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  • endeavor,

    Why? Cause irs new game marketed? Theres shit ton of games to play that are better. Even of the same genre. And you could pick up like 10 of them for the price of dark ages. And play them until dark ages is cheap.

    Kraiden,
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  • endeavor,

    Im saying theres tons of non aaa games out there that you can play while you wait for doom the dark ages to be reviewed, fixed and come down in price.

    MITM0,
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    Play Selaco my friend

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  • MITM0,
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    Yeah but if you want an alternative to Doom: TDA, This is a great choice

    User79185, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Meanwhile, DRM-free Doom (2016) is here, it also runs quite good >>> www.gog.com/en/game/doom_2016

    pyre,

    with good music too

    VeganCheesecake, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Earlier this year, I got a game I liked on steam. Pretty much 3d Rimworld. After playing for 20 hours over a few weeks, I sporadically started getting errors about me having “no hardware activations” left for the game, and how I should wait 24 hours. I have never installed it on any other machine.

    It is so very silly that a pirated copy would be the more seamless experience.

    iamdefinitelyoverthirteen,

    What’s the game?

    Piemanding,

    Kenshi is the only 3D Rimworld like game I know and wouldn’t do anything like this.

    halowpeano,

    Probably Alien Dawn, it’s basically a 3D Rimworld clone

    VeganCheesecake,

    Yup, Stranded: Alien Dawn.

    iamdefinitelyoverthirteen,

    Same here, but “3D Rimworld” piqued my interest.

    bitjunkie,

    +1 tell us the title

    VeganCheesecake,

    As someone guessed above - Stranded: Alien Dawn

    gradual,

    It is so very silly that a pirated copy would be the more seamless experience.

    Yes, let’s all accept this reality and stop being useful idiots.

    tacosanonymous, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game
    @tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

    Looks like sailing is back on the menu, boys!

    ElectroLisa,
    @ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    It’s not, newest Doom has Denuvo

    tacosanonymous,
    @tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

    We’ll get it, comrade.

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    Sailing is back on the menu once Empress decides, I guess? Is Empress still the only one cracking Denuvo, or has the Denuvo Cracking scene changed much in the last 5-10 years? I don’t really keep up with it much.

    bassomitron,

    Empress is barely active anymore, if at all. Look at the last few dozen DRM-enabled games released in the last few years and I don’t think a single one was cracked. There was Dragon’s Dogma 2, but it turned out that was just a leaked pre-launch dev build and its performance was awful (because the game has shit performance that was even worse at launch than it is now).

    MITM0,
    @MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

    Why pirate when you can look for alternatives

    Lembot_0002, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]

    Universal release rule: the program is considered released only after it is DRM-free.

    Jax, (edited ) do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Gonna be honest, if Dark Ages represents the future of Doom: Doom died with Eternal. I’ve played probably 75% of the game and it’s enough to turn me off of every future title.

    Edit: Bizarre fucking takes in this thread. How many of you that liked DA played on controller?

    Final edit: liking Dark Ages and disliking Eternal is like preferring lunchables to a NYC slice.

    slumberlust,

    What don’t you like about it?

    Jax, (edited )

    Every single encounter is braindead. There are like 8 true demons. There are 3-4 weapons (the others are worthless), and literally never a reason to use any of them but the impaler and the BFC (which is functionally completely different than the BFG).

    I have not used my brain for any of the encounters. I throw my shield to deal with checks notes 80% of the encounter, spamming parry and impaler headshots to simply annihilate every boss or even remotely threatening enemy.

    The game is fucking boring.

    Edit: this isn’t even discussing the fact that it seems like every encounter is dEfEaT eNeMiEs To BrEaK sHiElD. Very dumbed down sequel to 2016.

    SomethingBurger,

    I’m replaying 2016 right now and it’s the same. There are a handful of enemies, the minor demons are so weak they might as well all be the same. I never use the pistol or Gauss gun. Most weapons are functionally identical, I only switch when I’m out of ammo. When I run low on health, I do a glory kill. Rinse and repeat.

    Eternal has much more variety in its combat, and being more frantic makes it more satisfying to chain kills.

    Jax,

    Yeah, I definitely pissed off the geriatrics/children in this thread - Eternal was peak. 2016 was a good start. Dark Ages is a joke.

    Actually, I’m seeing that it might just be a good controller shooter. Which, of course, means that it is fundamentally furthest from doom as a concept.

    Bad game, went from ‘will buy every ID IP from now on’ to ‘YAAAARRRR’ after 12 chapters. Idk if I’m even going to finish it, I’m probably just gonna go for another Eternal UN run.

    altkey,

    Doom died with Ethernal. Dark Ages is just more of that decline.

