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StarvingMartist, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away

I have it but I would love a key for my fiancée to play with me, we can finally be warring couples with Abigail and Sebastian

Taser,

Give it to this guy. It’s a great reason.

But if you don’t, I wouldn’t mind giving it a try for a few (read: 200) hours 😛

c24w, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away
@c24w@lemmy.world avatar

I’m afraid of commitment.

danekrae, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

Who is this, and why is she so sad?

dumbass,
@dumbass@quokk.au avatar
tja,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

Misgendering people is not funny.

danekrae,
iAmTheTot,

The difference is that 30 Rock is not doing it to be mean spirited.

victorz,

I think the root comment is just memeing? But I see your point, it’s not funny. (Or it shouldn’t be.)

iAmTheTot,

What does “just memeing” mean here?

kamenlady,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Oh? You’re approaching me?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c0b03102-260e-4833-a3f5-28abc654af68.png

They memed the joke from the show, while i just copied the part from jojo.

I wanted to lure you into revealing your stand.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

No, you don’t understand, misgendering is fine when its someone you don’t like, just like how body shaming is great when its a man.

/s

tja,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

Looking at the upvote/ downvote ratio you might be right

BlackPenguins,

You did not get the 30 Rock quote I see.

StoneyDcrew,

I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.

Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.

The latest one is his take on the “stop killing games” initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the “villain” of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.

This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain. Eventually the momentum carried it over the finish and people are happy that he didn’t get his way.

MolochAlter,

whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate

It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.

SunshineJogger, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?

Caitlyynn,

Trashy twitch streamer with a massive ego problem

BlackPenguins,

Just know he’s someone who wants you to eat his entire ass.

KyuubiNoKitsune, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.

tetris11,

EU one requires an ID/passport, UK one doesn’t – I’d argue that the EU one is safe and the UK one should get more attention on the validitiy

ClamDrinker,

Ross explained it in his last video - there are reasons to be skeptical and unsure if it’s truly there until at least 1.4 mil signatures. And more votes is never bad. So both need more attention. If it reaches people in the EU it will also reach those in the UK.

tetris11,

gotta summary? I don’t wanna watch a vid

ClamDrinker,

There’s always just people that mess up on the form. But they also monitor the sign rate and saw some periods of higher than normal signing in the middle of the night in the EU - indicating someone might have ran a bot to sign with invalid information. The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed, so they need a safe margin where even with a significant amount of invalid signatures, they still make it. Afaik 1.2 mil is about what they would expect for a normal vote of this size to be safe, and 1.4 mil is basically more than enough to compensate for any bad actors.

tetris11,

The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed

Ah, makes sense - thanks for this

Ksin,
@Ksin@lemmy.world avatar

The type of verification depends on the country and some don’t have any verification at signing. I’m Swedish and when I signed I just filled out a form, no checks of any kind.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

Time for the EU to adopt FrejaID

Opisek,

EU is actively working on the EU Wallet and certain sources tell me it is getting there.

TwinTitans, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

Guys a fucking loser. Needs to get a real job.

JargonWagon,

He’s had quite a few “real jobs” lol

kadaverin0,

He’ll gladly tell you about how he was hacker/dev whizkid at Blizzard for 7 years. Of course, he’ll leave out the fact that he was only a QA tester and a web security drone who got the job because his father is a big wig there.

TheEighthDoctor,

Don’t you know he worked for Blizzard /s

TwinTitans,
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

Ahh. Starting to see how that company fell to shit now 😂

oji, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

I actually own

The funny thing is, you don’t own them.

atomicpoet,

Say what you will, every game I’ve bought—I can still play. And I’ve been buying Steam games for over a decade.

Meanwhile, none of my GameCube discs work on my Switch.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

You can still play it but increasingly games are becoming very different from what you bought.

I’ve started noticing a disturbing trend. More and more games that are older being sold at steep discounts or “free to play” and simultaneously jampacked with invasive telemetry and/or ads/microtransactions. And since Steam won’t let you play older versions, those games are effectively dead.

atomicpoet,

Out of the thousands of games I have, not once have I noticed anything like you describe.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Oh well if you haven’t experienced it, it must not exist then 🤷

atomicpoet,

I mean, if it’s a trend, you’d think I would have noticed it by now.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

And I suppose my experience doesn’t count? Or you think I’m making this up?

atomicpoet,

I don’t know, you haven’t pointed out multiple examples.

Hadriscus,

hmmm that doesn’t ring a bell here either. Which games do this ?

