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ernest, w To those genuinely interested in moderating
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

Yep, another way is to choose abandoned from the list of magazines, soon it will be more sensibly sorted ;)

https://kbin.social/magazines/abandoned

PugJesus,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

There's a 'jailbait' mag there that should just be deleted.

daredevil,

I've taken care of it. 🙂

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

@daredevil hey how did you get rid of it altogether?

I just noticed we had a "frenworld" (copy of a subreddit that was notoriously racist, antisemitic etc) and requested ownership thinking I could delete it but now it's listed as a magazine I mod and I can't seem to either delete it or detatch myself from it. I don't want it listed under mags I mod! Help!

@Ernest @ernest @PugJesus

PugJesus,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

If memory serves the option is at the very bottom under the first page of the magazine panel.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

@PugJesus you mean the Delete button? I hit that but all it did was change it to a "Restore" button.

I think this means people get "Empty" when they visit @frenworld. But the racist magazine is still listed on my profile as a magazine I moderate, which is the last thing I want.

PugJesus,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Hm. The ones I deleted are removed from my profile.

bluGill,

Seems like names like that should be in a 'if you create the mag you are automatically banned ).

minnieo, w KES 4.0.0 now adds full mbin compatibility
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

💗💗💗

SharkAttak, w /kbin another quick update
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

Good, since the Lemmy recent criticisms we need an alternative way for the fediverse..
Just one question, should we report spam posts?

the_rogue,
@the_rogue@sh.itjust.works avatar

Did i miss somethin ? Which one are you talking about ?

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

Recently there was a request for funds from the Lemmy devs, some answered ok, others hell nah: https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/913126/YSK-Lemmy-has-53k-monthly-active-users-but-only-1172 if you scroll down to Ignacio's comment there's a link with more to it.
tl;dr Lemmy devs are a bunch of tankies and have a rathere rude approach for those asking for more features, even fundamental ones.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I thought Lemmy devs receive funding from a European project thingy.

the_rogue,
@the_rogue@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ok to be fair their politics doesn’t affect lemmy and as for the feature requesting people were entitled assholes and somw guy acted like he was their work slave which pissed the devs of which is complety understandable . apart from that i find the devs fairly pleasant and this is just blatant misinformation spread about them by people who don’t like their political stand . Also no i don’t like russia or china either but i fail to see how it matters on an open source project.

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

Mh, I don't know how but I messed up, the link I was referring to was this. https://docs.beehaw.org/docs/important-questions-decisions-and-reflections/beehaw-lemmy-and-a-vision-of-the-fediverse/ Now I didn't see the posts before, but answering to someone asking for mod tools, (a feature that is fundamental to a social network, like the CP problem brought to light) "well if you don't dont like it thats the door" is not very mature or pleasant.

roastedDeflator, (edited )
@roastedDeflator@kbin.social avatar

@SharkAttak in the link you provided it says stuff like:

There's threads denyng the oppression of Uyghur muslims (...)

Other posts deny that North Korea is oppressive.

I don't understand how these posts are a proof that lemmy has a bunch of devs that are tankies, since there is no link to the problematic threads they mention. If somehow I missed them could you point those out to me?

Also not too sure I understand how this is a topic related to devs and not mods?

cloudless,

Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide sh.itjust.works/post/8419342

cloudless,

web.archive.org/…/fuck_the_white_supremacist_redd…

parentis_shotgun is the main Lemmy dev, also the admin of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml

roastedDeflator,
@roastedDeflator@kbin.social avatar

@cloudless thank you for those links, now I understand.

Gordon_Freeman, w If you're encountering the Subscribed 404 error, this is a good time to revisit Collections
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

https://kbin.social/sub/newest

now shows the 404 and that's the url that I use by default, because I prefer newest to go first

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

The ?p=1 workaround works with that too for me
https://kbin.social/sub/newest?p=1

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

cool, thanks

exscape, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
@exscape@kbin.social avatar

Honestly, no. Kbin has been barely usable for a long time and I'm starting to consider giving up.
I have a notification waiting for me, but I get a 404 on the page to check it out. /sub also didn't work yesterday. I spent a few minutes trying to edit a comment just an hour ago.

Nothing against Ernest, a page of this size is hard to manage alone or almost alone, but it's still a pain as a user.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I have a notification waiting for me, but I get a 404 on the page to check it out.

Append ?p=1 at the end of the URL; that sometimes fixes it.

Next, relax.

MelodiousFunk, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?

Try adding


<span style="color:#323232;">?p=1
</span>

To the end of the URL. This was a useful workaround a few months ago when things went pear-shaped for awhile.

