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shneancy, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

gamers, unironically, rise up. this isn’t going to end on niche porn games

Mk23simp,

Since this is caused by activist pressure on the payment processors, perhaps a grassroots activist campaign of our own could change their mind. Especially if we threaten to stop using their services in favor of any competitor that allows all legal purchases.

Katana314,

Hopefully you’re referring to Visa/Paypal, not Itch.

One place that comes to mind is Verotel. I barely know them, but supposedly one of their star attributes is their use for adult businesses. Likely someone else knows them better.

pupbiru, (edited )

visa have similar restrictions… the issue is that payment processor, merchant, card network, issuing bank, and acquiring bank (and a few more) are all different layers to facilitating a transaction… there are very few card networks in the world, and essentially people pay online using mostly either just visa or mastercard

technically you could probably run a site that only accepts amex, diners club, jcb, discover, etc but it really wouldn’t go well: people want to whip out their card (often their only method of online payment) and just pay and go

you’d also need to find a payment processor that would be comfortable taking on the risk of facilitating transactions around mastercard and visa… they might just cut them off from access to their network. sounds like extortion? yeah welcome to the world of banking, where in any other industry it’d be called a cartel

making things even more difficult is that by law in the US payment processors must offer at least 3 (i think? it might be 2?) “routes” (these things aren’t always straight forward - sometimes there are multiple card networks involved), so you probably have to have a pretty mature payment processor because they’d have to accept several of the alternative card networks

oh and you have to push various stats to the federal reserve which is a massive back and forth bureaucratic challenge even above the technical challenge of interfacing with some pretty awful systems. it often takes over a year to get things sorted unless you’re a “too big to fail” type customer

there are a buuuuunch of other spanners that get thrown into the works, but i’m not sure where the NDA line hits so i’m gonna just leave it there and say trust me, payment processing (distinct from payment gateway) is an absolute nightmare mess

Cocodapuf, (edited )

I’m not sure that works, like on a purely game theory level. If gamers start to apply pressure, threaten to stop buying games, the stores need to make a choice:

A. Risk facing the wrath of the gamers, sales are likely to drop. Possibly by a lot, perhaps 15-20%. That could keep up for months before stabilizing.

B. Risk facing the wrath of the payment processors, credit card sales will stop immediately, only alternative payment types get through. Sales drop by 80% overnight, over time some users will seek alternative payment methods, possibly resulting in only 50% less revenue than expected…

While both of those options are bad, one of them is totally fatal to their business.

Those numbers are of course only speculation, but that’s my best guess.

Mk23simp,

I meant pressing the payment processors, like those prude activists are.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

I find it offensive that the only effective way to combat this is to fight fire with fire and also make a big bitchy noise about this like the conservatives love to do. I have better things I would rather be doing with my life. But such are the times we live in I suppose.

Mk23simp,

In the short term, I think that collectively being Karens about it would be able to reverse the pressure, by steering the monopolists away from oppressing us. Because they are mainly motivated by money.

In the long term, take away their monopoly power.

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Any games with even mild nudity is next (like Nier)

ssroxnak,

Yep, then lgbtq games, then games with guns, then games with blood, so on and so on

XeroxCool,

Are you sure gun and violence culture is on the chopping block? In the American market?

hibsen,

It absolutely is. We only encourage gun and violence culture in real life, especially by authoritarian figures and their representatives. Allowing such in virtual spaces where no one can actually be hurt or killed runs counter to our patriotic ideals.

ssroxnak,

The big payment processors won’t let you buy firearm parts

troglodyke,
@troglodyke@lemmy.federate.cc avatar

It absolutely is, it’s naive to think these puritans will just decide to stop here

Xande,

GUNS are you nuts… Murican “morale” apostles might have infuenced the media worldwide, but if you take away guns… you lose Murica!

ssroxnak,

Collective Shout is Australian.

Xande,

Doesn’t matter… No guns… Murican outcry! 😁

Or they mope about you not wanting their “culture” and offer to bring their democrazy…

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

Activision, EA, Ubisoft, etc. would never let that happen.

DeLacue,

It’s already expanded. It started as going after “rape and incest” but now it’s all adult games. But a bunch of lgbtq games have already gotten hit. I am beyond furious.

Gloomy,
@Gloomy@mander.xyz avatar

Shit. Would you provide a source please?

shneancy,

i don’t know if any source has caught up yet, but a few days ago it was indeed just taboo kink games that were being targeted, now it seems all of itch.ios NSFW games are disappearing

RandomVideos,

Isnt that addressed in the post?

NikkiDimes, (edited )

I think all games being hit is a temporary measure while they get some sort of new process in place. We’ll see where things land.

Either way, card processing companies shouldn’t be dictating what kind of art consumers can consume, even if I don’t personally agree with the content of some of the worst offenders. If it’s not outright illegal, they can fuck off.

chunes,

You’re being too gracious. These companies could have given itch.io enough time to classify the games properly, but they didn’t.

