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Defaced, do games w It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation

For what it’s worth, Robin Walker and his team are working on the next half life after Alyx. Will that ever come out? I have no idea and I’m not expecting anything. Deadlock however is a game designed by one of the grandfathers of the moba genre, and has had over 20k concurrent players at any given time, and it wasn’t even announced with it’s existence only known through word of mouth. That’s insanely impressive and shows how huge the moba genre really is and how those players are thirsty for a new game from a big company. It sucks and I wish we had more sp valve games but I’m content with the work they’ve done on proton, steamos, the steam deck, steam itself, and half life alyx. They haven’t been sitting on their hands not doing anything, they’ve been putting their focus on more technical areas versus making games and that’s ok.

BradleyUffner,

For what it’s worth, Robin Walker and his team are working on the next half life after Alyx.

Got a source for that? I’m genuinely interested in reading more, but I don’t remember seeing anything about it in my usual places.

Defaced,

eurogamer.net/more-evidence-of-fully-fledged-half…

It’s called HLX, and it’s apparently a traditional non-vr game. Robin Walker was leading the Alyx team, it’s a safe bet he’s leading this team or working with this team on the sequel.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Having HL:A Alyx be VR was super cool. The game was so immersive and for a while afterwards, I was convinced that any furure HL game had to be VR. Then the novelty wore off and the VR market basically is basically dead. Now I’m excited for another flat screen HL game.

Noodle07, do gaming w Android games for girls?

Any Nintendo DS game on an emulator is an option too!

2ugly2live, do gaming w Android games for girls?
@2ugly2live@lemmy.world avatar

Cozy Grove: Camp Spirit (though you need Netflix if you’re playing on your phone which is… Cool). I’ve played this one switch. It’s cute.)

Window Garden: Not caring for pets, but plants.

Bunny Haven (has ads)

Good Pizza, Great Pizza: A pretty cozy looking dinner-dash kind of game.

Neko Atsume: very popular cat collecting game

Kuma Sushi Bar: Cute bear runs a sushi restaurant for other cute critters

I know it’s not exactly what she’s looking for, but I believe they’re all “cozy” and have a “girly/cute” aesthetic.

Whar, do gaming w I don't hate Body Type replacing Gender, I hate laziness
@Whar@beehaw.org avatar

A good option that I think could work could be “fat distribution”, instead of body type.

Selecting chest, abdomen and/or legs would be great for binary and non-binary people depending or their presentation.

HawlSera,

God I’d love to redistribute the fat from my belly to my hips and tits

Whar,
@Whar@beehaw.org avatar

Right? Both traditional genders have a characteristic fat distribution, allowing to customize them independently (sliders!) would be a win-win for binary and non-binary people.

simple, do games w What category is games like Life is Strange and Until Dawn?

CYOA - Choose Your Own Adventure. It’s a genre for interactive stories where you get to make decisions that affects the story. It’s also a tag on Steam

activ8r,

I have found “Choices Matter” also produces good results.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w What category is games like Life is Strange and Until Dawn?

Story/Narrative.

Telltale is the most prolific developer of these kinds of games.

Japan has had elements similar to this in visual novels for a long time. Snatcher, Policenauts, YU-NO, etc. feature the same type of gameplay but without the parts in Life is Strange where you explore in a 3d environment.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Man. I miss Telltale

activ8r,
cafuneandchill, do gaming w Android games for girls?

Itch.io has a bunch of virtual pet games for Android:

itch.io/games/platform-android/tag-virtual-pet

muzzle,

Of course, itch, thank you! How did I forget to look there?

cafuneandchill,

No problemo 👍

MrScottyTay, do games w What category is games like Life is Strange and Until Dawn?

They’re basically an evolution of the point and click adventure. This variation is often just called a narrative game or other similar sounding names. Searching for “games like telltale” should give you a good list.

Telltale were the ones that evolved the point and click into the form it takes now just so you know. Supermassive (until dawn) made their take on the genre feel more cinematic and more like watching a movie with choices but they’re ultimately still using the formula that telltale pioneered.

echodot,

I’m fairly sure years ago that there was a game called alone in the dark that was very similar to this but that was long before telltale. Anything I can remember about it is that it had had fire physics and that every time you started a new level it would load up and say “last time on a loan in the dark” and then give you a tv show style rundown of what you previously done

MrScottyTay,

That was more of a survival horror game

MurrayL, do games w What category is games like Life is Strange and Until Dawn?

