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spankmonkey, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?
@spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

The original Neverwinter Nights after Baldur’s Gate 3.

NWN was fantastic for it’s time, loved the DM mode and online mods, but the clunky movement and walls of text without voiceovers just can’t compare.

ampersandrew,
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I’m trying to see some stuff in BG1 and 2 that I missed as I take another lap through the entire series, and I remember BG1 being a fairly easy, straight-forward game, but now that I’m replaying it, I remember that’s only the tail end of the game. Early in the game, when you’re stuck at level 1 for hours, lots of attacks just one-shot you, and it takes so long to get level 2. In Baldur’s Gate 3, you’re barely out of the tutorial area before you get level 2, so you just don’t have that problem with low HP.

spankmonkey,
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I think BG3 also does max HP for 5e classws which is higher than the edition(s) used for 1 & 2. Did 1 & 2 use random HP for first level as well?

ampersandrew,
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I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of 2e, but I think first level HP might be set in stone by class, and the Enhanced Editions of BG1 and 2 give you a max HP per level option, which doesn’t really help at level 1. Dynaheir keeps getting smoked with her mere 6HP, and she can’t get to level 2 fast enough.

Pronell,

Yeah, 2nd edition d&d was far, far more brutal than 5e.

chonglibloodsport,

If you’re revisiting BG1 via the Enhanced Edition it’s actually been changed a lot from the original game. One of the biggest differences is that summoning spells don’t scale in the number of minions you get the way they did in the original. I remember summoning great big walls of skeletons with Animate Dead and just having my entire party pelt the enemy with slings and arrows from relative safety. Can’t do that anymore!

ampersandrew,
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Pelting the enemy with slings and arrows still works, but now and then they’ll still target me at range and land a hit. I don’t have a summoner in my party either, so I doubt I’d see a difference, especially at level 1.

dogslayeggs,

I tried playing Baldur’s Gate 2 after a few full plays of BG3, and it was nearly unplayable.

tal,

I got through the original NWN multiple times, as well as various mods.

I got bored partway through BG3, never finished. Barely touched NWN 2.

CheeryLBottom, (edited )

I had started The Aielund Saga a couple of weeks ago. I never did finish the first time.

NWN is something I like to go back to, same with Titan Quest Because they are my comfort games. Meanwhile, I have so many newer games piling up

chonglibloodsport,

I actually prefer walls of text these days. I find myself too impatient to sit through long, voice-acted diatribes. I can read 10 times faster than the voice actor can speak, so I just end up turning on subtitles and skipping most of the voice acting anyway.

I also just find that voice acting tends to compromise the amount of writing. They just won’t have the VA read a wall of text and instead they’ll cut it right down, removing tons of nuance. Voice also similarly compromises the amount of dialogue options available to the character. I have yet to see a voice acted game with the sheer breadth and depth of dialogue option choices as games like Planescape Torment or Fallout 2.

spankmonkey,
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While I agree with you on how mediocre voice acting drags down most games, BG3 is one of the very few where the voice acting elevated the dialogue for me and the dialogue felt a lot less rambling than in NWN and other similar games. In BG3 the player character dialogue options are pretty robust, sometimes having six or more options to choose from, since the character doesn’t speak. I haven’t played Planescape Torment or Fallout 2 to compare, so I’ll take your word on them.

On a side note, BG3 was one of the games where the dialogue choices do matter. The worst are games where there are only a few poorly described choices and they have zero impact on what happens after! While I live Battletech (2019) the dialoge choices were completely pointless other than microfosing information. They would have been better off just having the NPCs banter after a single choice.

Personal preferences of course, which is why I love how many games there are to choose from.

samus12345,

Special shoutout to Astarion. His voice actor adds a LOT to the character, more than any of the others.

spankmonkey,
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I don’t normally like that kind of character but he really grew on me fast. Astarian, Gale, and Karlach are my absolute favorites but the cast as a whole is solid.

samus12345,

Love Karlach, but I couldn’t stand Gale.

spankmonkey,
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That’s what I am glad they included enough for personal preference and included the ability to respec them so they weren’t locked into their starting classes.

samus12345,

While I didn’t like his class much, it was his personality that really got me. I saw he can become a literal god in some endings. Sure didn’t happen in mine!

ascense, do games w Best game ever?

Has to be Outer Wilds for me. I can’t think of any other game that would have left such an impact on me, in such a short amount of time.

sploosh,

I heard how great the Outer Wilds was, so when I saw The Outer Worlds on sale I thought “oh hey sure I’ll buy that for $15” and I was EXTREMELY confused at why people had said it was the best game you could only play once, because that game wasn’t even fun the first time. I later realized my mistake and got the real deal and oh my god I wish I could forget that game and play it again.

LovableSidekick, do games w Skill issue

Understandable - management has a natural affinity with dumbass.