NikkiDimes,

Oh for sure, fuck these companies. I’m just saying don’t take it out on Itch.io and their current scorched earth approach, their hands are tied.

belluck,

Here’s one example I came across on Bluesky

belluck,

Direct link to the game because the creator restricted who can view their posts on Bsky. Only viewable via a link or from their profile now, searching the name only returns a bunch of other dress-up games, but not this one, presumably because of the „Transgender“ tag.

Gloomy,
@Gloomy@mander.xyz avatar

Thanks for the context. Might have been caught up in the crossfire, but very worrying indeed.

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

It’s gonna stop once they hit a category that includes big AAA games. Once they start cutting into the revenue of Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed the big developers should take a stance.

Baylahoo,

I’ve already seen a pretty big YouTuber cover that they are targeting GTA 6 now. It was either moistcritical or mudahar

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org avatar

How do I tell politely in a letter to MasterCard, that if I want to buy a horse dildo it's only MY fucking business?

shneancy,

buy a horse dildo with bitcoin and flaunt how they didn’t get any money from your transaction? idk man, i’m good at vague ideas, specifics are harder

Mustakrakish,

Neighbors being kidnapped: I sleep

Taking my fetish games: Real Shit

shneancy,

most of the world isn’t american. we can’t do anything about your government

Mustakrakish,

Capitalism is a global problem, its not contained to america. Replace neighbors being kidnapped with which ever country you’re in supporting a genocide and it still fits, and is likely accurate unless you’re like in Yemen.

jordanlund, do games w 'When' this comes out, my life will be complete, lol.
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Afraid I have news for you…

It’s slow. Interminably slow. You think you might be prepared for how slow it is, you are not.

Google “Red Dead Redemption 2 slow” if you doubt this.

Second, the controls absolutely suck. Not sure who decided the same button should be either “talk to NPC” or “shoot NPC right in the goddamned head” but that never should have passed play testing.

Again, Google “Red Dead Redemption 2 controls” if you doubt this.

I LOVED RDR1. Played the hell out of that game, was really looking forward to 2.

Then I had to walk through snow for an hour before anything happened.

Got through that godawful opening sequence, got to a bit where we’re going across a prairie, hear a call for help, ride over to talk to an NPC to see what’s going on and shoot them right in the goddamned head instead, prompting a fugitive run.

That’s when I realized I could re-start the game and try again, or just say “fuck it” and cut my losses. I cut my losses. I’m not going to fight bad game design AND the plot.

mic_check_one_two,

It’s slow

This feels a little bit like eating the peel off of a potato, and stating the entire potato is gross. Maybe you just don’t like the peel. If we judged games purely by their tutorials, Kingdom Hearts 2 was a giant bomb, Fallout 3 was an awful game. Skyrim was wildly unpopular, Metal Gear Solid V wasn’t worth playing at all, The Witcher 3 is a slog, etc…

Yes, the intro is slow. Nobody denies that. Even people who love the game will tell you “just trudge through the first hour until you get to Valentine. The game opens up after that.” You can even find those exact comments on the posts you said to google.

Not sure who decided the same button should be either “talk to NPC” or “shoot NPC right in the goddamned head” but that never should have passed play testing

The controls are actually pretty solid, once you realize exactly how many things they managed to map to a ~16 button controller. Sure, the controls can change depending on what you’re doing. For example, if you’re on a horse, you have different controls than if you’re on foot. But I’m not sure how you managed to shoot someone while trying to talk to them… Because those are, in fact, always two entirely separate buttons. The right trigger/LMB is basically only ever used for shooting. Out of every button you could have picked, you picked the one that is basically hard-mapped to a single action.

The only time the trigger/LMB is used for anything else is when you’re in a menu. But that’s certainly not unique to Red Dead; Games use triggers to change menu tabs all the time.

PerfectDark, do games w Junk Store 2.0 has released
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

I know its silly of me to care about down votes. This is the internet after all, and having thin skin on the internet is just crazy.

But the idea that you’re downvoting me for sharing news just strikes me as…insane. Do you not want me to share news on Lemmy? Do you think I’m the developer? If so did you not read this intro to the piece at all?

Again. Just stupid to care about being down voted, but if you’re one of those who have been, I’d love you to just speak up and explain why?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c0b4ef51-0ca8-4f55-9dfa-58f869a43518.gif

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor,

I think some people use downvotes as a disagree button. They don’t like the idea of paying a sub for a launcher (I too find it stupid but that’s just my opinion) and use the downvote to let the world know instead of commenting or simply ignoring the post.

Don’t take it personally, and please don’t let the downvotes discourage you! Your posts are a breeze of fresh air content in a place where most content is just links to news sites.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

One of them here.

I like = Up
I dislike = Down

What else should it be?

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor,

It might be me, but I don’t use the downvote button as a disagree button. I reserve it for content that’s actually negative, such as spam, ai slop, insults/bigotry… If iI had to downvote every piece of content I don’t like/disagree with in lemmy, I’d pass most of my time here downvoting. You can just ignore what you disagree with.

wizardbeard, (edited )

I don’t like subscription based software, and a subscription based game launcher is even more ridiculous. Especially when there are already free open source alternatives.