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

The most recent ones I’ve noticed are Riders Republic and Borderlands 2. Helldivers also introduced a bunch of new microtransactions years after it’s launch.

Dyskolos,

And what there is steam’s doing? Borderland’s a greedy IP from a greedy company. What do you expect?

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

And since Steam won’t let you play older versions, those games are effectively dead.

Dyskolos,

So it’s the fault of the delivery-device? Why didn’t you make a backup of an older version just in case? Besides, last time I checked, you can. With a bit more hassle. All not the case for a “live” online-game. Which borderlands wants to be.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

So it’s the fault of the delivery-device?

…yeah? Of course it is.

Why didn’t you make a backup of an older version just in case?

I pay Steam to do that.

Besides, last time I checked, you can. With a bit more hassle.

Not interested.

All not the case for a “live” online-game. Which borderlands wants to be.

That’s exactly the problem.

Dyskolos,

If BL is “exactly the problem”. And GOG does it better. Why is it still steam’s fault? Use GOG then? Where is it the delivery-device’s fault? As BL2 offers online-coop, and is also the major selling point of that game, a fragmented market is impossible.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Why would you think another company doing it better makes Valve not responsible? I don’t understand the logic.

As BL2 offers online-coop, and is also the major selling point of that game, a fragmented market is impossible.

…no? It’s not. You don’t have to play it online.

Dyskolos,

It doesn’t matter if you prefer offline or not or that you CAN play solo, it is online coop. I never played it coop either, but that’s what it is and hence everyone has to have the same version. Simple as that.

Point with gog was that they do it better. Vastly so. Yet only a tiny fraction of devs choose them. Hence it begs the question whether it’s the platform’s fault per se.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

It doesn’t matter if you prefer offline or not or that you CAN play solo, it is online coop.

Of course it does?

Hence it begs the question whether it’s the platform’s fault per se.

There is no question. GOG is proof that you can do it. Therefore if others don’t do it, it’s their fault.

Once again, all of this is beside the point. The point is that those games are effectively gone.

Dyskolos,

It only matters in the sense that you’re allowed to not purchase online games.

Otherwise we’re circling here.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

It only matters in the sense that you’re allowed to not purchase online games.

Virtually every game in existence has some sort of online element. But what you seem to be unable to grasp is that many of them have single player modes that don’t require any internet connection.

It’s as simple has having a server that checks the version of the game installed before allowing access to online services.

Dyskolos,

Oh wow, thanks for making me understand games and how software works. If only I knew earlier…

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

No problem 👍

Hadriscus,

I have to say I never played those. Do these microtransactions lock content that was previously available out of the box?

Dyskolos,

That is what firewalls and sinkholes are for. Stupid telemetry.

Yet I never noticed such a “trend” in direct combination with steam. The whole industry goes to shit, but it’s not steam’s fault.

Ulrich, (edited )
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

That is what firewalls and sinkholes are for. Stupid telemetry.

That shouldn’t be necessary and is beside the point.

The whole industry goes to shit, but it’s not steam’s fault.

  1. Steam has the clout to fight back against this
  2. As I already mentioned, it is partially because they don’t allow you to run older versions of games.
skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

[…] because they don’t allow you to run older versions of games.

They do if the dev makes it available, I’m looking at four different versions of Terraria in the beta menu right now that stretch back four major versions. I’m pretty sure a couple games in my library somewhere have their entire update history in there, though I can’t think of one to name off the top of my head right now, that’s not a feature I use very often. [Edit: Rift Wizard is one that does precisely this, I knew I had at least one in here]

This is not true of all games, but it could be, either directly by game devs without Valve even having to care, or via pressure by Valve by just making older versions available whether the devs want it or not. I think the latter option is probably the better move, but there’s technically nothing stopping the former other than the game devs themselves.

There’s also a valid argument that making downpatching very easy would be a huge boon to piracy. This is a reasonable talking point no matter which side of that fence you sit on. It would also probably benefit modding as well, which I think is a more objective good but some game developers or more likely publishers would probably disagree.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

They do if the dev makes it available

That shouldn’t be their decision.

I’m looking at four different versions of Terraria

Literally never seen that before. I think I see if the dev pushing their 4th update that day and now I have to wait a half an hour to play the damn game.

downpatching very easy would be a huge boon to piracy.

Not my problem. Guess I’d better just pirate the game instead.

Dyskolos,

Firewalls and especially sinkholes are VERY necessary, far beyond silly game telemetry.