It’s called a branching narrative. Most common related Steam tag for finding similar games would probably be ‘choices matter’.

Whar, do gaming w #StopKillingGames Update: Germany becomes 4th county to hit threshold
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Signed and shared to my friends!

Coelacanth, do games w Valve lifts NDA on Deadlock, streaming and talking about the game is now allowed.
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Having the game streamed by all these huge channels before it’s even officially announced is kinda crazy. Everyone wants to play Valve’s “secret game” of course, so it’s free marketing. Pretty clever.

doodledup,

Valve doing their Valve thing.

intensely_human,

So Valve specializes in controlling the rate of release?

inbeesee, do games w It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation

My immediate emotional reaction is to dunk on you. Boo hoo, a company won’t make a game you want. But you’re missing the valve you grew up with, and gaming is worse off now. Multiplayer games with subscription models and microtransactions have become the default, and we all feel it.

For me Deadlock has great characters, lore, new interesting mechanics, and only surface level similarities with DOTA. I’m not upset about it really. Just happy Valve is making anything again. Maybe I’m worn down, but so many big companies take but shits everyday I’m just happy to see one building good shit. (And it’s free!)

fogetaboutit,

So you said “boo hoo” to people that don’t like how microstransactions, subscription models, and the like? You are not upset that the state of gaming in AAA landscape have degraded?

I say to you, “Waaa waaa” then.

inbeesee,

Lol nope, Deadlock has nothing like that in it. It’s an excellent example of what we would ask for in our online multiplayer games.

I am not happy about it, but complaining about Deadlock is spitting on what we should be rewarding imo

deegeese, do games w Valve lifts NDA on Deadlock, streaming and talking about the game is now allowed.

They already reviewed it on The Verge a few weeks ago after the NDA expired.

simple,

Said reviewer actually got permabanned from the game for posting that article

deegeese,

Yeah, was just joking that this isn’t new and Valve were being dicks for enforcing a nonexistent NDA.

dustyData, (edited )

There was a very direct terms of service “Don’t share info”. But The Verge are notoriously awful journalists. It’s like they have no clue of what basic decent journalism entails and confuse good reporting with being trolling assholes. There’s a reason they were the only idiots who broke it and got rightly burned at the stake for it. I bet the guy wasn’t even looking at the screen when he spammed the ESC key at the game. Just because it wasn’t 100 pages of legalese doesn’t mean they weren’t bound by it, clicking ESC instead of the button OK means nothing in legal terms. And just using the software means you agree to the explicit and implicit terms of service that come with the software as long as it isn’t something blatantly illegal. They were assholes and received the consequences of their actions. And that’s that.

deegeese,

LOL defender of the EULA

Glide,

Simplify the situation to lol defending the EULA all you want, but “I’m not bound by your NDA because I pressed ESC instead of clicking okay” is the kind of thing I expect a spoiled 14 year old to say while wearing a shit eating grin.

Act unprofessionally in a professional industry and you get dragged by professionals. And rightly so.

NewNewAccount,

You’re not good at this.

Eggyhead,

So people need to be bound by EULAs that they don’t click to agree?

The guy hit esc to back out and the game launched anyway. Love it or hate it, whoever screwed up, it wasn’t the verge.

dustyData, (edited )

If someone ask you for a ride and you tell them not to roll down the window and they say “lol, nope” and still get on the car. They can’t be mad if you stop the car and tell them to get out when they roll down the window laughing hysterically at your face. Pressing escape means nothing in this case. The Verge’s writer was acting stupid on purpose. This is like kids who think that crossing their fingers behind their back means they aren’t bound to a promise. It is wishful thinking.

Add: oh, and BTW, there’s a reason almost all terms of service start with “By using this software you agree to…” the legal fact is using the service not clicking on the agree button. That’s just legal ammunition that companies use to prove on court that the user was aware of the legal contract. EULAs uset to be sheets of paper on a cardboard box along side CDs. No one had to click on an agree button. By buying and using the software, those were the terms you agreed to. Almost all contracts include that sort of language because the use is the fact that supports the legal contract. Law is just leaving facts and agreements on paper, facts overrule legalese, that is actually the basis used by courts to dismiss enforcement of EULAs. Like how signers aren’t legally bound to fulfill irrational or unachievable agreements, or language intentionally obtuse or ambiguous.

Eggyhead,

To ride this special car, you must agree to not open the windows.

Expectation: No? Okay, then I cannot allow you to ride this special car.

