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OpenPassageways, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Upgrade tool says my hardware isn’t supported, seems like I can enable TPM on my motherboard but it doesn’t work right for some reason I think I managed to install Windows 10 without secure boot or something, not sure if those two are even related. I was thinking maybe I’d have to reinstall windows 10 with those modules enabled in order to upgrade to windows 11… Has anyone else encountered something similar?

JAWNEHBOY,

Yeah, said I had to buy a tpm module for my mobo to upgrade to win11. My steam deck works so well running arch based Linux I searched “gaming arch Linux” in DuckDuckGo and installed CachyOS. Easier and cleaner than installing windows 10 when I built my PC and the constant updates are awesome (they also offer long term support LTS builds). Highly recommend, I have an Nvidia 2070 Super and CachyOS has been a great upgrade from Windows 10.

deepfuckingdumb,

Those two are related. Windows 11 requires both UEFI (secure boot) and TPM. Microsoft has a tool for converting a legacy install to UEFI. (backup your data beforehand as always)

OpenPassageways,

Wow, looks like exactly what I need! I’ll give it a try, thanks!

Kolanaki, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

It’s not like that shits gonna make your computer explode the day they end support lol

sanpedropeddler,

Sure, but I wouldn’t recommend using a system that gets no security updates. Its more than worth upgrading or switching to linux to avoid that.

lengau,

No that feature is only planned for TPM v3

BradleyUffner,

The viruses and exploits will though.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar
danciestlobster, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I would love some advice, personally. How big of an issue is this really? Like…do I really have to care if there aren’t system updates anymore? How big of a security risk is it actually?

VanillaFrosty,

Well the thing is, we don’t know. Maybe 10 is patched so well that no one is hanging onto a major exploit just waiting for EOL. Or so well that no new major exploits are found (extremely unlikely). Then so long as you’re just gaming or watching YouTube it doesn’t really matter.

But someone could be holding onto one or someone could stumble into one. And all it takes is one. So it’s always just a gamble with unknowable odds.

isaaclw,

I wonder if I could jail it from the rest of my network.

The problem I guess is if I dual boot, I wont feel like the data on linux is safe, and Id need to ensure I set up and take down the jail while booting windows…

I guess I should just fix the linux issues that make my gaming experience less fun. Maybe I need a fancier graphics card.

Ledivin,

In the short-term (0-6mo, maybe less): probably nothing really changes. It’s not super likely that anyone would be holding on to a massive flaw, waiting for EOL. Nothing stops Microsoft from patching after EOL for something major, they’ve done it before.

Medium-term (maybe up to a year or two): you’re looking at real potential to get infected with --who-knows-what–. Hard to say how long it would take or how widespread it would be.

Longer term: massive, massive security hole. Microsoft has probably even patched a major thing or two by now (despite EOL), but there will always be more

Thadrax,

Sooner or later the issue will be that some software probably won’t be available any more for your system.

beastlykings,

This is a minor issue compared to the security risks. See the other comment in this thread for a good explanation.

tobz619, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I would like to switch to Linux on my gaming machine but me and my girlfriend play Valorant together so I can’t switch just yet.

My server and laptop already run NixOS, I’m just looking forward to the day my gaming/main machine join them too

gusgalarnyk, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Swapped to Arch Linux! I wouldn’t say it’s been a bug free swap but it’s been extremely doable and everything I needed to work worked like a charm. Gaming was uninterrupted and nothing hasn’t worked yet.

I need to figure out how to connect my stupid printer but I couldn’t do that on windows either, which is sad cause I thought printers were gonna be easier on Linux but I guess this brother model is a pain in the ass or something. Oh and connecting to network drives while on a VPN. That’s my list of pending problems and I’ve been on Linux for two months. Not bad really.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

aur.archlinux.org/…/brother-cups-wrapper-ac this might help you if regular cups doesn’t work!

gusgalarnyk,

It wasn’t a silver bullet. I’ll keep working on this. HL-L2400DW. Freaking nightmare printers are.

Thanks for trying.

umbraroze, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?
@umbraroze@slrpnk.net avatar

Most of my time in Elden Ring has been 1) ogling at the landscapes going “Holy shit this is metal”, and 2) bravely running away.

Sebastrion,

What? How else i’m supposed to play it?

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

Bravely running away is the quintessential FromSoft experience. The ultimate flex on enemies is to not even bother attacking them and just rolling to dodge occasionally while you grab items and run past them to the next checkpoint.

Surp, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Unfortunately not. Even as an IT person I can say I just wanna come home and boot up my games without hassle. Sure alot of things have been done with proton etc but still a massive amount of games don’t work without Soo much dang tweaking. I don’t have time for that especially with a job/being a single parent. I am highly interested in steamos though.

gigglybastard,

that’s also my excuse, but then again, i don’t even game that much. and i’m on rtx 3070 which will be getting too old soon for new games and new GPUs are just too expensive.

