exploit

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

In fairness, after October that security system will still be in place. The difference is that as soon as attackers finds a bypass, the security system will be worthless against future threats

sevan,

I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some exploits that have already been discovered that people have been sitting on in anticipation of support ending soon.

ArchmageAzor, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know. If more devs start to support Linux, I probably will.

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