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stargazingpenguin, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 25th

I’ve been playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance again. It’s just a great world to just ride around and do things in for a few hours. They unfortunately had to delay the sequel until the beginning of next year, so I’ve got to wait a little longer before I can do the same in the new one!

BReel, do games w It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation

I’m stoked about Deadlock. I used to play Super Monday Night Combat constantly, until it shut down.

I’ve been waiting like 10 years to get a decent game that fills that void, and Deadlock seems to finally be it! I personally couldn’t be happier with their choice hah.

StuffYouFear,

Glad I’m not the only one who thought of that game when I heard of deadlock

Virkkunen, do games w It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation
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"An overwatch looking moba shooter"

No, it plays like Battleborn and Monday Night Combat, a third person shooter with moba elements. It's not overwatch, it's not Dota.

Geth,

The point stands that it’s derivative. I’m convinced Valve can do better.

Virkkunen,
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And isn't everything derivative? What's the issue with that? If feel like you're really trying to gather negativity towards this game simply because it doesn't pander to your tastes

Geth,

Well, I guess your are right that everything is derivative. I also think some things are more alike than others and also some markets are more saturated than others. When Half-Life came out it was in a saturated market of FPSs but it also revolutionized the market. When Portal came out no one could compare it to anything other that a student project. Half-Life Alyx is still considered the no 1 most polished and complete game in the VR space. We’ll see the impact that Deadlock will have I guess.

MentalEdge,
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Even if it is, it’s a derivation I’ve been sorely missing. Ever since Battleborn got shut down, there’s been a Battleborn shaped hole in my heart. Deadlock fits in that hole really well.

It’s possible that the whole impetus for creating Deadlock came from something like that. Someone at valve, like me, enjoyed the hell out this particular mix of mechanics.

There’s nothing like it. Dota doesn’t do the trick, neither does Overwatch. Of all things, the closest thing might be Titanfall 2’s titan combat.

jacksilver,

Did you ever try Paladins? I somehow ended up playing Battleborn when it came out and really liked it, even though it got panned. Always thought Paladins was a close second.

MentalEdge,
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No. Some also like Gigantic, but they never appealed to me enough to try em.

I was in the Battleborn beta, and had such a blast I absolutely had to keep playing, so I bought it day one.

I was really sad to see it be loved by those that played it, and hated as an “Overwatch clone” by everyone else.

KombatWombat,

Gigantic: Rampage Edition is free to claim on Epic Games this week, so if you might be interested in the future, it would be worth grabbing now.

Carighan,
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Also calling Overwatch a “MOBA shooter” is like calling Mario Kart a “Rogue like racer” because you start each race fresh with everything reset. It’s just an FPS, nothing MOBA about it.

Daedskin,

I personally think MOBA should be used to broadly describe a style of game rather than what’s done while playing it. I know that when Riot coined the term, they were referring to games like DotA, LoL, etc.; to me the whole approach to a match’s flow is echoed similarly enough throughout multiple games, that applying the term MOBA to other games is a logical extension.

To me a game is a MOBA if:

  • The way to interact with it is primarily designed around playing with other players online (the M and O of MOBA.)
  • The goals of the players are against the goals of other players — ie. it’s competitive rather than cooperative (the B of MOBA.)
  • Any player at the beginning of a match has access to all the same options as any other player. This one is a little more vague, but as the A in MOBA stands for arena, I imagine it like a group of gladiators standing before a communal weapon rack that they’ll all pick from; no one has any options that the others don’t have access to.

Following these criteria, something like Overwatch is a MOBA, as is DotA, and ironically LoL isn’t as you have to unlock options meaning you don’t satisfy the arena condition. To differentiate games like DotA, Smite, Awesomenauts, Deadlock, etc., I prefer the term lane-pusher as that’s a lot more specific and understandable.

Does it really matter what it’s called? Not really. I mostly just do it so I can feel superior to Riot for coming up with a vague term that is applied, how I deem, incorrectly, while also excluding their own game from the term that they made to describe it.

bigboig,

I think they’re calling deadlock a moba, not overwatch

domi,
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Monday Night Combat

Well, that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.

iorale,

I think the same 5 people are still playing it.

Sadly I can’t say the same of Super Monday Night Combat, damn non-community servers.

iorale,

I’ve been looking for a game that fills the void left exactly by Super Monday Night Combat, so for me… This might be it (altough i’ll miss the style).
Haven’t played it yet because I don’t have an invite, but I’m carefully hyped by it.

I_Has_A_Hat,

I don’t get how everyone keeps comparing it to those games when Smite exists and it’s damn near identical?!

Virkkunen,
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Because it's not identical. SMITE plays like the top down mobas but in a third person perspective. Deadlock plays like a third person shooter with moba elements.

bigboig,

I think they’re comparing it visually to overwatch

fenrasulfr, do games w It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation
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Weren’t there just credible leaks on a sequel to Half Life Alyx that may or may not be Half Life 3.

chaogomu,

There was a write up from one of the writers who worked on the series.