And god i hate w11. i mean it’s not that different than w10 but things just don’t work!

my logitech mouse stutters for no fucking reason, 10 year old games lag for no fucking reason. the whole windows lags after being waken up from sleep after a few days, i could go on and on. none of these problems existed on w10.

stormeuh,

Why not dual-boot with steamos in that case? Sure, some things may not work out-of-the-box now, but work is constantly being done and at least won’t regress like the step from W10 to W11.

gigglybastard,

honestly, i’m just lazy. I would need to clear out one of my drives, i have three of them, 256gb, 512gb and 2tb. I keep windows on the smallest one. I would need to clear out the 512gb one and just get it done.

might get it done when w11 pisses me off a few more times :D

Blackmist,

rtx 3070 which will be getting too old soon for new games

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/413873be-7c56-4eb0-bdfc-3f2600c4581f.webp

Kinperor,

I had the same outlook before switching to Arch Linux, but honestly gaming on Linux is actually the lesser of my hassle. I can genuinely just grab msi files or exe files for games and feed them to Steam to get them playing via Proton. There’s only one (1!) game that I can’t play, and I’m 99% certain it’s a problem with my hardware, not my OS (Monster Hunter Wilds seems to hate my GPU and crash all the time). But even that was fixed with a mod (up until the latest update).

With that said, I’ve had a lot of hassle handling other things that are upstream of gaming so it’s not like you’re unreasonable in wanting an OS that is mostly stable. Then again, I made the decision to use Arch Linux, there’s distros that are simpler afaik.

lagoon8622,

Is Windows actually stable though? I used to have to use it for work, it’s a disgusting OS. Now I use Ubuntu for work, also disgusting, but it’s much better than Windows

Kinperor,

“Mostly stable”. I’ve had my fair share of issues with Windows.

But one of the big benefit is that it is much easier to diagnose an issue on Windows, just by sheer volume of mainstream usage (IE users complaining about issues and seeking help online). Also, tech support won’t turn you around because you are on Linux, an OS they straight up refuse to support.

Aceticon, (edited )

I thought the same, especially since I had tried Linux on my main several times since the 90s (my first dual boot was with Slackware).

Then maybe 8 months ago I did the transition, and installed Pop!OS since I’m a gamer plus I have a NVidia graphics card and didn’t want to go through the whole hassle related to that (Pop!OS has a version which already comes with those drivers).

Mind you, I did got a separate SSD for Linux and meanwhile added a new one, which is where my games directory is mounted and upgraded the root one to something a bit bigger,

So, this time around, what did I find out in about 8 months of use:

  • Once, I did had to boot into CLI mode and have apt do some failed upgrades, which included doing some kind of rebuild thing (you get instructions of what command to run when apt fails). This was due to a upgrade of the apt itself, I believe. All the other times it just boots to graphics mode (I’m using X rather than Wayland) or if it fails to start it (happened only a handful of time) you just reboot it.
  • In general even though I’ve done things like add and change hardware components, I have done little tweaking via CLI and some of it I did it because I’m just more comfortable with it or wanted so obscure options (for example, I wanted to mount the drive shared with Windows with a specific user and group, so I had to edit fstab). Except for the more obscure stuff there are UI tools for all management tasks and one doesn’t have to actually do much management and things almost always just work (for example, I changed graphics card - whilst staying with NVidia - and it just booted and worked, no tweaks necessary)
  • As for games, I use Steam for Steam Games and Lutris for all other game versions including GOG. Both have install scripts specific for each game, that configure Wine appropriately, so you seldom have to do anything but install, launch and play. That said in average I have had to tweak maybe 1 in 10 games. Further, about 1 in 20 I couldn’t get them to work. If you do install pirated games, then there is no install script and you do have to do yourself the whole process of figuring out which DLLs are missing and configure them in Wine using Winetricks (curiously, I ended up having to install a pirated game because the Steam version did not at all work, and the pirated version works fine). Note, however, that since I don’t do multiplayer games anymore, I haven’t had problems with kernel-level anti-cheat not working with Linux.
  • Interestingly, for gaming you have safety possibilities in Linux which you don’t in Windows: all my games launched via Lutris are wrapped in a firejail sandbox with a number of enhanced security restrictions and networking limited to only localhost, so there is no “phone home” for the games running via that launcher (Steam, on the other hand, is a different situation).

I still have the old Windows install in that machine, but I haven’t booted into it for many months now.