REDACTED, do games w LAN (local area network) games

Note that many games with no official lan support can often still be modded into LANplay. I even played thru Escape from Tarkov with my cousin (lan, coop), which is originally multiplayer game

Elevator7009sAlt, do games w Skill issue

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  • RightHandOfIkaros,

    How it feels to play as Killer in Dead By Daylight, win, and then the loser Survivors tell you in the end game chat to “get better” and that “you are trash at the game.”

    Panamalt, do games w Best game ever?

    There is no such thing as a ‘Best Game Ever’, but it’s Mass Effect 2

    Panamalt,

    To those downvoting, yall need to be calibrated

    Hotzilla,

    I would say that knights of the old republic was better

    Panamalt,

    Honestly just missing the old days of rpg games now, KotOR was the shit

    Vopyr,
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    Best in the series, imo, the only thing I don’t like is these paragon/renegade quicktime events.

    Vopyr, (edited ) do games w Best game ever?
    @Vopyr@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t think I have any favorites, there are too many great games to determine the best game, well… VA-11 Hall-A. It’s one of the few games that really touched me and affected my emotions deeply. Also, I love this game ost, one of the best game soundtracks ever, imo.

    drasglaf,
    @drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’ve played it 3 or 4 times in the last few years since I bought it, I love it. I hope the sequel ends up happening one day.

    Vopyr,
    @Vopyr@lemmy.world avatar

    I only recently remembered about the sequel, I thought it had been canceled, but it seems that the development is still going on.

    rabber, do games w Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year

    I remember people complaining about that movie when it came out actually

    2ugly2live, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?
    @2ugly2live@lemmy.world avatar

    Fatal Frame 1. I think it may be the only one with a different button map for the camera and it’s so annoying. I purposely only emulate it so I can remap the buttons.

    ShinkanTrain, do games w Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year

    Meme of Giancarlo Esposito / Gus adjusting his tie with the caption “You won’t buy Assassin’s Creed Shadows because you’re racist, I won’t buy it because Ubisoft games are shit. We’re not the same”

    VitoRobles,

    I hate that I’m on the same side as the racists though.

    Thanks a lot Ubisoft.

    ShinkanTrain,

    It’s Far Cry 5 all over again

    emb, do games w Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year

    Game seems cool, but it requires a download to play. They don’t meet my basic requirements for a game I’d even consider buying.

    glimse,

    “doesn’t have to be downloaded” is a basic requirement of a game for you in 2025?

    emb,

    Yep! And it’s really surprising to me that so many people are OK with that sort of defective-by-design anti-feature. It’s a single player game, why would it have any dependence on networks or servers of any sort?

    Not to say that I’m against digital distribution altogether, I think that’s a perfectly valid preference w/ pros and cons.

    But if you are going to sell the video game on a disc? Shipping a whole playable game seems like a pretty low bar to meet. Most games (that get a physical release) in [current year], for every year that exists so far, don’t have a problem managing to do this.

    Halosheep,

    … Are there discs that can contain 123GB of data? Should they just start distributing tiny solid state drives you plug in to your pc and play from?

    keyez,

    The highest capacity blu ray disc can hold 128GB

    emb,

    Fair point, some games are very big. FFVII Rebirth and Baldur’s Gate 3 shipped on 2 discs though, it’s not unheard of.

    Rin,

    They fit GTA V on a single disk on launch. Sure, textures were blocky and effects looked like piss but you could play the entire game offline.

    VitoRobles,

    My basic requirements is that it’s a good game from a respectable company.

    And even if it is a good game by reviewer standards, Ubisoft has been an awful studio to the game industry for the past decade. From sexual harassment lawsuits to investing in web3, shutting down servers that causes single player games to lose features, having their own storefront, being creatively bankrupt with their releases, nickel and diming their product…

    Not the worse mind you, but easily the bottom.

    Buy it when it’s $5 on steam in a few years.

    RxBrad, do games w Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year
    @RxBrad@infosec.pub avatar

    People raging about videogames being woke

    VERSUS

    People raging about people raging about videogames being woke.

    …FIGHT!!!

    Rin, do games w Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year

    In the same way that someone replaced all rainbow flags with confederate battle flags in Spiderman, someone’s gonna mod the game to change the character’s texture, then racists will also be happy (unless the game is shitty idk).

    CosmoNova, do games w Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year

    Headline makes it sound Uni posted this, but it doesn‘t look like it.

    zecg,
    @zecg@lemmy.world avatar

    I was misinformed by an Azerbaijani home electronics swap meet board

    mctoasterson, do gaming w Oh boy 3AM!

    I used to do this when I was below 30 and it works pretty well for a time. If you work and have a family, this is the only segment of time you can carve into, to create more time for yourself.

    One thing to be careful about though- there is growing evidence that not getting enough sleep earlier in your life like this can lead to dementia when you’re older.

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