MelodiousFunk,
@MelodiousFunk@kbin.social avatar

This still works... though kbin still doesn't render the code block correctly it seems.

?p=1

basically tells the site to load page 1 of whatever sort is selected. You can also do p=2 for page 2, etc.

Pamasich, (edited )

though kbin still doesn't render the code block correctly it seems

Yeah, I hope ernest (or someone else) fixes it soon. Mbin has fixed it, so it should be possible to check there how it was done.

I did make a frontend fix for it which is included in KES and available standalone on Greasyfork. But it would be much preferable if this was fixed in kbin itself.

I think the big problem is that the issue on codeberg is closed. Ernest never got involved, but other maintainers closed it as a "lemmy issue" which it isn't. Lemmy is federating completely legal HTML with escaping applied to spec and kbin should be able to understand it. Mbin can understand it.

520, w Since no upvotes are possible, the 'Hot' and 'New' pages of Kbin should show the same content. That's kinda awesome

What are you talking about? Upvotes are plenty possible on kbin.

BarbecueCowboy,

Maybe technically and in general sometimes, but not for most at the moment.

Dymonika, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?

I can't even upvote comments; it moves to an "error"-showing webpage entirely. EDIT: Okay, now I can, but just a moment ago it wasn't working, repeatedly...

eveninghere, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I mean, he’s developing and administrating what’s essentially a Reddit clone all on his own.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I mean, he’s developing and administrating what’s essentially a Reddit clone all on his own.

And doing a damn fine job.

The question was if you saw similarity in the pressure to add maintainers to the project with the social engineering that lead to xz getting backdoored.

eveninghere,

And he’s burning out. And more maintainers would be even better.

Yes, it’s similar, but every one-man project with real-world use is similar in that regard.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

And he’s burning out.

I have seen no evidence of that. Also not the point of this thread.

HeartyBeast,
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

I’m not going to pick through his last year’s posts and make a diagnosis, but if you’ve seen no evidence of that, I think you’re wilfully ignoring the signs.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I’m not going to pick through his last year’s posts and make a diagnosis, but if you’ve seen no evidence of that, I think you’re wilfully ignoring the signs.

Ok, I'll continue "ignoring" evidence you can't even describe ("He talked somewhere about..."), much less cite.

For all we know his frequent absence is down to a great work-life balance on his part.

Irrespective this thread is not about who is or is not burnt out, it's about how posts like your are what enabled the xz backdoor to happen.

HeartyBeast, (edited )
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

Irrespective this thread is not about who is or is not burnt out, it's about how posts like your are what enabled the xz backdoor to happen.

I thin you need to chill a bit. Open source has a long illustrious history of people cooperating to build software and submit patches and enhancements which are then scrutinized by project leads. Yes, occasionally bad actors use this model to try and slip through exploits, but you don't throw out one of the strengths of open source because of that. You make sure mechanisms are in palce to allow robust scrutiny.

And no, I'm absolutely not going go through someone's post history and quote bits that show someone is frazzled. I expect you to have enough empathy

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I thin you need to chill a bit.

I'm not the one calling people willfully ignorant about things a thread isn't even about.

one of the strengths of open source because of that.

I don't think being a jerk is a strength

eveninghere,

I used it as a support to my argument, so, it’s relevant. No evidence, you say… I don’t want to talk too much about someone’s health issue. Just believe what you believe. I don’t think you can change your view through online discussion.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I used it as a support to my argument

What argument? I'm not sure what you position is.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

No, he's not. Kbin was recently down for a week. Then voting and comment counts broke. Before all that I had to get into the habit of reloading the page I was on every time I wanted to vote on something. It's a terrible user experience.

That's not to say I don't like him or he's not a good dev or whatever. Just that people have limits and it sure seems like he's bumping against his.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I think Ernest is doing a fine job. [shrug] Especially when you consider none of us are being charged to be here.

Could we please stop talking about if Ernest is burning out though? That was never the question of this thread.

The question was if the comments reminded you of the social engineering that engendered the xz backdoor.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

I didn't say anything about burning out. A job can be too big or difficult for a person without them burning out.

Ultimately, it's just a question of results. If kbin.social is working poorly but other alternatives are doing good, I move on. That works well in the Fediverse especially, as evidenced that I am commenting from fedia.io.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I didn't say anything about burning out.