They don’t allow this for a good reason. Imagine 1 million clueless gamers running an older version of their game because they’re too lazy too update. And, of course, then complain about a buggy game and the tech-support will drown even more and review would end up more badly. nothing worse than a fragmented game-world. how should online games work if every Joe and Jane got their “own” favorite version? the average user is a total clueless (pc-wise) person.

Also, you can install an older version. Just with more hassles. Also you could by GUI with many games IF the Dev wants you to be able to. Like a select few versions, if you’d prefer an older state. But, of course, only indie devs do that.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Firewalls and especially sinkholes are VERY necessary

You misread my comment. I didn’t say they weren’t necessary.

Imagine 1 million clueless gamers running an older version of their game because they’re too lazy too update.

  1. GOG already does this and it’s not a problem.
  2. It updates automatically but you can choose to roll it back at any time.

how should online games work if every Joe and Jane got their “own” favorite version?

Not talking about online games. Besides, the how or why do not matter, the point is the games are gone.

Also, you can install an older version. Just with more hassles.

I pay Steam to deal with the hassles. I am not a software engineer.

But, of course, only indie devs do that.

Valve has the power to enforce this system-wide.

Dyskolos,

Gog does it, but Gog only offers a mere fraction of what Steam has. Also your example of BL2 is not on gog either. For that reason.

Sure, Valve could enforce that, but…as said…why? They already offer the option for different versions. If the devs don’t use that, they will have their reasons. The biggest one i mentioned before: Fragmentation and the resulting nightmare of customer-support. On steam’s AND the dev’s side. Look at the Android or Windows-market. Someone complaining “my windows sucks”, but still uses Windows Vista. Or people screaming for support because “my favourite app doesn’t work” and use android 10.

Don’t get me wrong, personally I’d value the freedom of choice. But the vast majority of people are clueless (and still use those devices) and need to be “guided”. Every system gets dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. That’s why apple does so well (besides the “brand”-shit ofc).

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Gog does it, but Gog only offers a mere fraction of what Steam has.

And that matters for the purposes of this conversation why?

Sure, Valve could enforce that, but…as said…why?

I explained why in my first comment. It’s why we’re talking in the first place.

Fragmentation and the resulting nightmare of customer-support. On steam’s AND the dev’s side.

I don’t see it. Neither of them have to support old versions.

But the vast majority of people are clueless (and still use those devices) and need to be “guided”.

No they don’t. If people are clueless, they don’t need to utilize this feature. It’s call an “option”.

Dyskolos,

Just because YOU don’t see why support on both sides hate fragmentation, doesn’t matter. They do nonetheless for very obvious reasons unless you are very alien to tech.

And yes, people do need guidance. If they’re not forced to update, they rarely do. And then they complain shit’s not working. People don’t read manuals, FAQs, guidelines and also they don’t update unless forced to (or strooongly motivated or just nagged to death). I’ve been in this industry for nearly 4 decades now. From all sides. The average Joe or Jane is the worst.

And yeah sure, it doesn’t matter at all for some games. You play the version you want and it’s all fine. But either you offer this option (which steam does BTW, as mentioned before) or you don’t. If you don’t, maaaany devs would be going to use another platform. Maybe fucking EPIC. That’d be grand.

smeg,

FYI if seems you can access older versions of Steam games, it’s just a bit hacky

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

If I want hacky, I’ll go pirate the game. I pay for them so I don’t need a computer science degree to play them.

smeg,

You can still play them on your GameCube or Wii though, or take copies of the discs and play them on anything that runs Dolphin

kadup, (edited )
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

While you’re not wrong, by that logic, it’s actually fairly trivial to take my Steam downloads drive and run it on any computer even without my Steam account.

smeg,

Does that work? I always assumed games with DRM wouldn’t work if they couldn’t authenticate to your Steam account.

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

It works in the same way that dumping your GameCube games and running them on Dolphin works… It’s quick and easy, but it’s against the ToS and requires breaking DRM.

Steam’s DRM is weak, and in some interviews some Valve developers even gave hints that this is on purpose. Many Steam games will simply run without Steam if you just double click the .exe in the install folder, and the vast majority that only rely on Steam’s DRM can be opened by running a free “Steam Emulator” software that pretends to be an active Steam account with a correct license.

sugar_in_your_tea,

A lot of Steam games don’t have any DRM, and most of the rest are pretty easy to strip.

Give it a shot sometime. Completely quit out of Steam, turn off your internet, and try running some of your older Steam games directly from the Steam folder.

I do this somewhat often when my kids are on my other computer playing games on my account and I still want to play something. It’s a little trickier on Linux since you need something to run the Proton/WINE layer, so I mostly stick to Linux-native games in that pretty rare case.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Family share is actually great for this now.