With the subscription aspect in mind, this reads to me like an advertisement rather than news. Probably because you just pasted in their literal ad copy instead of giving us any of your own thoughts about it whatsoever.

A big part of why I’m on lemmy is to get away from the “natural engagement” ad posts, so in short this sort of post isn’t something I want to welcome or encourage.

Personally, this post would have come across a lot differently if it was just the link to their site/blog post and even a few sentences about your personal thoughts on it. This comes across as a poorly done ad.

You didn’t “just share news”. You just shared an ad with effectively no further context.

mintiefresh,
@mintiefresh@piefed.ca avatar

Thank you for sharing. I gave it an upvote because I do care about posts and it was informative.

I disagree with the product though and wouldn't get it because I don't want another subscription. I guess people are down voting because they disagree with the Junk Store 2.0 itself.

Anyhow. Please continue to post. It's important for growing these communities and try not to let the downvotes discourage you.

Railcar8095,

What should be your logic to upvote or downvote? Mostly because you’re the one asking on the first place.

daniskarma,

Because it reads more like advertisement of a paid product than news.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yep.

Get it here

What is Junk Store 2.0?

Junk Store 2.0 is a fully extensible game launcher designed to help you easily install and manage games from platforms like Epic, GOG, Amazon, and more — all without the hassle of complex workarounds. It’s faster, more stable, and includes a ton of new features to enhance your experience on the Steam Deck.

So much advertisement it reeks of hypocrisy.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

But the idea that you’re downvoting me for sharing news just strikes me as…insane. Do you not want me to share news on Lemmy?

You are not being downvoted

The content is. If it is downvoted it will be buried, less people will see it, and they’ll find less subscribers thus earn less money

PMmeTrebuchets,

Because this is an ad?

GrantUsEyes, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

Is this the remake/ remastered version? Insane how good the landscape looks!

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

It is the remake! It does look really good. I haven’t played the PS3 original but judging but Naughty Dog’s similar output for the time i wouldn’t at all be surprised if it look stellar too

Abraxas, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

omfg i fucking love TLOU, i completed it last month for the first time and it’s become one of my all time favourite video games, it’s a fucking masterpiece.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I just completed it today, and i’m planning to go back and complete left behind tomorrow. I’m also thinking about trying to 100% it since it’s not too much of a challenge and it’s got some unique criteria i’d love to try and do. I’m not ready to let this game go lol

who, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

This game took mediocre gameplay on rails, and through a great storyline and acting, created something outstanding. I wish I could play it for the first time again. The sequel doesn’t even come close, IMHO.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a sucker for the Game play, but i can definitely see how it can be considered mediocre. You are right though, the story line and acting are really were the game shines

Allero, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

Iirc, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided can be completed as a pacifist - and you get an achievement for that.

Poopfeast420, (edited ) do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of July 27th
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I’ve been playing The First Berserker: Khazan. I’m maybe two-thirds through the game and generally have a good time. It’s basically Nioh with the faster paced combat, loot and mission based level format. For the first two regions, I mainly used the Spear, but recently have switched to the Greatsword. The monster bosses are fine, but some of the human bosses can be extremely infuriating, with how their stamina regenerates so quickly.

Nikls94, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

We should go back to sending the cash per physical mail…

Katana314,

Imagine mail-order catalogs of hentai games on CD-ROM, or even cheap flash drives, in 2025.

Nikls94,

Well if it hurts those companies enough, they’ll ignore that organization (the same that led to pornhub deleting 80% in 2020 and removing sex ed from American schools) that’s the reason for this bullshit in the first place.

Panda, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

I think Disco Elysium might be the game you’re looking for!

tgirlschierke, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

I think your best bet would be looking into the CRPG subgenre, though I can’t name any specific examples of games with pacifist routes.

missingno, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Live a Live's Twilight of Edo Japan chapter gives a special completion reward if you complete it with zero kills, or a full 100 kills. It's designed in such a way that figuring out how to do the pacifist run is a puzzle you are unlikely to solve on your first playthrough.

This mechanic was actually one of the inspirations for Undertale!

nore,

As far as I know this mechanic wasn’t in the original SNES game, only in the remake.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

It is in the original. For the most part, 2022 is very faithful to the original and doesn't feature any big structural changes (apart from one new thing that's a big spoiler), mostly just balance and quality of life improvements.

Like I said, Toby Fox openly cited this segment as an inspiration for Undertale (2015), and that came before the 2022 remake.

NOT_RICK, do games w 'When' this comes out, my life will be complete, lol.
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

But why?

acosmichippo, do games w 'When' this comes out, my life will be complete, lol.
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

what is “ultimate” about it? it never got any DLC did it?

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Comes with some extra single player shit including an exclusive mission or something

If you have a PC just play it on there if you can.

danciestlobster, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

Disco Elysium can totally be pacifist

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