Compared to the old days (even as recently as a decade ago), nowadays there is way less need for tweaking in Linux in general and for gaming, even Windows games generally just install and run as long as you use some kind launcher which has game-specific install scripts (such as Steam and Lutries), but if you go out of the mainstream (obscure old games, pirated stuff) then you have to learn all about tweaking Wine to run the games.

If you have a desktop and the space to install the hardware, just get a 256GB SSD (which are pretty cheap) and install a gaming-oriented Linux distro (such as Pop!OS or Bazzite) there, separate from Windows and you can dual boot them using your BIOS as boot manager: since the advent of EFI, booting doesn’t go through a boot sector shared by multiple OSs anymore, so if you install each in their own drive then they don’t even see each other (you can still explicitly mount the Windows partitions in Linux from the Files app to access them, but otherwise they have no impact whatsever on booting and running Linux) and only the BIOS is aware of the multiple bootable OSs and you can get it to pop up a menu on boot (generally by pressing F8) to change which one you want to boot.

For the 20 or 30 bucks of a 256GB SSD it’s worth the try and if you’re comfortable with it you can later do as I did and add another bigger one just for the directory with you games (or your home directory, though granted to migrate your home like this you do have to use the CLI ;))

SplashJackson, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Why need upgrade at all? I’ve never needed “support” before

zewm,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

I hope this is a sarcastic joke.

If it’s not, support means updates. More importantly security updates.

There is a reason you don’t put a windows XP machine on the internet.

chaogomu,

XP might actually be somewhat safe to connect by now. Most of the viruses and worms have updated past it by now.

GoodLuckToFriends,

Noooooo. There was an article in the last 6 months about someone connecting a windows xp to the internet just to see what happened, and within 10 minutes it had been scanned and infected. They repeated the experiment several times.

It’s child’s play (like, literally script kiddie level) to run automated scans and if a vulnerability, like a really old operating system, is found to then attack it.

chaogomu,

Well, security through obscurity never really did work

Trainguyrom,

The “support” most importantly includes security updates. You better bet every hacking group has been working at finding fresh zero days for Windows 10 and is stockpiling them to start hammering any PCs that can’t be upgraded this October

REDACTED,

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong, but didn’t MS push important security updates to Win7 even after end of support?

SkaveRat,

They are doing that only for paying users for 10

…microsoft.com/…/windows-10-supports-ends-on-octo…

Danitos,

That was an exceptional case, I think with the WannaCry malware. Not something they’ll regularly do.

Atmoro,

Think of it this way:

Would you rather leave door wide open and signs saying come inside and take all the info about me, along with all my moment

Or

Have your data, & money protected in all kinds of defense systems so it makes billions times harder to take all of that

That’s what security updates are for. Same for other apps as well when they find things bad actors will try to exploit

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

In fairness, after October that security system will still be in place. The difference is that as soon as attackers finds a bypass, the security system will be worthless against future threats

sevan,

I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some exploits that have already been discovered that people have been sitting on in anticipation of support ending soon.

tsuzuku, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I don’t care to much about steam at the moment so no real problem. But I will make the switch to linux on the machine used for gaming. No Win 11 there probably, some Arch-related, EndeavourOS is my actual choice.

SolidShake, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Make the jump to Linux and loose 90% of the games you play as well. If all you play is steam games and don’t care about many that can’t be played then sure. I get the appeal. But windows 11 is the same thing as 10.

y0kai,

90%?

Do you only play games with kernel level anti-cheat? Because those are literally the only games i haven’t been able to play, and fortunately for me I don’t want to play those games.

SolidShake,

I play many kinds of games. Using a Windows emulator in Linux doesn’t count as “running on Linux”

y0kai,

Lol what

DesolateMood,

Ha, get a load of this guy, he thinks wine is an emulator!

Link,

You should look up what Wine stands for.

DrSteveBrule,

If the game plays on your linux distro who cares what you call it?

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Wine sometimes gains performace over windows though, so why do you care?

TimeSquirrel,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

loose 90% of the games you play as well

It's 2025, not 2007. This is a huge exaggeration. Maybe try it again sometime.

SolidShake,

I might when the DAWs I use will work natively.

Random123,

Yeah you definitely didn’t play on Linux for more than 5 minutes

SolidShake,

I use DAWs, havent had luck with wine not crashing games. So yes. You MUST be right, haven’t used Linux at all actually. Just saw a word document about it. God you people are the worst

kittenzrulz123,

Pretty much, 1% of games don’t work on Linux and its the top 1% most popular games

SolidShake,

My problem is 100% of the DAWs I use don’t work on Linux

kittenzrulz123,

Yeah, sometimes there are software that just won’t have a Linux version. Thats to be expected because Linux isnt a Windows clone so itll never run all Windows software. If that software is important to you I would reccomend just installing Windows 11.

