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cai, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

This is an absurd thread. By collecting together critical comments, and picking back up a loud fight that previously died down over a week ago, you are absolutely adding to any pressure towards our lad in charge.

Touch grass

FfaerieOxide,
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Touch grass

Suck ya mudda

celeste, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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I typed a reply about how bad actors will use reasonable arguments to get their way, so we'd need genuine evidence

my comment didn't send properly tho and i got an error message, so if you see me commenting twice, sorry

the_crotch, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

Ernest Adds More Maintainers to Kbin is one of my favorite 80s comedies

HubertManne, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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its open source. it can and has been forked. he can do what he likes. The call for moderation made sense but code is different. Granted I think he should bring in help for himself but that is for him to decide.

Pamasich, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it. But people saying he should get more help are trying to help him, not having malicious plans like installing backdoors or whatever.

I do think people should ask less for more maintainers — the project is already opensource, so it's up to maintainers to join, not him to seek them out. But he should still get some help with managing the instance. Pauses in development are fine imo, but the instance shouldn't be swarmed with spam and account deletion requests lost in limbo just because ernest got sick or something, which can happen with the best work life balances.

FfaerieOxide,
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I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it.

Someone pressured the maintainer of a compression tool used in a bunch of open source software to hand over the keys by citing burnout and offering to "help" then spent ~3 years slowly adding tiny changes that combined to form a backdoor in SSH that nearly compromised the entire internet or something.

It was only barely caught by accident because it made some thing some guy was doing that wasn't even related a fraction of a second slower.

Been all over the FOSSiverse for days, and the social engineering that was used on the xz maintainer reminded me personally of similar pressure certain people have applied to Ernest in most threads about kbin performance I have seen.

FaceDeer,
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The reason it worked is because sometimes burnout is a real problem, and getting extra help is a real solution. The fact that this was exploited in one situation doesn't mean that all of a sudden there isn't any real burnout or genuine offers to help any more.

A project can sometimes benefit from help even if there is no burnout. People have limits.

tiredofsametab, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I switched away because kbin seemed stuck and unresponsive to users and uncommunicative. Changes that were made seemed to be ones the Ernest wanted to and not addressing issues that people were feeling in some cases.

I am a software developer for a living and I can tell you that you can both have more people contributing and be secure. Most projects do not have bad actors who successfully poison things. When someone does, they get caught in the review process. If this is your concern, then prove that Ernest himself isn't a bad actor? I don't believe he is, but being one person in control would certainly make that easy.

roguetrick, w So I really am the cancer on this platform
Auster, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

Oh, so that must be why quite a few of the magazines I follow more consistently started appearing empty. Thanks for addressing it, op!

MrKaplan,
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for a magazine to show up on lemmy, a logged-in user needs to visit it first. afterwards, to ensure that new content is published to lemmy instances, someone from that instance needs to subscribe to the magazine. this needs to happen on every instance as far as i know. this is one of the reasons services like lemmy-federate.com or browse.feddit.de exist.

Auster,

The magazines I follow, they worked before, so I don't think this would apply.

fiat_lux, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

I have now been banned from cat@lemmy.world :( I haven't attempted to post or comment today anywhere except now. I've only liked posts today, so that narrows down the actions required to trigger the problem. I liked 4 posts over the last 24 hours in that community.

Hope that helps someone narrow down replication steps for the problem.

MrKaplan,
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it is indeed mostly like related activities we’re seeing

roguetrick,

Thanks for the work in keeping us federated with you guys.

CharlesReed, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

Oof, that sucks, especially since a good chunk of my subs are to lemmy.world instances. I hope this gets sorted out soon.

roguetrick, w So I really am the cancer on this platform
roguetrick,

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity

Looks like they're doing a lot of dam plugging right now, I think we may get defederated temporarily if this keeps up

roguetrick,

Well, now @PugJesus @ivanafterall and @tjhart85 got community bans so at least I'm in good company.

livus,
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Looks like it's affecting at least a dozen people now.

eveninghere, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

I got this ban when I took shower every 1 msec.

roguetrick,

Gotta stay clean.

rhythmisaprancer, w /kbin next March update
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I am definitely not qualified for instance level moderation, but may be for a magazine. Is that part of what you are looking for? I did put a request in for one a ways back, but perhaps am not qualified for that, either. It would be a good step i think. But I don't know. I can go thru the abandoned list again.

diotima, w /kbin next March update
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@ernest Best of luck and get well soon.

Facni, w /kbin next March update

Thanks @ernest for your amazing work

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