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missingno, do gaming w Shower thought: Valve could do the ultimate boss-move this year
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

What do people expect out of a desktop SteamOS that they can't already get from any other distro?

jmcs,

Brand recognition. Which apparently is the only thing that matters these days.

ddash,

For the average technology user yes. Software needs to come packaged in a way people recognise and can use without much setting up needed. I know there are many distros out there that do this. The average person using a computer however does not.

Dudewitbow,

not going to be a steam OS user, but its less what you can’t, and more that any changes that valve patches in via their efforts on AMD drivers, users would get it first and without any fuss.

One example is HDR support. various distros and DEs kinda sat on HDR for the longest time, with mixed results on implementation. Valve just walks in and implements it.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Yeah but Valve also made that open source at the same time.

Dudewitbow,

and even while open source, its implementation on various DE is still spotty, which is kinda the point.

ClassifiedPancake,

A plug and play system.

tias,

It needs to be at least as easy as Windows to install and have good support.

Extra bonus points if they preinstall/bundle it on gaming PCs.

teawrecks,

Both of these are possible with many other distros.

fmstrat,

Sounds like you just described Bazzite.

judgyweevil,

Easy, streamlined support

BmeBenji,

Approachability. Valve is a recognizable name and the Steam Deck is notoriously usable in the sea of Linux uncertainty.

Before you say “Linux is totally usable, just look at <examples>” the first question people are prompted with is “What distribution do you want to install?” and there is no singular place that says “this is what you want for this specific use case.”

Valve is not the first name in Linux gaming, but they are a known and trusted name. It’s not just about brand recognition but about trusting a name to guide you through something brand new and extremely daunting. For the vast majority of PC gamers, SteamOS offers a guided introduction to something that previously was stereotyped as complex and difficult to learn.

Is it the best distro? Probably not, but then again it’s extremely easy to migrate from SteamOS to something else when someone discovers they want something else. Until they understand enough about Linux to find that they want something else, SteamOS is currently one of the best ways to get them there

Brahvim,
@Brahvim@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Plus, Valve is known for technical things!

Cethin,

Approachability. Valve is a recognizable name and the Steam Deck is notoriously usable in the sea of Linux uncertainty.

It’s very usable for a handheld gaming platform. It really isn’t any better for a desktop platform. The thing that makes it so usable is that you boot it and it boots into Steam Big Picture, and you don’t see the desktop. Most users never will. Is that how people are going to want their desktop to work though? Probably not. They probably don’t want to only use Steam. They probably want to use other applications too.

madame_gaymes, (edited )
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

I don’t think it’s about having extra functionality to no one else has.

SteamOS is more restrictive than other distros out of the box. A user with no experience whatsoever would have a harder time messing things up because rootfs is RO and gets wiped on every update. Kinda forces the average user into using flatpak/Discover to mimic Windows and Apple app stores. In other words, it’s all about the psychology, not the distro itself.

Not to mention there is an actual company with an incentive to maintain the distro, with a massive focus on gaming. They have a ton of testing resources that a lot of distro maintainers do not have in that regard.

Having said all that, installing a distro other SteamOS on my Steam Deck was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. I’ve been using Linux for 32 years, I do not like SteamOS because they are trying to make it dumb for general consumption. Similar reasons why I despise Windows, besides the whole being owned by Microsoft thing.

teawrecks,

I would probably use it over bazzite for my HTPC, but yeah, I don’t recommend either for a daily driver PC.

Windex007, do gaming w Can confirm...

I’ve got some cartridge from Ukraine with an SD slot in it. You can load the SD card with every ROM and then play them directly off an N64

This is great because for some reason emulators have problems with Dr. Mario but the N64 runs the ROM just fine

Know_not_Scotty_does,

Krikizz Everdrive! They are awesome on every system I have them for, snes, gbc, gba, and n64. They can be picky about the sd card you use but work flawlessly once you have the right one.

Windex007,

Yeah that’s the one. Guess I was lucywith my SD card pick (can’t remember, maybe got the card with the unit?) but it’s been rock solid since I got it.

Nothing beats playing all the games on original hardware imo!

Gryficowa, do zapytajszmer w Wy też krindżujecie jak ktoś powie "strona demokratyczna" mając na myśli obecną koalicję rządzącą?
@Gryficowa@szmer.info avatar

Przecież jeszcze wyborów nie było (Dopiero 18-tego)

ramenshaman, do gaming w Can confirm...

Hey come on now.

Blaster_M, do gaming w Can confirm...
samus12345,
Goretantath, do gaming w Can confirm...

I forget which nintendo console it is, but emulating’s actually MORE accurate than the console since some ceramic thing is degrading in it. I think its the NES but don’t quote me on it. Was one of the reasons TAS verification was failing on actual hardware when it had previously passed.

f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4,

SNES. The sound chip slightly degrades, and since the CPU waits to sync with it, the overall timing of the system is affected.

SirDankbud, do gaming w Can confirm...

Can’t confirm. Still have a working NES, SNES, and N64 from childhood. Not even 40 yet. My grey hair and wrinkles are still confined to my testicles for the time being.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of May 11th

I finally finished persona 3 reload. I skipped part of the DLC because more dungeons sounded like torture at that point. But otherwise it was great.

I started playing blue prince and then, after a few hours, realized the name was a play on words for blueprints. Doh. It’s been interesting. I am kind of getting a bit tired of the RNG of filling out the house, but I’m getting enough progress made to keep me going.

I’ve also been playing the oblivion remake, and it’s been a lot of fun! It’s like the ratatouille meme while playing. It’s nice. Oddly cozy

wheeldawg, do gaming w Can confirm...

Wait I’ve never been 2 pictures in the same meme of this type before

SplashJackson, do gaming w Can confirm...

Yes but HDMI on N64 pls

ragebutt,

There are hdmi mods for basically all pre hdmi consoles including n64 but they tend to be fairly pricey

N64 has pixelfx retrogem which has 2 models for 100 and 190 dollars, the more expensive model has 4k and additional scalers, the cheaper model is 720p

N64advanced v2 is open source, 4k output, and pricing depends on the group buy you can get in, 150-250

Highspeedido is on AliExpress, 720p output, and is 40-50

There’s also a few that aren’t sold anymore that you can sometimes find on ebay for $$$

ShinkanTrain, do gaming w Can confirm...
Katana314, do gaming w Can confirm...

My current solution is checking Switch games out of the library.

paraphrand, do gaming w Can confirm...

Buy ~25 games new when they come out for the N64. Amortize that out over the next 25-30 years. Thus spending $50 a year playing N64 games.

Is this how accounting works?

dual_sport_dork, do gaming w Can confirm...
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Panel 3, that’s me right there.

Yes, I have several working controllers. Including a couple of spares, unused, still sealed.

PaintedSnail,

Lucky. I have my PS3, and I’m having a horrible time finding decent replacement controllers. You can’t use the new DualShocks, and compatible controllers you can buy are built so cheaply they don’t work very well.

cRazi_man, do gaming w Can confirm...

For anyone who hasn’t discovered it yet…emulation is so great.

I got a little emulation console for £120 (Retroid Pocket 4 pro, see my post history) 2 months ago and haven’t touched my Steam Deck or gaming PC since. Highly recommended.

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