AkatsukiLevi, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

Mindustry It goes from a tower defense game to a logistics game for me Forget enemies, How can I haul the most amount of shit down data pipelines without letting a single container hold items for too long? My worlds are just a absolute mess of conveyor belts going everywhere, transport drones coming and going, items being produced, used, machined and consumed everywhere And the only purpose is to give me more endpoints to grow it

Elevator7009,

I gave Mindustry a shot and faded out at the tower defense bit of the tutorial. I do like !automationgames even though tower defense is not my thing, so I’m wondering: how do you manage to forget enemies and just make it a logistics game?

AceFuzzLord,

Not AkatsukiLevi, but probably just finish the enemy waves/bases as fast as possible, followed by tearing everything down and rebuilding for maximum efficiency since you can always leave and come back without ever having to worry about enemies after clearing a level*.

*assuming there isn’t a feature where enemies can respawn and retake levels that I haven’t reached far enough to find exists

AkatsukiLevi,
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, custom game. Edit a existing map to have 0 waves and you’re Gucci In campaign tho, I have found there’s a few commands you can use to instantly conquer a map. It’s cheating, but it let’s me focus on what I want

stormdahl, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’ve been on 11 since before it was officially released. Honestly never had any issues with it, but I’m interested in hearing what sort of issues anyone else might have had? Are we talking about privacy concerns, bugs or performance issues?

solarvector,

Privacy, UI/UX, admin controls, ads, pop ups or notifications, nagging about online services, AI, forced account creation, not working with older hardware.

stormdahl,

I mostly just use my PC for video games, movies and music production, so that hasn’t really affected me.

Regarding UI I think it’s been horrible since Windows 8. I really miss 7!

GreyEyedGhost,

I have a Win11 laptop for work, and they changed the Start menu. Now it’s recent apps and recommendations for your starting point, and you have to click an option to see installed apps. Every. Time. There is a setting with 3 options - more recently used apps, more recommendations, or an even split of both, but the option to go straight to installed apps is mysteriously missing…

I will never install Win11 directly onto my hardware. If I have to use it, it will go into a VM of one flavor or another.

Denjin, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?

The original crackdown, the only movable object that was completely indestructible were the big yellow skips (don’t know what Americans call them).

Would play in coop with one character fixed in a spot to stop them despawning and see how many I could gather from around the map and bring back. You could only carry them in your arms preventing you from driving and climbing the taller buildings, forcing you into unconventional routes through the city, often while being shot. Think I got about 20 as my record before having to sign off.

morphballganon,

(don’t know what Americans call them)

This is such a bizarre thing to say. Why does your mind go to Americans, especially if you aren’t one? How do you know we don’t call them that too? (We don’t, but how did you know that?)

Denjin,

Because most of the people you interact with online, in English, tend to be Americans, so it often helps to clarify your point in terms that are more familiar with Americans to save confusion. I’ve been completely misinterpreted in the past by talking about pants (meaning underpants) where my audience thought I was talking about pants (meaning trousers).

And as if to prove my point, there is in fact a different word, though it seems a more generic term than the rather specific British English skip, that is dumpster.

Elevator7009, (edited )

were the big yellow skips (don’t know what Americans call them)

American here! I was reading your first comment, and I was mildly curious what a “skip” is. I guessed “school bus” and oh wow was I wrong. But hey, still a (probably?) public-funded vehicle that’s bigger than a normal car and thus something my 5-year old self thought would be fun to drive.

Differences in uses of the English language in primarily English-speaking countries are always fun, I 100% agree with your point about clarifying. Thanks for explaining nicely to the person above :) I’ve seen a glut of people just being nasty on Lemmy recently so I’m especially happy to see people interacting civilly when some would have gone on an insult spree.

NostraDavid,
@NostraDavid@programming.dev avatar

big yellow skips

A trash container? I’m neither Bri’ish, or 'Murican, so I have no idea 😂

Denjin,

Dumpster apparently

vxx, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?

Battlefield One

I don’t play it anymore, but when I did with a friend, I broke the healer mechanic.

I always stayed with my friend and our team, and instead of a weapon I was carrying a syringe.

In a Match I ressurected up to 70 people, making us pretty much an undying army.

I would always top the leader Board in any game Mode.

A couple months in I saw copycats, but nobody came close to my insanity.

The next Iterations of the game sucked for me because they nerfed the mechanic extremely.

NostraDavid,
@NostraDavid@programming.dev avatar

I think I’ve seen a video showcasing this tactic. Dude with a Syringe just running around, picking up his teammates as soon as they downed. It was great :D

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Red Dead Online is almost always my go to Fishing Game with friends. It just does the fishing aspect really well. Bonus points when the camp is setup near a river or pond

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