Valve: nope? Okay well get in anyway... Whaaat you opened the windows? Wtf?

Not saying the verge writer was or wasn't behaving like an entitled child. In fact, I'm inclined to think he was, but It's irrelevant. Valve made a goof. (Gasp!)

I could care less what valve does in response. They could blacklist the verge entirely and I probably wouldn't even know. I just wonder if people only care because it's valve.

leftzero,

So people need to be bound by EULAs that they don’t click to agree?

People…? No. And whether they clicked to agree or not should be irrelevant; EULAs should be unenforceable.

Journalists and their employers…? Neither… but then developers don’t have any obligation to provide them with review copies in the future either.

In an industry that depends on mutual goodwill, trust, and agreement, bypassing the implied NDA was completely legal… but profoundly stupid, disingenuous, and unprofessional.

The Verge decided to burn bridges it had probably taken decades to build, for the sake of one single article. It was their right and prerogative to do it, nothing illegal about it, they had no obligation to follow the EULA.

But Valve has no obligation to let them play their invite-only beta either, or to provide them with review copies in the future, and neither has any other developer.

We’ll see how it works out for the Verge in the future.

SkyezOpen,

He hit esc to avoid clicking accept on the nda bit, then bragged about it in the article. There have been other articles about the game, but afaik he’s the only one that was banned for being a smartass.

smeg,

From what I remember there was no NDA but no EULA either. It was a simple “please don’t share anything about this”, the journo ignored it and their account was banned. As far as I’m aware there’s no legal action going on, the Verge have just lost any goodwill they ever had with Valve.

turnerpike20, do games w What category is games like Life is Strange and Until Dawn?

Like the a character will remember that type of thing and thus might actually bring it up or hold it against another character. Like Until Dawn there’s a part where the gun has blanks and if you don’t sacrifice the character the character the character tried to shoot won’t open the door when he needs it. Which yeah that whole scene was unrealistic because blanks can still kill.

Chocrates, do games w Valve lifts NDA on Deadlock, streaming and talking about the game is now allowed.

Deadlock eh, never heard of it. Seems to be a valve Overwatch?

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

No. More a third person Battleborn, actually. Or Dota with guns. It has items, ability leveling, hero leveling, lanes, NPCS, all the MOBA things.

And no, Battleborn never played like Overwatch.

100,

moba things?

pass

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s not for everyone, but it has fit surprisingly well into the Battleborn-shaped hole in my heart.

kautau,

Yeah I’m for new games and hopefully people love it but “hero shooter” and “moba” definitely aren’t categories I’m looking for in new games, the market is flooded with them. Hopefully valve can stand out

InquisitiveApathy,

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  • MentalEdge,
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    Deadlock or Battleborn?

    I’d say yes. But you do have to figure out how to apply the MOBA way of thinking. How to stack the stats of items, abilities and leveling up, into doing a shitload of damage without dying.

    That applied to Battelborn, and it does in Deadlock, too.

    simple,

    It’s dota 2 if it were a very competitive 3rd person shooter. More of a MOBA than a hero shooter, and it’s very complex. Also I’ve been playing it for a month, AMA I guess

    Chocrates,

    Do you like it?

    simple,

    Yup, it’s very fun.

    Fester,

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  • xploit,

    There’s already some toxic muppets getting banned from matchmaking as well as rage quiters…not a whole lot but I have come across them in the week or so that I’ve played.

    There are a few people who do want to coordinate or even use VC, more than the above, but not a whole lot

    cowfodder,

    Ask you anything? Can I have an invite?

    kautau,

    !deadlock

    Somebody posted that community, maybe invites there

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    It is like Overwatch and Leaguen of Legends/Heroes of the Storm had a baby.

    It is a FPS MOBA.

    Codilingus,

    Not an FPS, but a 3rd person shooter.

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    Close enough :P

    drphungky,

    Everyone calling it a shooter MOBA is right, but more basically: It’s Smite. It’s just Smite, but good. I played the Smite 2 alpha and it was very lame, no verticality, gunplay felt bad. Deadlock has an original theme, gunplay feels tight, and there is clearly a huge skill ceiling. I don’t know if it’s 100% yet, which tracks cuz it’s an alpha, but it’s already better than Smite and I have faith they’ll make it better.

    Nosavingthrow,

    I think Overwatch is kind of dog shit and would take that game over Deadlock every time. May as well just skip the shooter and play DOTA.

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