It used to be that if anyone in the group was playing any game it would lock you out of playing anything else on the main account without kicking them off.

But they eased up on it now so you can both play at the same time as long as you aren’t playing the same game at the same time.

So just make a burner account for you or for your kids and family share the library to it and now you don’t even have to go offline unless everyone in the house wants to play BG3 simultaneously.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Really? I haven’t tried that since they revamped the sharing thing. I have three accounts, one for me, my wife, and one my kids share, and they’re all linked. Most of the time my kids use my account, but I can easily change that if it’ll allow simultaneous play (on different games).

Thanks for the tip, I’ll try it out!

Dyskolos,

But the vast majority can be played without steam. Mostly by force coughcough but still. I know, still no legal ownership.

themadcodger, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

It's been on my list, and I like cozy games… I just never got around to it. And I'm cheap, so unless I noticed it on super sale, I'd put it off until later™️

hamsesh, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away

I dunno why I haven’t played it yet! I keep meaning to but never found an excuse to get it. Thanks for doing this giveaway ❤️

BuboScandiacus, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Not participating, since I already own the game on steam. Just wanted to tell you that it’s very nice of you. Have a wonderful day !

jonesy, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.

Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?

mic_check_one_two,

He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.

And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged. It’s not to help with whatever he’s describing; it’s just to keep the viewers engaged, so he keeps making money off of them.

To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.

RazgrizOne, (edited )

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Lfrith, (edited )

To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.

I’m sick of that excuse. The whole I’m dumb or I don’t know or it’s for the algorithm excuses people make to try and deflect criticism. Guess I’ve just seen to many people of prominence use that excuse one to many times over the years.

mic_check_one_two,

It’s playing the game by the rules as written. If the Game Master is upset at a player for using their own rules against them, that’s the GM’s fault. I can’t begrudge a guy manipulating a mega corporation (in this case, manipulating Google/YouTube’s algorithms) for profit. He needs viewer retention to stay at the top of the algorithm, so that’s what he’s doing.

Lfrith,

I’ve just heard so many of the same excuses for even scummier people over the years of always shifting the blame to justify whatever is necessary to get the bag. The excuses seem ever less convincing.

blanket,

I think you’re confusing ‘excuse’ for ‘reason’ here. no one is excusing his behavior, just pointing out that the reason he does it is because the system allows for this kind of behavior. we can see through the veil, but others are being hooked by it because it’s designed to keep you hooked.

it’s the same with other charismatic always online personalities. they’re really good at spinning their bs and people keep eating it up because it sounds good.

Lfrith,

There’s people who will explain why it is done, and use it as an excuse why it is okay because that’s the rules of the game. Seen it way too many times from apologists. Heck the comment I responded to went about how they give this guy credit and can’t blame the guy for doing it.

That goes from explanation to excuses once they started providing an opinion on the behaviour. So that no one is making excuses isn’t right.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is a long-winded way of saying “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”

janonymous,

The viewers aren’t the game masters, though. I honestly wouldn’t want to participate in a game where I have to retain the attention of people without giving them anything of value. I think at some point those who participate also need to take some responsibility.

Lightor,

It’s possible it’s not an excuse. I’m in software eng. Doodles and on the fly flow charts are made all the time. It’s much easier to follow a complex topic if you have something to point to. Especially when trying to tie together concepts, like interplay between services, timing, DB, APIs, etc.

ggtdbz,

To be fair, I do this at work and while I get funny looks I do get complicated ideas across better when I can provide visual aid.

Frankly I need to improve my MS Paint skills. I need to get my mouse handwriting up to at least 70% of the Khan Academy guy’s level.

cenzorrll,

Pretty sure he uses a wacom

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?

Definitely. Especially if you have large breasts.

SaharaMaleikuhm,

Do I have to be a woman also or are the breasts enough?

Funwayguy,
@Funwayguy@lemmy.world avatar

The latter works better, then you can go full Lily Tino when called out and ‘attacked’ for the obvious BS.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

“If you’re a big fat man, I’m a titty fan, and I’d love to see yours, too!”

Duamerthrax,

Wings of Redemption makes it work… ok. He doesn’t make it work at all.

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s 2025. You can be a big tiddy vtuber no matter what you are in real life.

Coolcoder360,

Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.

janonymous,

There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.

shneancy,

he also cheats in single player puzzle games

of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he “solved” in “hours” took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer

FartMaster69,

It’s funny because it’s not like he’s speed running or anything, he could literally just tell chat he was cheating because the puzzle was too hard and nobody would care.