    Jax,

    The idea that anyone likes doom 2016 without liking dark ages despite dark ages being more of a gameplay successor to 2016 - genuinely fucking baffling.

    bassomitron,

    Hard disagree. Doom Eternal was a rhythm game disguised as an FPS and I hated it. It’s crazy to me how widely acclaimed it was even over Doom 2016, which I thought was amazing. I’m glad they shifted back towards a more grounded FPS style that doesn’t force you to juggle your entire weapon arsenal nonstop the entire game.

    Regrettable_incident,
    @Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

    I really enjoyed 2016, couldn’t get into Eternal though. I’m definitely going to hold off on this new one until it’s been out longer and goes on sale, unless it gets standing ovations. Then, if I don’t like it I haven’t lost much.

    Luffy879,

    Could you elaborate on the „rythm game“ part?

    I get that eternal was way more saturated and faster, but Rythm?

    bassomitron,

    Have someone that’s even just moderately good at Eternal and then watch their keyboard strokes. It’s a combo-centric game, where you’re constantly juggling weapons and jumping to and fro, and eventually it slides into a “flow.” It’s not literally a rhythm game, but it actually kind of is once you hit that flow. I don’t know how to explain it beyond that; but, it’s not a hot take in the least, as even huge fans of it have agreed with the sentiment.

    icosahedron,

    yeah i love doom eternal and you’re completely right here. i think it’s definitely more noticeable at higher difficulties, but the game absolutely demands a certain rhythm

    aesthelete,

    I played it for just a couple of hours and I understood why you were saying that. It was either dance around like an idiot or make no progress. I didn’t like it and stopped playing it.

    Jax,

    A rhythm game?

    Who did you get that from? Doom Eternal is in no way a rhythm game, weapon swapping was no different from 2016 to DE. The only enemy that ‘requires’ it is the marauder and god forbid you need to switch between two weapons.

    No, better to strip everything that made Doom good - down to the fucking double jump. Bad joke.

    Vanilla_PuddinFudge,
    @Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub avatar

    You’re so wrong it’s almost like the version you played came from another reality.

    Guns and ammo all loop back on eachother forcing you to use everything you have to keep shooting. You can’t stick to one gun for more than a few shots lmao. Either you’re larping and you didn’t get past muraurder and you’re just spitting a youtuber take.

    Jax, (edited )

    guns and ammo all loop back on each other

    First off, it’s a first person shooter. What you’ve said is literally how first person shooters work. Not to mention: if you’re suggesting that I’m larping while trying to suggest you don’t have nigh infinite ammo for every encounter in eternal… idk, I’m gonna laugh at you with my other friends who love doom.

    Second, are you suggesting that you like the fact that you only need to use one out of… how many, 16 weapons?

    Ewww I don’t like the fact that this game… makes me play it and doesn’t just let me autopilot through everything.

    Yes I’m sure that Dark Ages has appeal to kids and old people. I am neither.

    Vanilla_PuddinFudge,
    @Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub avatar

    Infinite ammo? Sure! Chainsaw a guy, more ammo!

    You wanted to keep shooting? Sorry, there’s no more ammo left for what you’ve unlocked, time to punch the chainsaw clock.

    Out of chainsaw? Oh no! Guess you’re stuck with the two guns you hate.

    Your comment speaks like it was played below Easy mode. Some of us actually like the demons to hurt us.

    Jax, (edited )

    Riight

    This will be a very amusing conversation with my friends. Cope harder, dark ages is shit.

    Edit: by the way, it takes 20 seconds to charge one pip of the chainsaw. If you’ve somehow used all of your resources in 20 seconds and the thing isn’t dead; you’re just bad.

    Damage,

    Yeah I called it Doom Doom Revolution.

    Still cool tho

    Jax,

    Rhythm games are consistent every time.

    Pressing buttons sequentially does not a rhythm game make. By your, incorrect, definition — fuckin WoW is a rhythm game.

    Damage,

    Dude, relax the confrontation mode, it’s not Reddit

    Jax,

    No, I will make sure everyone understands that the game they subjectively like is objectively bad. I refuse to back down when people are making very clearly outlandish statements.

    Edit: prove that it’s a rhythm game without using sequential button presses as a metric.

    domi,
    @domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

    If Doom Eternal is a rhythm game, what does that make Metal: Hellsinger aka “Doom but as a rhythm game”?

    store.steampowered.com/app/…/Metal_Hellsinger/

    (really great game btw)

    Duamerthrax,

    Is Dark Ages really more grounded? What the hell does that mean here?

    I had issues with Eternal demanding I use the weapons the way the devs intended, but when I saw parrying was a central part in Dark Ages, it was an easy decision to wait. Icon of Sin was peak because it was chaos management. I managed the Marauders, but just couldn’t be assed to beat the Dark Lord.