This was written after he and most of the team left Valve.

wizzim, do games w It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation

+100, my feelings exactly.

I am now 45. I tried Deadlock, was overwhelmed, some other player told me to “fuck off” through the vocal chat because I was in the wrong lane, I uninstalled.

Generally, I don’t have time anymore to play online games that are about grind and skill. I don’t want to play only one sort of game. I want a game with an end so that I can move to another one.

MOBAs were cool at the time of warcraft 3. Let’s move on.

Random123,

If youre looking for a game with an end then you might wanna stick to single player. Online multiplayer is designed to keep players coming back for more

ramirezmike,

MOBAs were cool at the time of warcraft 3. Let’s move on.

What kind of statement is this? MOBAs are still insanely popular. And “move on”? as if there’s no reason to iterate or improve on a genre?

I don’t even play MOBAs but I’ve heard this same sentiment on arena shooters and it makes as much sense there as it does here.

wizzim,

Yeah you’re right. This statement was intended for me.

Everyone can of course play what they want.

Katrisia,

Let’s move on.

I enjoy MOBAs a lot, but their communities tend to be so toxic… I’m playing other multiplayer games because I am tired of the toxicity (among other things).

NOOBMASTER,

All online games will have a certain amount of toxic players there. No exceptions.

sickhack,

Valve’s last two releases were Half Life Alyx and Aperture Desk Job. Both are single player games.

Aperture Desk Job even runs on Linux and Steam Deck.

missingno, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 25th
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Under Night In-Birth II [Sys:Celes] - I WON A FIVE MAN BRACKET WOOOOO Also played some Skullgirls casuals for a little while after the bracket ended.

Mahjong Soul/Riichi City/IRL mahjong - Ever since Balatro blew up, people have been joking about when we're gonna see the mahjong roguelike next. Then four different ones went into development. Then Mahjong Soul surprised dropped a fifth one as a limited time event, and it might be the most promising of all of them. Then I broke the hell out of it.

Splatoon 3 - Team practice. Don't have any cool clips to share rn, maybe next week.

CharlesReed, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 25th
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I've technically completed out the season in Diablo 4: Season 5, but I've decided to see if I could go for a completionist run and get every objective. I'm thinking about remaking a couple of my other characters in different classes, since I finished so quickly, but that depends on how motivated I'm going to be once I'm satisfied with the state of my current Necromancer.

Still crawling around in Alien: Isolation. I'm kind of stuck in one section because the androids keep killing me, but I don't have enough ammo or items to fight all of them. I've reverted to running around them and hoping they eventually give up following me, but since I don't have a map and it's been a while since the last time I played, I'm not sure where exactly to run to. I might have to give up and look up a walk through so I can get through this area.

Faydaikin, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 25th
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Gearing up for a swing at The Sinking City.

CharlesReed,
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I approve. It's a pretty decent game imo.

CharlesReed, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?
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I really want a Condemned 3 that wraps up Ethan vs SKX. They never got a proper final face-off in 2, and (spoilers) since SKX has joined the Oro and Ethan's unlocked his yelling power or whatever, it would be nice to have that loose end tied up.

lastunusedusername2, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?

Bomberman! 💣💣💣

Katana314, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?

I’d really like to see another time-based drama similar to The Last Express. It had a lot of time-based events where you could run into particular passengers of the train in the hallways, and gained a strong sense of physical “presence” as people pushed past you in the halls using detailed rotoscope animations.

The Invisible Hours comes close - it’s non-interactive, basically letting you play as a ghost cameraman watching the mystery.

Peffse, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?

The first Deception game by Tecmo. A pretty basic game in concept: Invaders come in your castle, you set up traps, lure them into the traps. But- Something about the limiting view of first-person, combined with the poorly lit castle, chilling music, and dark story tone has never been replicated. Add on how you could customize your castle with extra hallways and rooms with special attributes, capture invaders to make your own monsters, or even use masks to change the way invaders react to you… mmm, now I want to play it again.

I tried playing the second, third, and Trapt, but everything after the first game switched to a more action-oriented third person view and started to shy away from the heaven/hell connection.

I wouldn’t mind if it was a game outside the Deception IP. I just want the atmosphere back.

Katana314,

I own Deception 4 on PS4, didn’t know what the original was like. I think there’s a lot of cartoony appeal in luring people into elaborate multi-stage death traps, but it’s tricky to garner appeal out of more than just a lot of animation work for each variety of trap.

executivechimp, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?
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Half Life

Lost_My_Mind, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?

Cyberstadium Series: Basewars.

Sure, it was only 1 game, so maybe not a series, but as the name suggests, it was meant to be a series.

bravesentry, do gaming w Android games for girls?

Not a game per se but if she plays music, Ear Cat and Rhythm Cat could be something.

muzzle,

Thank you! I found ear cat, but not rhythm cat, do you have a link?

bravesentry,

Ah, sorry, my memory tricked me there. I meant play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.demax.rh… this one and thought it also was by the ear cat developers. Good app, but nowhere near as cute.

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