But he has to keep up his insufferable smarter than everyone image by “solving” puzzles fast.

Newsteinleo,

If you think he is an insufferable know it, you have not met enough insufferable know it alls. He is look warm obnoxious at best.

jonesy,

I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.

Newsteinleo,

Peace of life advice, don’t let other people tell you how to think, form your own opinions based on the things you value and experience.

Thor exist, and so do a lot of people that are a lot worse. He gets at more hate than he deserve when people like Jordan Peterson exist.

Also, you don’t have to watch his videos. You can just ignore him and move on with your life. There are better things to do with your time than to hate someone.

pchela,

There’s a beautiful sentence at the end of every Rare Earth video: Don’t let other people think for you, they can barely think for themselves.

Newsteinleo,

There is some really truth to that.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Oh wow you know so much about this topic and everything else!

Newsteinleo,

All I am saying is that i have met truly insufferable know it alls and he is not one.

Randomgal,

Oh the irony lmao

Newsteinleo,

I am not sure you know meaning of irony

Nangijala,

*lukewarm.

Sorry, I’m not in this fight, but my inner grammar-nazi just couldn’t help herself.

Newsteinleo,

Apology exempted. Just please considered that the person you are correcting may not know English as their first language or by be struggling with dyslexia or some other issue you may know nothing about

Nangijala, (edited )

That’s totally fair. I’m not a native English speaker myself, but some of the English I have learned has been through corrections from friendly souls around the internet so I wanted to pay it forward. I’m not judging or attacking you as I don’t expect anyone to be perfect in any language. Not even their own. Just wanted to help out 🤗

kadaverin0,

I wrote him off as a prick after he practically had a narcissistic meltdown during a stream with a psychiatrist when he was told that he comes off as an arrogant pedant and needs to learn to admit when he’s wrong.

actionjbone, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away

I didn’t play Stardew Valley because YOU made me sign a blood oath that I wouldn’t.

DragonofKnowledge, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

I know it’s not going to happen, but I would love it if legislation could go as far as requiring companies to open-source their engines and servers after maybe a period of time, or on ending support for the game. It could be done ID-style where the company retains full rights of the content and trademarks, which would still require players to buy the game to legally play it.

I’m aware there are a lot of cases where games include middleware that’s licensed from 3rd parties that complicate preservation efforts. But if open-sourcing the code is the path taken, there’s a simple solution for that: just release what you can, even if what’s released is in an unplayable state without the middleware. It then becomes the responsibility of any volunteers to take that code and bring it back to a usable state however they choose.

This drama highlights that there’s still a great need for better computer literacy. Anyone with even a basic education in how software, source-code, and software licensing works can tell PirateSoftware is full of shit pretty much immediately. That is, anyone educated who are themselves not grifters.

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Yessss.

Duamerthrax,

You should only be granted copyright protections if you can guarantee the copyrighted material can become public domain after the time period ends. This would involve giving the government a copy of all source code and assets to preserve securely. This should be a flat policy for all copyrighted material, so 3rd party involvement wouldn’t complicate things.

DragonofKnowledge,

That’s a pretty interesting idea. Unfortunately it depends on being somewhere where copyrights ever actually end.

Duamerthrax,

That’s another debate, but if a company ever closed and no one claimed the IP, it could be released early.

MotoAsh,

The original intent of patents was almost exactly that. You’re protected for a handful of years, after that anyone can just use the patent as instructions for recreating it.

… then Disney and other fucking greedy ghouls of corporations got involved and greased the right palms…

atrielienz, (edited ) do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.

When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.

What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.

Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn’t just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.

electric,

A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.

From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).

*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.

atrielienz,

He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.

electric,

Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.

dustyData,

“Not only I’m not gonna support it, I gonna actively tell people to not support it. Because this is stupid. This is shit. Eat my ass.”

— Thor “PirateSoftware” Hall, on the Stop Killing Games proposal.

atrielienz,

Yes. That clip.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Multiple videos.

He made multiple videos.

echodot,

I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.

I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.

Aielman15, do games w Developer interview: my Q&A with a PC game 'repacker'
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

This is top quality journalism offered for free. We don’t deserve you.

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

Oh gosh you’re way too kind. I wouldn’t call it that, but I am happy to share interesting things here. And I’m so lucky that you all read it and agree with me that it is worth the read!!!

Thank you so much!!!

ipkpjersi,

I definitely agree that this is interesting, this was a great read!

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