    Good thing the indie scene is making their own Doom likes.

    hobbsc,
    @hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    doom past doom 2 never felt like doom anyhow.

    dumblederp,
    @dumblederp@aussie.zone avatar

    Ultimate Doom which was doom2 with harder levels was great fun as well.

    nuko147,
    @nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

    I believe it depends on the player’s personal playstyle. I’ve played Doom 3, Doom 2016, and Doom Eternal. Doom 3 is for fans of horror-focused FPS games, Doom 2016 offers action at a normal pace, and Doom Eternal feels like a high-speed dance.

    I’ll try Dark Ages next year, but I think if they had added even more mechanics than the Eternal had, the game might be more like an RPG than an FPS.

    Jax,

    Dark ages is a dumbed down version of doom 2016. That is the best way I can describe it.

    And, I’m sorry - but doom 3 was just bad.

    nuko147,
    @nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

    Doom 3 was not bad, it was a good game. But it was not Doom, only had the name.

    Jax,

    Which makes it… a bad doom game. …

    You will not revisionist history this game, there is nothing wrong with subjectively liking a bad game but the fact remains: doom 3 was bad.

    nuko147,
    @nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

    a bad doom game

    Thats what i said. Bad Doom game, but good game. BOTW for example is a great game, but not a good Zelda game.

    Jax, (edited )

    BOTW was a good open world game, though - Doom 3 was a cheap attempt at plastering a survival horror skin onto the Doom IP. The level design was bad, the jump scares were cheap - the only thing it had going for it was that it was the first 3d doom.

    MrScottyTay,

    I think they did bring back Doom RPG best phone game ever

    atrielienz, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Was this before or after this: lemmy.world/post/29593011

    Because I’m curious why Valve would have gone to so much trouble to make the game run on Linux just to ruin that.

    Hubi,
    @Hubi@feddit.org avatar

    Well the game runs well if you just launch it with only one Proton configuration and keep playing on that. The issue is changing the Proton version is recognized as multiple installations by the DRM and it locks you out after a couple of tries.

    atrielienz,

    This is what I didn’t understand. Thank you for explaining.

    Treczoks, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Not that I would have bought it - not my type of game - but this game gets on my blacklist.

    Saleh, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Fuck Microsoft. They enshittify everything and they support a genocide by helping to select targets to murder. No game is worth supporting this.

    DeathsEmbrace,

    Microsoft isn’t the only company helping Israel target children and women especially in there favourite location hospitals.

    jsomae,

    How is this response remotely relevant to the comment you’re responding to?

    DeathsEmbrace,

    Youre acting like we should only boycott Microsoft and there games because theyre supporting it but a lot of companies could have stakes in gaming companies and support the genocide its a team effort from NATO to support Israels genocide.

    jsomae,

    Well, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, as they say. Literally anything you buy, there could be a shareholder who is evil. But y’gotta vote with your wallet, and so it makes a bigger impact to boycott companies that are directly involved, rather than ambiguous or strenuous connections.

    gamermanh,

    Youre acting like we should only boycott Microsoft

    The thread is about a Microsoft product, so of course they’re going to discuss Microsoft specifically

    IndustryStandard,

    This is true but Microsoft is the one which made the BDS list for being most responsible.

    faythofdragons, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Man, they’re taking the “dark ages” part seriously.

    Mwa, (edited ) do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    am gonna stick to Classic Doom(including doom 64) ,thanks.

    even tho i didnt play doom 64 for a while.

    +Doesn’t steam have DRM already

    Atherel, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game
    explodicle,
    @explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I remember when their DRM was just telling you that you’d go to HELL if you pirated it.

    Randelung,

    🥺 pwease money?

    rumba,
    burgerpocalyse, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    you aren’t buying doom because it has denuvo. im not buying doom because i am boycotting microsoft products. we are probably a little similar

    Hawk,

    Also it’s $80 fucking dollars for the base edition. Everyone complaining about Nintendo game pricing but Doom gets a pass apparently.

    flop_leash_973, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

    Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.

    BlameTheAntifa,

    If the game comes with Denuvo, never, ever buy it.

    buddascrayon,

    I think the point is that they often eventually remove Denuvo and it becomes a moot point.

    mic_check_one_two,

    Yeah, they pay fees to keep Denuvo in the game. So they only usually use it for the first 6-12 months, (long enough to capture the initial surge of launch sales), and then remove it to stop paying the fees.

    BlameTheAntifa,

    My point is that companies that use it are anti-consumer scum and should be actively boycotted.

    Companies like Sega and Ubisoft never remove it, and in the case of Ghostwire Tokyo, Bethesda added it nearly a year after release, pulling a bait-and-switch on PC gamers that would never have it bought it otherwise.

    These companies demonstrate that will steal your purchase from you whenever they feel like it. They do not deserve anyone’s money, not even 6-12 months later at 90% off.

    If a company uses Denuvo, don’t give them money. Because that’s what you’re doing. You aren’t buying anything, you are just giving them money.

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