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DashboTreeFrog, do gaming w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division

I honestly didn’t know they had a games division

TeaHands,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure they were on about making a LotR MMO at some point? No idea what else they were up to though.

Send_me_nude_girls,
@Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de avatar

New World MMORPG is made by Amazon

Butterpaderp,

They made Crucible which got some hype, but it flopped hard. For a game that was in development for 6 years, it didnt feel like they playtested it at all.

Jinxyface,

LotR MMO in the works, but they also made New World and Crucible

alphacyberranger, do gaming w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division
@alphacyberranger@lemmy.world avatar

So all of them?

SpaceNoodle,

No, they kept all the middle managers on so they can schedule meetings and give each other raises.

LemmyIsFantastic,

So much snarky hate from baby coders but can you imagine if you had to be a person and pick up the phone and actually talk to your customers. Or actually manage your own time and stay on task?

The horror.

Shalakushka,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

"I know what will help these idiot coders manage their time better: more meaningless meetings with middle managers patting themselves on the back"

LemmyIsFantastic,

I love how you judge them all by stereotype in classic tech bro I know better than you peak form.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Perhaps if you’d get over your density, you’d realise that a lot of developers (myself included) do manage our own time. That take of yours isn’t it. You may want to reconsider.

LemmyIsFantastic,

Yes, the most successful companies are always headed up solely by devs and engineers. Got it 👌.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, my hopes were too high, it seems.

SpaceNoodle,

I’ve probably been coding for longer than you’ve been alive, champ.

LemmyIsFantastic,

👌 champ

tdawg, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

People watch game awards?

GuerillaGorillas,

Only been tuning in these past few years for Elden Ring news, assuming the DLC gets shown I’ll just stick to summaries after.

DrQuint,

Uh… What’s that noise?

leans down

Is… That a bug holding a nail? Why are they so angry at this scenario?

BudgieMania,

People watch the announcements, they put up with the awards

magic_lobster_party,

I would if it wasn’t so unbearably long. Only for the announcements though.

MrScottyTay,

I like watching it. But i like to see the faves I played throughout the year get recognition and hear a little bit from the Devs when they receive the awards. Announcements are a bonus for me. Plus I prefer to watch things fully even if they had already passed rather than just looking up the winners (in the case of the game awards). It would be like being into a sport but just looking up the results the next morning instead. I prefer to watch the full game unknowing of the outcome, and I take that mentality with me with both award shows (that i care about) and even Nintendo directs and it’s counterparts (which admittedly the game awards is half of)

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I was confused by that, too.

Isn’t this like the Steam “awards” were beyond maybe some laughing about how silly the whole procedure is, nobody cares?

Rose, (edited )

The main problem with the Steam awards is that they don’t respect the actual release dates. For example, Red Dead Redemption 2, a 2018 game (or a 2019 game if you go by PC only) was named the Steam GOTY in 2020.

Steam also had little to offer in the years that were heavy on Epic exclusives and great games like Kena or Control, resulting in it being hard to think up a nominee.

Moreover, if I remember correctly, they also bar prior winners from their “most supported game” type category, which makes no sense because some games, like Euro Truck Simulator 2, get regular content and technical updates to this day. On the other hand, The Witcher 3 recently won in a category despite having been untouched for years.

Edit: Fixed a typo.

XTornado,

Yeah the dates thing is an issue but it is because they take the Steam release of the game. That and they take from the last award to the next one not a calendar year. So RD2 was a 2020 game awards on Steam.

But yeah it feels weird I agree.

The most supported one I understand but the idea is to not have the same game every year even if it has been supported plenty otherwise Terraria would still be there…

The Witcher case I do not know… But the issue there is like any public voted stuff people don’t always vote based on category but they vote what they like. Or maybe they only played that game of the category so they vote that one etc… Some places might play with the numbers around behind the curtains and choose another one if it doesn’t make sense… but that also doesn’t feel right.

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Hitman VR won the VR title despite being a bad port to the best of my knowledge. Because people without VR saw it as an option and said that sounds cool then picked it.

a_fine_hound,

According to Wiki, last year’s TGA was watched by over a 100 mil people, so someone does.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

Wasn’t last year’s TGA the one where having the tab open in the background entered you into a drawing for a Steam Deck?

SgtAStrawberry,

Thats definitely one way to raise your viewer numbers.

Annoyed_Crabby, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

To me, it’s The Game Announcements.

bridge_too_close, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath
@bridge_too_close@kbin.social avatar

Last year's TGA was somewhat exciting because they gave away a bunch of Steam Decks. I normally just see the winners posted the next morning, along with any new game trailers.

XTornado,

Christopher Judge did help with that and his 8 minutes speech.

tacotroubles,

Was it only 8 minutes? It felt like 30

XTornado,

7:59 to be exact but yeah… It felt longer.

NightOwl, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

I’ve never watched game awards. I don’t even know if there is even a main one. Watches speeches is boring which is why I don’t watch award shows in general.

Only goty I care about is the goty edition where the game releases with all the DLCs bundled at a discount.

instamat, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

I can’t believe an event created by Geoff Keighly could be generic or average

Tygr, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath

I’m not understanding. As this is the first I’ve ever heard of this, I went to their site and it looks like freebies for games you play and games from other developers.

Did Amazon make their own games? If not, what were these 180 workers doing exactly?

potterpockets,

They made New World and were supposedly working on a LOTR MMO.

drcobaltjedi,

Didn’t New Worlds turn into a ghost town month after launch?

potterpockets,

Yeah it cratered pretty hard, but they have been adding content to the game. Launch was a buggy clusterfuck.