Fairplay, but that then's two step removed from what this thread is about.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Likewise I also moved on from Kbin. Obviously we have no power over that project, that belongs solely to the person who created it, but we do control our own actions. e.g. I used to sing the praises of the Fediverse and go out of my way to not equate it with Lemmy - always saying like Lemmy/Kbin. Now I still do the former but I actively tell people that Kbin might not be a good match for them. Ernest has kept it as alpha version software - which is fine, there is a need for such things, and it will become great, someday… hopefully. But today is not that day, and that is super good for people to know, e.g. that they don’t have to leave the Fediverse entirely to get a more functional experience, just Kbin.social.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

fedia.io is running mbin, which is a fork of kbin. It seems to be doing well, so you could switch to Lemmy/mbin if you don't want to include kbin any more but still want to show alternate clients are possible.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Thank you for the suggestion. So far I’ve just taken to saying “Fediverse”, perhaps I’m holding out hope for still more clients in the future:-)? Also it’s shorter than Lemmy/Kbin/Mbin:-).

Canard,

I saw the term "threadiverse" being used to group all Reddit alternatives interoperable with the Fediverse.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I saw the term "threadiverse" being used to group all Reddit alternatives interoperable with the Fediverse.

Yeah, but Meta's fucked up the application of anything containing "thread".

ProdigalFrog,
@ProdigalFrog@kbin.social avatar

Piefed also looks promising.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Exactly! More and more products can be added - like now we are hearing about Fedi-wikis (from the original Lemmy developer iirc), and ofc there will be Threads (whether we dread it or not!), so the Fediverse (iirc, defined basically as anything that uses the ActivityPub protocol?) is growing up, spurred onwards by the ongoing demise of Reddit even if started long before. :-)

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Piefed also looks promising.

That one interoperable with Mastodon like Kbin is?

ProdigalFrog,
@ProdigalFrog@kbin.social avatar

It appears focused on being compatible with lemmy, but I haven't asked the dev what their plans are for mastodon integration.

They do have an interesting image-viewing mode though, which is pretty cool. :)

sab,
@sab@kbin.social avatar

Nope, and it doesn't seem to be on the agenda either. Kbin/Mbin is still the only platform(s) to try to bridge the two.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Kbin/Mbin is still the only platform(s) to try to bridge the two.

Moreover it seems to have better discoverability than mastodon Mastodon. I can type a word or phrase in the search bar on kbin and find "Mastodon" posts whereas I'm stuck viewing whatever is timeline trending on Mastodon proper unless I follow someone or can figure out whatever hashtag person might have affixed to their post.

Even with kbin being down a good 1/5 of the time it remains the best ActivityPub viewing experience (in my).

ImADifferentBird,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

He is doing an excellent job, and I do not mean to denigrate his work when I say the task is beyond any one person, no matter how talented and dedicated. Look at the issues that went on recently while Ernest was indisposed, and we had months of federation issues that led to communities migrating away and Kbin.social getting defederated by other instances.

This project is getting too large for any one person, and it’s far too important to have one point of failure. And even someone as great as Ernest needs an understudy.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

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  • ImADifferentBird,
    @ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    The existence of one bad actor doesn’t make the principle any less true.

    Kbin has long since surpassed what Ernest is capable of handling by himself. Either he’s going to have to learn to delegate, or it’s going to collapse under its own weight.

    rhythmisaprancer, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
    @rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

    Same also. It made the PWA broken when I tried using it earlier. Maybe change my default view on the browser now. No other problems!

    originalucifer, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    what is it supposed to show?

    Facni,

    It used to show threads and posts from your subscriptions.

    originalucifer,
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    hey look at that! it works on my instance. not sure whats goin on over there. bad nginx route/config.

    maybe theyre upgrading something

    livus, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
    @livus@kbin.social avatar

    Me too.

    jwr1, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
    @jwr1@kbin.earth avatar

    kbin.social is also showing 404 for me at /sub. https://kbin.social/*/sub still seems to be working though.

    static, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
    @static@kbin.social avatar

    xz was successful because it was believable, but a malicious actor would more likely target libraries that are depended on by many, like xz.

    Facni, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

    I realize that a magazine I made isn't available through lemmy.world and lemmy.ml and some communities from there aren't available here. Does someone know why?

    livus,
    @livus@kbin.social avatar

    Normally if nobody from an instance has subscribed it doesn't show up in searches from that instance. You have to manually type the exact url and subscribe that way. Once one person has done it, it will show up.

    Facni,

    I tried, but it doesn't work. Is this something that will change in the future?

    ghostatnoon,
    @ghostatnoon@kbin.social avatar

    I've had it take up to a week for a community to show up after I've searched for it.

    Pamasich,

    To newly federate a magazine with Lemmy, search for it using the syntax !Polytopia@kbin.social in Lemmy's built-in search. This worked for me instantly when I just tested it on lemm.ee, after confirming that it 404s before doing it.

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