Selmafudd,

I played at launch and yeah the bugs is what drove most people away. They were exploited pretty hard, there was like a 4 or 5 day period there where 3 seperate dupes were discovered and they didn’t do any roll backs

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bought new world, never actually played it, I had tried the beta and said well this seems cool and got it then never played it at launch

LiveLM,

Might wanna get to it eventually before Amazon shuts it down

neshura,

Not entirely well versed in the New World Saga but from what I’ve heard and read here’s roughly what happened:

  • The dev team was developing a hardcore always-on PvP MMO, which is fine but not for everyone
  • Playtest rolls around and the devs get back player numbers you would expect for a hardcore PvP MMO
  • Speculation: the higher ups really don’t like the projected return on their investment given the abysmal (for their ideas) player numbers and force the Studio to pivot to PvE content
  • At this point the entire game has been designed around PvP and the devs now have only ~1 year to somehow shove PvE content in there
  • Launch comes and since the devs had to spend all available time on forcing in PvE content what is present is buggy and doesn’t fit the game mechanics
  • Ensue several months of panicked back and forth patching of the game by the devs, making the entire mess worse because everyone is pissed by one change or another
Zikeji,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

To be fair, a lot of the game breaking launch bugs that hurt the game for me were with PVP (specifically, the instanced wars). I do know there were others but those PVP bugs are what I’ll always remember. The lag, the broken healing, the hatchet exploit, and a few others.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Cuz it was killing gpus

scottywh,

The article has the answers.

Sanctus, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

That didn’t last long

Feathercrown, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath

Amazon has a games division?

konalt,
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

For only $20, the new Amazon Basics Grand Theft Auto.

ChicoSuave,

I would play that.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Had. Briefly.

helloharu, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath
@helloharu@lemmy.world avatar

It is an honest shame, there was a lot of talent brought in, but honestly not surprised it ended this way.

SpaceNoodle,

Talent that was wasted and discarded.

A_Random_Idiot,

Is this your first experience with corporate america?

SpaceNoodle,

No, it was just especially egregious with Amazon in this scenario (and often in general with them …)

They had some promising technology and talent, but focused on what creativity they could cram into the flywheel instead of coming up with something good that could then later feed back into the ecosystem. The latter process can yield surprise successes like the Amazon Echo.

Carighan, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll be honest, I am quite surprised they had 180 workers left there after the continuous stream of tepid stuff they’ve put out over time.

Still, sucks for the people working there, becuase I bet a lot of them at least started really driven and motivated before corporate ground their will down.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Another example of under funded giant corporate projects and then shocked Pikachu that they aren’t wildly profitable. They’ll never understand you can make a wildly profitable game, but it requires investment

Empricorn,

Or just y’know: provide a service, make a profit, provide people with stable jobs, keep on going. I know it sounds crazy, but you don’t have to have all the money…

ChaoticEntropy,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

It does require some actual inspiration as well. Companies are setting up production lines and wondering why solid gold doesn’t just plop out the end when they switch it on.

nezbyte, do games w Luke's Thoughts On A Bunch Of Video Games He Didn't Get To Write About Because He Was Unemployed - Aftermath

I appreciate the short review format and lack of pop-ups on the website.

Disappointing to hear that Bombrush Cyberfunk didn’t live up to the Jet Set Radio expectations. I used to play JSRF all the time on the OG Xbox.

tuckerm,

I think I'll still have to check out Bombrush Cyberfunk -- most other people seem to have liked it. And it's not like anything else is filling that niche right now.

Hadn't heard of Cyber Knights Flashpoint, that one looks fun.

Zahille7,

Don’t let the two-sentence review in the article fool you. It’s basically exactly like JSRF (which was also a huge game in my childhood), and then some. The music has all the same vibes, the movesets and tricks are awesome, the vibrant colorful world reminds me of Tokyo-to to a T.

Do you and your childhood self a favor and check it out!

nezbyte,

Now I’m itching to play JSRF again. Next time Bombshell Cyberfunk goes on sale I’ll pick it up. Seems like it’ll be a great game to play on a steam deck.

Crystal_Shards64,

Play bomb rush cyberfunk. It’s not 100% like JSR or JSRF but it is the closest love letter to the two games we’ve ever seen. It is very good

TommySalami, do gaming w I'm So Tired, Total War: The long-running strategy series is spinning its (chariot) wheels

It is a fair criticism. There is a limited number of historical conflicts/periods with multiple factions, large troop structures, etc. Do they continue to refine past entries or explore more into fiction and mythology? Personally, I’d love to see a more finely polished Medieval, but I think it is more likely that they will follow the Warhammer model and do more licensed products.

DragonTypeWyvern,

I just got around to playing Total War Warhammer I (forgot it was in my library), and I’m ACHING for Total War: Warhammer 40k.

By the God Emperor, they will just print money with that shit if they don’t fuck up a working system like Warhammer 3 apparently did. Imagine all the DLC hero packs.

If it helps, just remember that the Imperial Guard don’t necessarily care if allies are in their line of fire in the first place…

Thcdenton, do games w Grown Adult Coward: 'I'm OK With Just Watching Alan Wake II' - Aftermath

Im just too stingy to pay >60 bucks for a game. I usually watch lets plays of AAA games.

maniel,
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah that’s the thing for me too, I’ll just buy it on sale in a few years, trying to not watch gameplays of games I’m interested in to not break it for me, made that mistake before with Horizon Zero Dawn, watched gameplays, read whole wiki of lore being sure it won’t be available in PC, few months later PC version was announced, bought it on a sale about year later, still had a lot of fun though

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